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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 hi,  
 recently  many  of  my  plants  leafs  have  started  curling  towards  the  ends  even  fairly  new  ones.  tank  specs  are  as  under
 
 dimensions  :  24*12*15h
 co2  :  DIY  (2  bot)
 Substrate  :   red  soil  topped  by  coarse  sand
 lighting  :  36  W  PLL  +  14  W  T5
 fertlizer  :  liquid(dont  know  details  manufactured  by  a  LFS  in  mumbai)
   
 can  anyone  tell  me  what  the  problem  is.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 Ya  maaaaan  it  is  very  different,  I  saw  this  first  time.  Arent  they  suppose  to  grow  towards  light?,  may  be  your  ferts  are  wrong.  Are  you  sure  CO2  is  working  properly.  Infact  when  I  brought  those  amazons  they  were  curly  and  now  they  are  straight  and  up.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 Low  levels  of  CO2.
 Deficiency  of  Potassium.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:49 am Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 looks  like  Zinc  deficiency.  
 
 This  article  might  help..
 
 Aquatic  Plant  nutrients  explained
 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 I  would  never  dose  something  in  my  tank  if  I  do  not  know  its  composition.  Smile  
 Start  dosing  with  a  fertilizer  whose  components  are  known.
 In  addition  to  leafs  curling,  they  are  also  signs  of  green  algae  and  black  fuzz  algae.
 What  is  your  water  change  frequency.
 In  a  low  tech  tank  it  is  difficult  to  have  a  micro  deficiency,  a  proper  fertilizer  routine  will  help.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 50  %  water  changes  weekly,  CO2  is  good  have  kept  two  DIY  bottles,  Fertilizer  is  from  Affable  aquarium  in  mumbai.  they  are  into  this  for  a  very  very  long  time.  the  plants  are  looking  healthy  except  for  curling  towards  the  ends(red  Boxes).  have  a  bit  of  Blue  green  algae  and  green  spot  algae  problem  thats  it.  for  others  i  have  siamese  algae  eaters.  had  a  lot  of  help  from  NEXUS.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 a  few  close  ups
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 This  looks  like  Calcium  deficiency.......   You  can  find  more  details  Here
 
    Try  adding  some  borewell  water,  if  your  water  is  too  soft.  Could  CaC03  (  Calcium  Carbonate  )  be  added  to  help,  I  wonder  ?!  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 How  old  is  this  tank,  what  is  your  water  source.
 It  is  a  nutrient  issue  without  any  doubt,  however  in  absence  of  information  on  dosing  in  the  tank  it  is  can  be  guesswork  only.
 Is  the  problem  visible  in  new  leaves,  old  leaves  or  all  leaves.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 Hi
 
 Problem  is  with  root  feeder  plants.  I  dont  see  any  issue  with  liquid  fert.  I  am  using  the  same  fert  by  affable  aquarium  in  my  14  gallons  with  great  results.  
 
 You  have  red  soil  topped  with  coarse  sand  as  substrate.  Red  soil  provides  basic  nutrients  but  sand  is  neutral  substrate.  By  the  pic  it  seems   substrate  is  2  inches  thick  .  I  derive  that  red  sand  is  only  1  inches  thick.  If  tank  is  old  enough  that  most  probably  nutrients  are  consumed  by  now  and  time  to  change  substrate.  Dont  use  coarse  sand  this  time  as  it  adds  no  value  to  tank  .  Use  laterite  +  red  soil  or  any  branded  substrate.
 
 Black  algae  is  typical  result  of  DIY  Co2.  Yeast  Co2  supply  is  always  irregular  and  leads  to  black  algae.  Since  you  are  in  Mumbai,  pls  visit  Nautilus  .  Bandra  and  buy  Azoo  Carbon  plus.  In  longer  run  it  will  be  more  economical  then  yeast  CO2.
 
 What  filteration  you  use.  Cardinal  is  not  showing  its  true  colors  and  seems  stressed.  For  a  cycled  tank  30  -40%  water  change  is  the  norm.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 thanks  for  the  replies,  the  substrate  i  have  is  red  soil  topped  by  golden  sand,  it  contains  lot  of  shells,  have  added  a  few  big  literate  stones,  which  should  leach  iron.  Is  there  any  fertilizers  that  can  be  added  to  substrate  directly.  The  fishes  are  neon  tetra's  not  cardinals
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:55 am Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 Iron  deficiency  doesnt  cause  leaf  curl.  Try  root  tabs  available  at  Nautilus  or  Aquanature  Borivali.  Root  tabs  supply  nutrients  thru  roots  to  plant.  They  are  recommended  when  substrate  quality  has  depleted.
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 hmmmm  .......so  you  are  about  to  remove  golden  soil  I  suppose......if  you  throw  it  away  please  call  me  i'll  wait  below  the  window  Smile  .  And  BTW  if  you  are  buying  laterite  tell  me  from  where  you  got  it,  I  want  that  too.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: help needed - leaf curling towards ends Reply with quote

 Sorry  if  the  name's  not  proper,  ┬áthat's  what  the  vendor  told  me  regarding  the  sand.  I  did  a  60-70  %  water  change(tap  water)  today,  added  the  liquid  fertilizers  and  ceramic  rings  to  the  overhead  filter.  ┬áCan  blue  green  algae  cause  leafs  to  curl,  as  i  was  planning  to  do  an  antibiotic  treatment  for  the  same.  can  anybody  suggest  the  proper  technique  -  will  teramycin  do  the  job.  asking  because  my  vals,  bacopa,  dwarf  chain  grass  are  not  having  any  damage  on  them.  same  with  banana  plant.
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