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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

 Start  it  garbhai  start  it....
 Less  money  you  have  to  spend   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

                                                   
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Start  it  garbhai  start  it....
 Less  money  you  have  to  spend   Chuckle                

 
 Believe  me  I  scared  s..t  to  add  any  chemicals  now.  After  all  the  loses  I  have  gone  thru,  I  now  want  to  go  simple.
 
 But  is  glut  cheaper  than  DIY  CO2?  I  like  DIY  co2  it  keeps  me  busy  some  times  ROFL
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

                                                   
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@Ganesh,  
 I've  never  heard  Glut  killing  snails.  This  is  new.  :o
 
 @Emmanuel
 Thanks.  Yes  I  'll  follow  the  Azoo  dosing.                

 
 Yes,  It  kills  my  snails.  it  might  happen  some  times...  Always  drop  the  liquid  in  aeration  place.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

                                                   
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Dose  it  on  a  lower  range  first,  and  see  what  it  does,  But  I  dont  think  it  will  affect  the  shrimps  as  yet.  Why  dont  you  first  check  it  with  your  bucket  plants/shrimps  and  then  go  for  the  tank  dosing?
 
 Hey  Ganeesa  where  did  you  get  assassin  snails,  can  you  get  me  just  1  please  Smile                

 
 Last  time  we  went  to  Dhava  Bzar  while  returning  back,  i  went  to  Nautilas,  there  I  bought  a  pair.   Very Happy   I  lost  the  pair.  Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

 Ooooo  Nautilus?  huh?  ok  great,  I'll  give  them  a  visit  somewhere  this  week.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

 Using  a  25%  solution  is  very  risky,  it  is  highly  toxic,  even  the  fumes  are  very  harmful.
 Normally  we  use  a  approx  1.5%  solution  of  gluteraldehyde,  it  is  more  manageable  at  this  concentration.
 And  it  kills  snails  so  be  careful  with  invertebrates  in  your  tank
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

 @Sandeep
 
 The  current  recipe  is  36  ml  Glut  to  be  mixed  with  564  ml  water  for  a  total  600  ml  solution.  This  already  dilutes  the  concentration.
 
 So  are  you  suggesting  that  we  increase  the  water  it  has  to  be  mixed  with  to  reduce  the  concentration  further  ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

                                                   
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Thanks  Guys
 
 After  doing  the  calculations  for  my  tank  and  comparing  with  Azoo  the  difference  is  almost  3  times  at  the  initial  dose.  See  pic  of  grid.
 
 
 
 I  think  I'll  have  to  start  low  and  monitor
 
 On  shrimps  while  the  company  Azoo  says  not  to  over  dose  Liquid  Carbon  Plus  on  the  bottle,
 nothing  was  mentioned  on  the  bottle  about  it  affecting  shrimps  until  I  wrote  to  them  and  they  said  that  it  will  affect  shrimps.  But  Nautilus  has  tested  this  and  says  as  long  as  you  follow  the  recommended  dose  it  does  not  affect  shrimps
 
 I've  got  both  RCS  and  Indian  Rainbow  Shrimps  in  my  2  feet  nano                

 
 Pio  where  you  get  this  Calculator  pls  update...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

 Im  not  sure  what  the  question  and  confusion  is  about  Pio  and  Percy.  
 
 Pio  :  You  dont  dose  25%  Glut  directly  !!  Its  harmful  as  hell.  This  needs  to  be  diluted  first  by  adding  40ml  to  500ml  water  to  get  around  1.5  -  2  %  solution  which  is  similar  to  Excel/Azoo  Carbon  .  Cidex  aready  comes  pre  diluted  to  2.5  %  which  you  can  dilute  a  bit  more  SAFELY  and  use  saving  you  from  the  dangers  of  concentrated  25%  DANGEROUS  Glut.....
 
 
 Percy  :  I  am  not  able  to  understand  your  question  but  the  Glut  I  gave  you  is  already  prediluted  to  the  right  %  and  you  can  start  using  it  directly  and  supplementing  your  DIY  CO2
 
 
 Glut  Dosing  :  5ml  per  50  liters  after  water  change  and  1ml  per  50  liters  daily  dose.  You  can  safely  double  this  in  my  experience
 
 
 WARNING  :  You  may  save  a  few  hundred  rupees  by  diluting  glut  Glutaraldehyde  at  home  in  what  some  of  you  people  THINK  is  a  safe  manner  (on  the  terrace  !!  under  a  fan  !!)  but  you  guys  are  dead  wrong.  Literally.
 Those  few  hundred  rupees  are  nothing  compared  to  the  lakhs  that  lung  disease  and  cancer  will  cause  you  not  to  mention  possibly  loss  of  life  and  other  less  than  pleasant  effects.
 
 Please  either  buy  branded  stuff  that  becomes  reasonable  if  you  buy  the  big  bottles  OR  if  yo  simply  must  then  buy  pre  diluted  glut  under  the  brand  name  CIDEX  which  comes  pre  diluted  and  is  safer  and  can  also  be  pre  duluted  further  for  some  savings.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

                                                   
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Im  not  sure  what  the  question  and  confusion  is  about  Pio  and  Percy.  
 
 Pio  :  You  dont  dose  25%  Glut  directly  !!  Its  harmful  as  hell.  This  needs  to  be  diluted  first  by  adding  40ml  to  500ml  water  to  get  around  1.5  -  2  %  solution  which  is  similar  to  Excel/Azoo  Carbon  .  Cidex  aready  comes  pre  diluted  to  2.5  %  which  you  can  dilute  a  bit  more  SAFELY  and  use  saving  you  from  the  dangers  of  concentrated  25%  DANGEROUS  Glut.....
 
 
 Percy  :  I  am  not  able  to  understand  your  question  but  the  Glut  I  gave  you  is  already  prediluted  to  the  right  %  and  you  can  start  using  it  directly  and  supplementing  your  DIY  CO2
 
 
 Glut  Dosing  :  5ml  per  50  liters  after  water  change  and  1ml  per  50  liters  daily  dose.  You  can  safely  double  this  in  my  experience
 
 
 WARNING  :  You  may  save  a  few  hundred  rupees  by  diluting  glut  Glutaraldehyde  at  home  in  what  some  of  you  people  THINK  is  a  safe  manner  (on  the  terrace  !!  under  a  fan  !!)  but  you  guys  are  dead  wrong.  Literally.
 Those  few  hundred  rupees  are  nothing  compared  to  the  lakhs  that  lung  disease  and  cancer  will  cause  you  not  to  mention  possibly  loss  of  life  and  other  less  than  pleasant  effects.
 
 Please  either  buy  branded  stuff  that  becomes  reasonable  if  you  buy  the  big  bottles  OR  if  yo  simply  must  then  buy  pre  diluted  glut  under  the  brand  name  CIDEX  which  comes  pre  diluted  and  is  safer  and  can  also  be  pre  duluted  further  for  some  savings.                

 
 
 
 Thanks  Mortis,  I  was  asking  if  I  should  directly  use.  So  now  I  understand  that  I  have  to  add  a  drop  only  to  my  14  gallon  tank.  Thumb Up
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 No  no  not  a  drop  !!  6ml  on  the  day  you  do  waterchange  and  then  1.5ml  daily   Thumb Up
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 @  Maaz
 See  Nidhis  first  post  for  the  calculator  online.  My  calculations  on  dosing  are  based  on  the  instructions  on  the  Azoo  bottle  I  have  and  using  that  online  calculator
 
 @Nirant
 No  confusion.  Yes  I  know  you  don't  have  to  dose  the  25%  directly  as  it  is  concentrated  and  I  mentioned  that  in  my  first  post  that  this  25%  Glut  has  to  be  diluted  in  water.  40ml  in  500ml  water.  What  I  wanted  to  understand  is  the  dosing.  Which  I  will  follow  after  doing  all  those  calculations  by  following  my  old  Azoo  dosing  regime.
 
 You  mentioned  that  CIDEX  is  prediluted  Glut  of  2.5%.  How  much  more  do  you  dilute  this  further  ?
 
 Lets  see  if  we  can  return  this  back  to  Amrutlal  and  hunt  again  for  Cidex.  
 
 @Percy  
 What  you  think  ?  Or  I'll  have  to  use  a  gas  mask  from  the  chemist.
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Im  not  sure  what  the  question  and  confusion  is  about  Pio  and  Percy.  
 
 Pio  :  You  dont  dose  25%  Glut  directly  !!  Its  harmful  as  hell.  This  needs  to  be  diluted  first  by  adding  40ml  to  500ml  water  to  get  around  1.5  -  2  %  solution  which  is  similar  to  Excel/Azoo  Carbon  .  Cidex  aready  comes  pre  diluted  to  2.5  %  which  you  can  dilute  a  bit  more  SAFELY  and  use  saving  you  from  the  dangers  of  concentrated  25%  DANGEROUS  Glut.....
 
 
 Percy  :  I  am  not  able  to  understand  your  question  but  the  Glut  I  gave  you  is  already  prediluted  to  the  right  %  and  you  can  start  using  it  directly  and  supplementing  your  DIY  CO2
 
 
 Glut  Dosing  :  5ml  per  50  liters  after  water  change  and  1ml  per  50  liters  daily  dose.  You  can  safely  double  this  in  my  experience
 
 
 WARNING  :  You  may  save  a  few  hundred  rupees  by  diluting  glut  Glutaraldehyde  at  home  in  what  some  of  you  people  THINK  is  a  safe  manner  (on  the  terrace  !!  under  a  fan  !!)  but  you  guys  are  dead  wrong.  Literally.
 Those  few  hundred  rupees  are  nothing  compared  to  the  lakhs  that  lung  disease  and  cancer  will  cause  you  not  to  mention  possibly  loss  of  life  and  other  less  than  pleasant  effects.
 
 Please  either  buy  branded  stuff  that  becomes  reasonable  if  you  buy  the  big  bottles  OR  if  yo  simply  must  then  buy  pre  diluted  glut  under  the  brand  name  CIDEX  which  comes  pre  diluted  and  is  safer  and  can  also  be  pre  duluted  further  for  some  savings.                

 
 
 so  can  you  tell  us  where  to  source  the  CIDEX
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

                                                   
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 so  can  you  tell  us  where  to  source  the  CIDEX                

 
 
 What  if  CIDEX  gets  out  of  stock?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Glutaraldehyde Dosing Solution Reply with quote

 i  have  one  excel  file  with  me  which  i  made  of  calculating  gult  for  according  to  these  size  of  tank...but  i  dont  know  how  to  attached  that  here...
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