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akudewan Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: Upside down goldfish |
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Hi,
My friend's goldfish is upside down. It seems to be breathing normally and is also eating food. What could be wrong? |
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pandian Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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what abt.its fins are they ok or damaged.........
this seem to be some thing diff.
this can be also result of swiming blader disease.....
and is that fish always like that (up side down) or just occasonally it is so.... |
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sandeepraghuvanshi Moderator

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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Upside down goldfish |
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akudewan wrote:
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Hi,
My friend's goldfish is upside down. It seems to be breathing normally and is also eating food. What could be wrong?
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Fancy goldfish often have swimbladder problems, this is even more so when they are fed only dry food.
Seperate the fish,Lower the water level, use salt, feed peas. If problem does not go use medication for internal parasites. |
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akudewan Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. I'll ask him for more details later, he's currently not at home.
This guy keeps his goldies in a bowl, I'm trying to convince him to setup a larger tank. The most amazing thing is that his goldfish were alive in the bowl for more than 1 year !! |
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sandeepraghuvanshi Moderator

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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: |
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akudewan wrote:
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Thanks for the replies. I'll ask him for more details later, he's currently not at home.
This guy keeps his goldies in a bowl, I'm trying to convince him to setup a larger tank. The most amazing thing is that his goldfish were alive in the bowl for more than 1 year !!
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No wonder this fish is upside down. It is a envoirnmental problem. Unless & untill the fish is taken out it will not improve.
If your friend does not change his bowl, request him to atleast keep a betta, molly, guppy. infact anything other than a goldfish.
Tell him that goldfish bowls have been banned in number of countries like Rome etc. |
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shishirkamat Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hold the fish upside down in your left hand and gradually move your finger on her belly, this works like a miracle.Feed the fish with vegetable matter for a week,boiled green peas and blanched Palak will help the fish to recover.
With Regards
Shishir Kamat |
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akudewan Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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shishirkamat wrote:
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Hi,
Hold the fish upside down in your left hand and gradually move your finger on her belly, this works like a miracle.Feed the fish with vegetable matter for a week,boiled green peas and blanched Palak will help the fish to recover.
With Regards
Shishir Kamat
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Well, this would probably remove the slime coat from the belly, but considering the fish's condition, its worth a try.
I saw the fish today. The fins look allright, but the tail is a bit frayed. Will be setting up the tank in a couple of days hopefully. My friend has seen my planted tank, (and other planted tanks on the net) and has gone nuts over grass/moss/riccia. The only thing that can probably go with a goldfish is grass, since they will rip out moss and riccia.
So what substrate should we use? Sand or pebbles? There were a couple of times a pebble got stuck in his black moor's mouth, and he had to remove it with forceps. Considering that, would sand be a wiser option ? |
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Madan Admin

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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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akudewan wrote:
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shishirkamat wrote:
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Hi,
Hold the fish upside down in your left hand and gradually move your finger on her belly, this works like a miracle.Feed the fish with vegetable matter for a week,boiled green peas and blanched Palak will help the fish to recover.
With Regards
Shishir Kamat
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Well, this would probably remove the slime coat from the belly, but considering the fish's condition, its worth a try.
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Use wet hands, soaking wet is better, to avoid any damage to the fish and minimise slime coat loss. |
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aquascapes Committed Member of IAH

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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to mention something unbelievable here!
I have a client who has a tank 6' size divided exactly at the middle so 3' sized tanks each - one side houses goldfish and the other side is a community tank.
Inspite of all objections he went ahead and bought an actinic blue tubelight which he uses in combination of a hitachi.
Our observation is that when-ever he switches the actinic blue light one of his most priced and prized orandas will turn upside down for no reason - I did not believe this when I was told of this but, saw it myself when I specially visited his place - this is indeed a strange phenomenon which I still don't understand - any guess? |
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akudewan Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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aquascapes wrote:
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I would like to mention something unbelievable here!
I have a client who has a tank 6' size divided exactly at the middle so 3' sized tanks each - one side houses goldfish and the other side is a community tank.
Inspite of all objections he went ahead and bought an actinic blue tubelight which he uses in combination of a hitachi.
Our observation is that when-ever he switches the actinic blue light one of his most priced and prized orandas will turn upside down for no reason - I did not believe this when I was told of this but, saw it myself when I specially visited his place - this is indeed a strange phenomenon which I still don't understand - any guess?
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Whats the colour of his substrate? The light is probably confusing the fish. Very strange though. Only one oranda does this, and not the others ? |
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aquascapes Committed Member of IAH

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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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the substrate is a mixed coloured pebbles of about 1cm. diameter - it does not reflect light as it is of mixed colour and the tank is 2' high!
Yes, only one fish does this and remains upside down for two-three days even after switching off the lights! - It is indeed unbelievable. But, true! |
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akudewan Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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This might just be coincidence, but my friend also uses a blue bulb. Its a normal 5-watt bulb |
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sandeepraghuvanshi Moderator

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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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A very vauge idea but it might be possible that light might be affecting the navigation abilities of the fish, or might be a disco dancer  |
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This might just be coincidence, but my friend also uses a blue bulb. Its a normal 5-watt bulb
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To fix the problem - I advised the client to keep the oranda on fresh and frozen green stuff and to switch off the actinic light - it worked!
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light might be affecting the navigation abilities of the fish, or might be a disco dancer
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