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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Hi  Deepak,
 
 Possible  to  get  a  culture  of  these?
 
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 Possible  to  get  a  culture  of  these?
 
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 Sure  Nikhil.  Pakka..  Thumbs Up
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Deepakg  and  Romi,
 
 The  medium  scotch  brite  from  the  culture  given  to  me  by  deepakg  is  floating  since  yesterday  night.  And  the  worms  are  forming  a  ball  away  from  the  scotch  brite.  Any  particular  reason?
 
 Regards,                

 
 This  could  be  due  to  several  reasons.  check:
 
 1.  Did  you  do  the  daily  water  change  of  70%  with  healthy  water  (no  additives,  not  even  those  in  an  aquarium)?
 
 2.  Did  you  add  too  much  of  oatmeal  milk  considering  the  quantity  of  mini  tubifex  (using  that  name  now,  for  this  indian  species)?
 
 3.  As  deepak  said,  is  there  slime  developing  in  the  Scotchbrite  pad  unknown  to  you?  take  the  pad  out  and  take  a  look.  
 
 cheers!                

 Bingo!  Point  #2  seems  the  most  valid.  Will  reduce  the  volume  of  Oat  milk  added.  Absolutely  no  slime  and  water  change  of  50%  twice  a  day,  with  aged  water  from  tanks  into  which  no  additives  have  been  added.
 
 The  worms  added  to  the  new  cultures  are  well.  They  are  in  single  strands(Not  balled  up)  and  are  hiding  in  the  medium.  Most  probably  because  of  less  quantity  of  worms.
 
 Now  a  new  question,  The  Coco  peat  is  bubbling  if  disturbed.  Is  it  natural,  and  will  it  affect  the  worm  culture?
 
 Thanks  for  all  the  help  in  advance.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:20 am Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Deepakg  and  Romi,
 
 The  medium  scotch  brite  from  the  culture  given  to  me  by  deepakg  is  floating  since  yesterday  night.  And  the  worms  are  forming  a  ball  away  from  the  scotch  brite.  Any  particular  reason?
 
 Regards,                

 
 This  could  be  due  to  several  reasons.  check:
 
 1.  Did  you  do  the  daily  water  change  of  70%  with  healthy  water  (no  additives,  not  even  those  in  an  aquarium)?
 
 2.  Did  you  add  too  much  of  oatmeal  milk  considering  the  quantity  of  mini  tubifex  (using  that  name  now,  for  this  indian  species)?
 
 3.  As  deepak  said,  is  there  slime  developing  in  the  Scotchbrite  pad  unknown  to  you?  take  the  pad  out  and  take  a  look.  
 
 cheers!                

 Bingo!  Point  #2  seems  the  most  valid.  Will  reduce  the  volume  of  Oat  milk  added.  Absolutely  no  slime  and  water  change  of  50%  twice  a  day,  with  aged  water  from  tanks  into  which  no  additives  have  been  added.
 
 The  worms  added  to  the  new  cultures  are  well.  They  are  in  single  strands(Not  balled  up)  and  are  hiding  in  the  medium.  Most  probably  because  of  less  quantity  of  worms.
 
 Now  a  new  question,  The  Coco  peat  is  bubbling  if  disturbed.  Is  it  natural,  and  will  it  affect  the  worm  culture?
 
 Thanks  for  all  the  help  in  advance.
 
 Regards,                

 Oh!  I  think  thats  gases  coming  out  of  decaying  peat.  That  might  be  because  its  watery.  Try  making  another  culture  with  just  moist  peat.  Or  take  out  water  from  that  culture.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Picked  up  a  culture  from  Nayak  today..Lemme  see  how  this  turns  up
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 cocopeat  takes  ages  to  decompose,  so  it  can't  be  that.  
 
 deepak  is  right  in  that  you  need  to  reduce  the  water.  the  cocopeat  culture  should  be  'wet'  and  not  flooded.  please  expose  parts  of  the  box  bottom  completely  so  that  the  worms  can  eat  the  food  direct  from  the  plastic  if  they  want  to.  They  often  choose  to  do  that.  
 
 you  could  be  overfeeding  the  cocopeat  also.  The  bubbling  is  most  like  excess  food  that  is  decomposing  and  is  too  much  to  be  flushed  out  with  each  water  change.  Maybe  i  forgot  to  emhasise  or  forgot  to  mention  at  all  in  this  thread,  the  cocopeat  culture  does  not  need  'oatmeal  milk',  it  needs  oatmeal  powder  to  be  sprinkled  where  the  red  worms  show,  or  in  general,  at  random,  evenly,  all  over  the  cocopeat.  u  also  have  the  option  of  stpraying  it  with  a  spray  gun  if  u  feel  the  oatmeal  powder  does  not  get  wet  soon  enough.  
 
 anyone  who  takes  a  culture  from  deepak  must  promise  to  upload  pictures  here.  This  will  be  to  encouage  more  people  to  take  mini  tubifex  up.  
 
 Rasik,  can  you  change  the  title  of  the  thread  as  suggested?  Thanks.   
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Yes..+1  Romi,
 post  pictures..  Cheering
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 The  worms  forming  balls  separate  from  the  medium.  But  on  closer  observations  there  are  worms  in  the  media  too.  Have  they  completely  colonised  the  media  and  hence  for  lack  of  space  forming  balls  elsewhere?
 
 The  two  new  cultures  are  doing  fine  too.  
 
 The  base  media  with  Coco  peat.  Planning  to  start  another  one  since  this  seems  most  stable.
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Mini Tubifex species from Delhi. Culturing method. Reply with quote

 Clapping   Clapping  
 
 sir  how  much  time  did  the  culture  above  take  to  colonize  (  above  picture  )  from  the  day  you  started.
 
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 The  above  cultures  are  from  Deepag.
 
 I  have  started  my  new  cultures  from  7-Sep-2012.  I  will  post  their  pictures  tonight.  I  think  Deepak  will  answer  when  he  started  his  culture.  Once  he  is  back  in  Bangalore  I  will  be  giving  the  above  cultures  back  to  him.  Very Happy  
 
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 @rasik,  
 
 i  think  the  worms  never  colonise  the  scothcbrite  till  there  is  no  space  and  neither  are  they  ever  in  balls  only.  They  are  all  over,  and  this  might  have  to  do  with  their  reproductive  needs.  After  i  sent  deepak  most  of  mine,  i  had  just  a  few  dozen  stuck  to  the  walls  of  the  plastic  container.  Since  they  can  choose  any  place  at  all  in  the  culture  to  make  a  breeding  group,  i  knew  i  just  needed  to  feed  on  time  and  do  the  water  changes  to  get  them  back.  They  came  back  in  as  large  a  number  as  when  deepak  was  sent  his  culture.  So  the  secret  is  to  not  disturb  them  too  much,  just  do  the  feeding  and  water  change,  and  harvest.  
 
 Do  not  attempt  to  'clean'  a  container  or  replace  an  old  one  because  you  dont  like  how  it  looks,  unless  it  crashes.  Wipe  the  lid  clean  if  u  want  wifey  to  like  it  more.   Chuckle  If  u  want  another  container,  smaller  because  you  need  to  take  it  away  ,or  larger  because  you  want  more  live  food,  start  a  FRESH  one  from  the  established  container.
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 Balls  are  best  because  you  can  just  pick  one  up,  using  a  small  plastic  spoon,  and  rub  it  inbetween  your  fingertips  when  u  dip  your  fingers  in  the  water.  The  worms  will  scatter  and  attempt  to  swim  away,  and  your  natives  will  DEVOUR  and  enjoy  themselves  very  much  in  the  process.  
 
 i  wait  for  balls,  and  feed  balls  only.  the  scotchbrite  is  just  the  penthouse  i  leave  alone.
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 Hey  Romi,  will  pick  up  some  from  you.  Will  be  in  Delhi,  November  21-22.  Btw,  don't  like  the  name  Microfex.  Coin  a  better  name  please.
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 Thanks  Nayak  jee.  
 I  will  take  a  few  worm  balls  as  starter.  In  the  meantime.  Check  below  link  for  a  perfect  home  for  culture.
 This  was  sent  by  Romi.I  forgot  to  share.  How  about  a  group  purchase?
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 Deepak,  
 
 Those  are  available  in  Bangalore.  I  think  I  saw  them  at  Metro.  Will  check  and  revert.
 
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