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 their  is  a  pipe  coming  fom  the  top  part  of  this  cavity..enlarge  this  hole    and  let  the  pipeof  the  filter  pass  through  it  n  take  it  to  the  other  side  of  the  wall.
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nash  wrote:                
the  tank  size  that  i  have  decided  on  is  
 6.9=length  
 2.6=width  
 2.5=height(as  suggested  by  mr  kelkar)  
 and  the  glass  i  would  be  ordering  19mm  of  normal  glass.                

 Nash,
 Good  you  have  decided  to  reduce  the  height  to  2.5".  It  seems  my  post  has  put  some  light  in  your  project.
 You  need  not  use  19mm  thick  glass  and  unnessary  spend  more,  you  can  use  15mm  glass.  It  should  be  fine.
 In  the  images  posted  by  you  I  cant  see  any  provision  for  fixing  the  glass.
 Why  dont  you  build  a  all  glass  tank  in  put  it  in  the  cavity.
 Since  you  are  reducing  the  height  it  would  be  advisible  to  build  a  stand  for  the  tank  and  put  your  filter  at  the  botton.
 Second  option  could  be  building  a  filter  on  the  top  of  the  aquarium.
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nash  wrote:                
their  is  a  pipe  coming  fom  the  top  part  of  this  cavity..enlarge  this  hole    and  let  the  pipeof  the  filter  pass  through  it  n  take  it  to  the  other  side  of  the  wall.                

 
 This  does  not  answer  my  question.  How  do  you  propose  to  Prime  your  Eheim  2260  Filter?
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 all  side  glass    would  end  up  being  more  expensive.and  the  look  of  the  marine  wood  being  used  is  more  appealing  to  th  eye.so  i  rather  stick  to  one  side  glass.
 
 now  could  someone  tell  me  as  to    how  much  marine  ply  would  i  be  needing  so  that  i  could  place  an  order..
 about  the  filter  through  everyone  suggestion  i  could  find  a  place  for  it  without  any  problem.
 everyone  is  invited  to  this    topic.i  see    just  the  experts  handling  this  topic..
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 if    you  do  have  a  look  at  the  first  pic  in  this  topic..you  would  find  that  their  is  a  window  to  the  right  of  this  aquarium.so  i  would  place  the  ehim  2260  bhind  the  cavity    somewhere  near  the  window(behind  the  window).
 
 1)madanji  now  could  you  please  tell  me  as  to  how  much  marine  ply  would  i  need  and  as  to  what  mm??
 2)  abt    the  filter  mr  bansal  did  recommend  the  resun(capacity  of  1500  lit)  instead  of  the  ehim  2260.
 3)what  all  fishes  should  i  go  for  with  this  height.i  am  also  planning  an  arrowana  for  sure...
 4)can  i  increase  the  height???(an  upto  what  considering  all  fixtures)
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nash  wrote:                
if    you  do  have  a  look  at  the  first  pic  in  this  topic..you  would  find  that  their  is  a  window  to  the  right  of  this  aquarium.so  i  would  place  the  ehim  2260  bhind  the  cavity    somewhere  near  the  window(behind  the  window).                

 
 I  have  no  problems  where  ever  you  keep  the  filter  and  whatever  arrangements  you  will  make.  In  the  event  of  a  power  shutdown  and  the  filter  is  above  the  tank  level,  all  the  water  will  drain  back  into  the  tank.  The  filter  will  not  start  again.  What  will  you  do  then?????????
 
 
                                                 
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 1)madanji  now  could  you  please  tell  me  as  to  how  much  marine  ply  would  i  need  and  as  to  what  mm??                

 
 Get  a  carpenter  and  show  him  the  article.  He  will  be  able  to  tell  you  how  much  plywood  you  need  if  you  are  in  so  much  of  a  hurry.
 
 
                                                 
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 2)  abt    the  filter  mr  bansal  did  recommend  the  resun(capacity  of  1500  lit)  instead  of  the  ehim  2260.                

 
 Use  any  filter,  unless  you  address  the  problem  I  have  mentioned  it's  of  no  use.
 
 
                                                 
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 3)what  all  fishes  should  i  go  for  with  this  height.i  am  also  planning  an  arrowana  for  sure...                

 
 That  depends  on  your  pocket.  First  get  a  working  tank,  atleast  on  paper.
 
 
                                                 
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 4)can  i  increase  the  height???(an  upto  what  considering  all  fixtures)                

 
 I  personally  would  not  make  a  tank  higher  than  21  inches  in  the  space  there  and  I'd  place  the  filter  in  a  cabinet  below  the  tank.
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 Avinash  i  would  go  with  madan...cleaning  a  high  tank  is  always  a  problem  and  placing  the  filter  below  the  aquarium  always  works  as  the  filters  work  on  gravity.
 Would  give  it  to  someone  who  is  more  experienced  in  handling  such  a  big  project.
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 thank  u  guys  for  all    your  suggestions.  Thumb Up    Thumb Up  i  have  made  up  my  mind  and  i  would  be  placing  the  filter  below  the  aquarium  in  a  cabinet.
 i  would  be  calling  my  carpenter    tommorow  and  get  the  wood  borrowed.
 
 1)Madanji  could  you  tell  me  as  to    what  mm  of  ply  should  i  use.
 2)secondly  i  hav  not  understood  your  article  very  well.
 so  the  carpenter  reading  it  is  out  of  question(eng  issues)
 so  if  you  dont  mind  if  we  could  go  step  by  step  on  this  project..it  would  be    very  nice.
 
 i  would  keep  you  updated    on  this  project  through  pics..
 about  experts  doing  this    project  i  believe  it  is  a  DIY  project.(what  is  the  motive  behind  taking  help  from  iah  community)
 Thank  u!!!!
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 Dear  Nash,
 We  certainly  appreciate  the  spirit  of  DIY.  However  DIY  does  not  mean  error  and  trial.  One  must  study  the  project  on  paper  completely.  Visuslize  it  and  then  only  order  the  first  nail,  especially  when  you  are  executing  a  project  for  someone  else.  Once  again  DIY  is  not  "error  and  trial".  You  are  not  ready  to  do  the  necessary  homework  beforehand.  You  did  not  appreciate  the  fundamental  issue  of  priming  put  forward  by  Madan.  Making  a  plywood  aquarium  is  not  as  simple  as  ordering  marine  ply  and  finding  a  carpenter  on  daily  wages.  PLEASE  do  not  be  in  a  hurry.  Do  a  detailed  planning  and  visualisation  of  the  entire  engineering  aspect  of  the  project  before  you  lift  your  finger.  A  DIY  project  executed  hastily  certainly  lands  in  failure  and  kills  the  DIY  spirit.  I  am  not  trying  to  discourage  you.  However  we  all  will  be  eager  to  see  that  you  succeed  in  your  endavour.  
 All  that  I  understand  at  the  moment  is  you  want  to  do  a  bare  bottom  tank  to  fit  into  the  niche  shown  in  the  picture  and  the  tank  is  likely  to  hold  big  fellas.
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 Avinash,
 
 What  carpenter  tomorrow?  You  cannot  understand  my  article  with  pictures,  what  will  you  explain  to  the  carpenter  about  plywood  aquarium.
 
 Do  you  know  the  height  of  the  filter?  Do  you  know  if  the  shutoff  valves  etc.,  project  by  how  many  inches  above  the  filter?  Do  you  know  which  filter  you  will  be  using?  Have  you  seen  such  a  filter?
 
 How  much  above  the  floor  will  the  base  of  the  stand  be  fixed?
 
 How  much  clearance  above  the  tank  will  you  need  to  push  your  body  in  for  maintenance?
 
 IAH  is  all  fine,  but  unless  you  start  thinking  practically  we  will  not  be  able  to  help.
 
 The  whole  thing  will  be  a  mess.  
 
 Do  some  research,  look  around  for  some  one  with  the  filters  you  plan  to  install,  measure  them.  Now  that  the  filter  is  to  be  below  the  cabinet,  design  a  stand.
 
 Since  the  tank  height  will  be  in  the  region  of  21  inches,  plywood  aquarium  is  simply  not  worth  the  trouble  nor  will  it  be  economical.  Make  an  all  glass  aquarium,  or  order  one.
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 Hi  Avinash  as  you  know  i  have  the  eehim  2260  filter  at  home  and  you  welcome  to  come  measure  it...priming  this  filter  is  very  difficult  though.
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Hi  Avinash  as  you  know  i  have  the  eehim  2260  filter  at  home  and  you  welcome  to  come  measure  it...priming  this  filter  is  very  difficult  though.                

 
 That  means  it  will  require  additional  clearance  below  the  aquarium  to  manage  the  priming  issue,  unless  toomanyfish  trains  you  how  to  best  do  it.
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 I  see  a  pit  where  the  tank  is  to  be  placed.  Is  this  pit  going  to  be  covered  to  the  floor  level  of  the  rest  of  the  structure?
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Avinash,
 
 
 Since  the  tank  height  will  be  in  the  region  of  21  inches,  plywood  aquarium  is  simply  not  worth  the  trouble  nor  will  it  be  economical.  Make  an  all  glass  aquarium,  or  order  one.                

 
 Nash
 The  right  thing  would  be  to  go  in  for  an  all  glass  aquarium.  Plywood  and  fibreglass  with  one  side  glass  are  not  worth  the  trouble  and  risk  unless  it  is  for  a  very  large  or  inpractiable  size  and  you  do  not  get  the  glass  size  in  this  country.  
 As  for  the  looks  you  should  be  the  best  judge.  Have  you  spoken  to  the  owners  in  confidence  about  the  advantages/disadvantages  or  seen  with  your  eyes  any  of  the  similar  tanks  that  you  want  or  plan  to  replicate.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

                                                   
nash  wrote:                
i  would  be  calling  my  carpenter    tommorow  and  get  the  wood  borrowed.
 
 1)Madanji  could  you  tell  me  as  to    what  mm  of  ply  should  i  use.
 2)secondly  i  hav  not  understood  your  article  very  well.
 so  the  carpenter  reading  it  is  out  of  question(eng  issues)
 
 i  would  keep  you  updated    on  this  project  through  pics..
 about  experts  doing  this    project  i  believe  it  is  a  DIY  project.(what  is  the  motive  behind  taking  help  from  iah  community)
 Thank  u!!!!                

 
 Appreciate  the  spirit  &  enthusiasm  of  yours.
 First  time  DIY  project  should  not  be  experimented  with  client  assignments.
 
 Hope  your  carpenter  understands  what  exactly  needs  to  done.  Cuz  I  had  nasty  experience  where  I  explained  to  my  carpenter,  a  rack  for  3  tanks  to  be  prepared  with  the  help  of  drawing.  And  still,  this  idiot  arrived  with  rack  for  2  tanks.  ROFL      
 
 Well,  best  luck  for  your  project  &  keep  us  posted.  Thumb Up
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