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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Bringing  Whiteworms  for  Mumbai  Hobbiests  for  now.  Smile                

 
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 You  are  welcome  PIO.  Smile
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 Thanks  Very Happy  Will  collect  it  from  you  tomorrow.
 
 So  a  8"*8"*2"  transparent  plastic  container  with  holes  drilled  in  the  cover  for  aeration.  A  scotchbrite  in  an  inch  of  water  in  the  container.  That's  the  medium,  correct?  Around  three  of  these  setups  will  be  ready  today.  
 As  for  feeding,  crushing  Quaker  oates  in  water  to  make  a  paste,  and  feed  it  twice  a  day?
 
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 u  don't  need  to  feed  twice  a  day,  no.  But  u  might  decide  to  do  that  or  something  else,  based  on  your  own  experience  and  conditions  in  your  fish  house.  For  now,  daily  water  changes  with  a  60  ml  syringe  (minus  the  needle)  and  once  daily  addition  of  just  enough  ground  oats  to  make  the  water  milky,  is  what  i  do.  
 
 By  trial  and  error,  i  have  refined  the  technique  over  3  years,  but  experienced  fishkeepers  could  always  tweak  my  system  and  see  if  it  works  better  for  them.  
 
 These  are  a  native  species  of  tubifex,  found  in  Delhi.  The  write-ups  on  microfex  in  the  US  used  by  veteran  fishkeepers  are  fed  on  fish  fillet  and  whatnot,  while  i  have  found  these  to  do  very  well  on  vegetarian  cuisine!  ha  ha.  Tubifex  species  are  many,  and  only  scientists  can  tel  them  apart.  These  are  amazingly  adaptable,  and  even  grow  as  much  as  3.5  inches  each  (the  size  of  the  large  tubifex  that  were  once  sold  in  fish  shops  all  over  but  have  disappeared  in  Delhi  now)  if  u  keep  them  in  aquariums  and  they  escape  being  eaten  up  by  fish  by  digging  into  the  gravel.  
 
 Thanks  for  digging  the  old  threads  up!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Saw  the  threads.   Surprised  
 
 I  am  looking  for  one  that  i  made  on  micro  tubifex  Duro  worms  myself,  that  included  urls  of  photos  on  flikr,  and  even  a  youtube  video.  the  video  was  awful,  but  the  pics  were  good.
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 The  scotchbrite  pad  is  to  help  increase  the  surface  area  that  is  exposed  to  the  worms  for  them  to  latch  onto.  the  worms  use  it  as  a  refuge  and  many  clumps  of  them  can  disappear  inside  it,  to  reappear  later.  this,  i  feel,  helps  them  thrive  because  like  many  worms,  they  have  a  high  preception  of  danger.  They  can  'pulsate'  in  fright  at  times,  the  panic  will  spread  in  a  frisson  across  the  sheet  of  worms  stuck  to  the  plastic  wallls  or  sponge....  very  interesting.   
 
 the  scothcbrite  also  helps  to  maintain  a  colony  of  benificial  bacteria,  which  i  believe,  actually  maintains  some  kind  of  nitrogen  cycle.  A  good  culture  box  does  not  smell  just  like  an  established  tank  will  not,  only  badly  maintained  or  new  tanks  will.  
 
 u  should  'respect'  the  old  sponge  and  not  suddenly  take  it  out  and  change  it  with  a  brand  new  one.  when  u  want  to  start  a  new  sponge,  leave  it  in  with  the  old  sponge  so  that  the  worms  themselves  colonise  it.  
 
 if  u  see  a  film  of  slime  appear  in  the  boxes,  it  is  a  bad  sign.  quickly  think  of  starting  a  new  box,  and  if  u  already  have  a  second  one,  harvest  the  worms  in  the  slimy  box.  Then  clean  and  dry  the  sponge  and  start  over  again.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:19 am Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Thanks  Romi  for  all  those  info.  Seems  like  one  of  my  culture  box  is  slimy.  That  tells  me  to  change  the  water.  (  thats  actually  the  box  with  cocoa  peat.  What  should  I  do?
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 Micro  tubifex  is  fairly  interesting  ,  will  be  following  this  thread  !
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 Romi  thats  some  great  info  you  have  given.
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 Good  stuff  Deepak...Will  want  to  give  it  a  try  some  time!
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Good  stuff  Deepak...Will  want  to  give  it  a  try  some  time!                

 
 Sure  Vyas.
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Romi  thats  some  great  info  you  have  given.                

 
 Thanks  Ram.  Hope  your  lovely  bettas  get  a  nice  surpize  from  you  one  of  these  days  Very Happy  
 
 
 Deepak,  if  it  is  slimy  already,  carefully  change  the  water  and  see  if  u  are  overfeeding.  cut  the  rations  but  keep  a  close  eye.  Throw  oatmeal  straight  on  a  clump,  then  spray  water  on  it  with  a  spray  gun  to  make  sure  it  gets  wet.   I  would  suggest  u  be  even  more  careful  now,  because  i  dont  know  if  u  started  two  boxes  from  the  start  like  i  suggested,  or  not.  Can  you  see  the  worms  in  the  cocopeat?  Are  they  turning  parts  of  the  cocopeat  red?  keep  feeding  the  cocopeat  worms  with  a  light  sprinkling  of  oatmeal  powder,  but  if  u  overfeed  there,  the  fungus  can  attack  cocopeat  too.  
 
 Also,  please  copy  paste  all  the  instructions  i  sent  you  by  email  to  prepare  you  for  the  worms  before  i  actually  sent  them,  and  post  them  here.  It  will  save  me  the  effort  needed  to  repeat  all  that.  
 
 Buy  the  60  ml  syringe,  it  really  helps.  cost  me  just  23  bucks  here,  minus  the  needle.  these  intitial  water  changes  are  crucial  or  the  watery  fungus  will  win.  
 
 Remember,  no  clorinated  water,  or  any  water  than  has  fertilizers  of  any  kind  (as  in  discarded  planted  aquarium  water).  i  use  water  from  a  tank  that  is  never  fertizlied  with  micronutrients  and  gets  only  fish  poo...worms  great.  i  feel  it  helps  in  the  worm  box  cycling  also.
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Saw  the  threads.   Surprised  
 
 I  am  looking  for  one  that  i  made  on  micro  tubifex  Duro  worms  myself,  that  included  urls  of  photos  on  flikr,  and  even  a  youtube  video.  the  video  was  awful,  but  the  pics  were  good.                

 Romi,  Checked  the  complete  Fishfood  sub-forum.  You  have  started  only  one  thread  and  that  link  I  have  given  earlier.  Have  you  posted  those  pics  and  videos  in  some  other  Sub-forum  or  someone  else's  thread?
 
 BTW,  What  is  Cocopeat  for?  Tryout  medium?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Saw  the  threads.   Surprised  
 
 I  am  looking  for  one  that  i  made  on  micro  tubifex  Duro  worms  myself,  that  included  urls  of  photos  on  flikr,  and  even  a  youtube  video.  the  video  was  awful,  but  the  pics  were  good.                

 Romi,  Checked  the  complete  Fishfood  sub-forum.  You  have  started  only  one  thread  and  that  link  I  have  given  earlier.  Have  you  posted  those  pics  and  videos  in  some  other  Sub-forum  or  someone  else's  thread?
 
 BTW,  What  is  Cocopeat  for?  Tryout  medium?
 
 Regards,                

 Nayakjee  
 Romi  sent  me  the  culture  in  cocoapeat  to  retain  moisture.  I  took  out  as  much  worms  as  i  can.  But  their  are  still  plenty  of  them  wiggling  in  the  peat
 Roy  posted  earlier  about  his  grindals  got  infested  by  dero  worms.  Now  both  are  competing  for  food  in  the  same  culture  box.  It  seems  they  can  be  kept  in  moist  peat  too.


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 OOps  ....  Tripple  post...  Crying or Very sad  My  mobile  some  time  play  funny.
 
 Any  ways  what  I  did  was..  I  immediately  pour  water  in  it,  as  it  was  all  dried  up.  On  arrival  I  couldn't  see  a  single  worm.  They  were  all  inside  the  scotchbrite.  So  I  waited  for  an  Hour..  Crying or Very sad  Then  I  saw  a  single  worm  wiggling  like  hell  in  one  corner  of  the  box.  Chuckle  I  sms  ed  Romi  with  joy  that...  I  just  saw  a  worm.  :cheer:
 
 I  Immediately  add  some  oat  water  in  the  culture  and  crossed  my  all  my  fingers.  :grin:
 
 And  next  day  I  saw  a  few  more  wiggling  here  and  their.  I  was  so  happy.  My  Preciousssssssss......  I  felt  like  gollum  from  (LORD  OF  THE  RING).  :grin:
 
 Next  morning  it  was  all  smelly  so  I  changed  100%  water  and  add  oats,  and  in  the  evening  I  saw  three  worm  balls.


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 Ok  the  rules  are..
 *Never  change  more  then  70%  water.  Use  only  dechlorinated  water.
 *Feed  the  oats  crushed  in  water.  This  is  what  I  know  as  of  now.
 *  do  not  move  or  disturb  the  culture  box  unless  its  really  important.
 *  Add  a  scotchbrite  for  them  to  hide  and  lay  eggs.
 *  use  a  syringe  to  take  out  water.
 *  u  can  change  more  water  if  you  use  fish  tank  water  as  Romi  suggested.
 *  change  water  as  you  find  it  smelly.
 *
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 *
 Right  now  these  are  in  my  mind.  Smile


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