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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: Upside down goldfish Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 My  friend's  goldfish  is  upside  down.  It  seems  to  be  breathing  normally  and  is  also  eating  food.  What  could  be  wrong?
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 what  abt.its  fins  are  they  ok  or  damaged.........
 
 this  seem  to  be  some  thing  diff.
 
 this  can  be  also  result  of  swiming  blader  disease.....
 
 and  is  that  fish  always  like  that    (up  side  down)  or  just  occasonally  it  is  so....
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akudewan  wrote:                
Hi,
 
 My  friend's  goldfish  is  upside  down.  It  seems  to  be  breathing  normally  and  is  also  eating  food.  What  could  be  wrong?                

 
 Fancy  goldfish  often  have  swimbladder  problems,  this  is  even  more  so  when  they  are  fed  only  dry  food.
 Seperate  the  fish,Lower  the  water  level,  use  salt,  feed  peas.  If  problem  does  not  go  use  medication  for  internal  parasites.
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 Thanks  for  the  replies.  I'll  ask  him  for  more  details  later,  he's  currently  not  at  home.
 
 This  guy  keeps  his  goldies  in  a  bowl,  I'm  trying  to  convince  him  to  setup  a  larger  tank.  The  most  amazing  thing  is  that  his  goldfish  were  alive  in  the  bowl  for  more  than  1  year  !!
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Thanks  for  the  replies.  I'll  ask  him  for  more  details  later,  he's  currently  not  at  home.
 
 This  guy  keeps  his  goldies  in  a  bowl,  I'm  trying  to  convince  him  to  setup  a  larger  tank.  The  most  amazing  thing  is  that  his  goldfish  were  alive  in  the  bowl  for  more  than  1  year  !!                

 
 No  wonder  this  fish  is  upside  down.  It  is  a  envoirnmental  problem.  Unless  &  untill  the  fish  is  taken  out  it  will  not  improve.
 If  your  friend  does  not  change  his  bowl,  request  him  to  atleast  keep  a  betta,  molly,  guppy.  infact  anything  other  than  a  goldfish.
 Tell  him  that  goldfish  bowls  have  been  banned  in  number  of  countries  like  Rome  etc.
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 Hi,
 Hold  the  fish  upside  down  in  your  left  hand  and  gradually  move  your  finger  on  her  belly,  this  works  like  a  miracle.Feed  the  fish  with  vegetable  matter  for  a  week,boiled  green  peas  and  blanched  Palak  will  help  the  fish  to  recover.
 With  Regards
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Hi,
 Hold  the  fish  upside  down  in  your  left  hand  and  gradually  move  your  finger  on  her  belly,  this  works  like  a  miracle.Feed  the  fish  with  vegetable  matter  for  a  week,boiled  green  peas  and  blanched  Palak  will  help  the  fish  to  recover.
 With  Regards
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 Well,  this  would  probably  remove  the  slime  coat  from  the  belly,  but  considering  the  fish's  condition,  its  worth  a  try.
 
 I  saw  the  fish  today.  The  fins  look  allright,  but  the  tail  is  a  bit  frayed.  Will  be  setting  up  the  tank  in  a  couple  of  days  hopefully.  My  friend  has  seen  my  planted  tank,  (and  other  planted  tanks  on  the  net)  and  has  gone  nuts  over  grass/moss/riccia.  The  only  thing  that  can  probably  go  with  a  goldfish  is  grass,  since  they  will  rip  out  moss  and  riccia.
 
 So  what  substrate  should  we  use?  Sand  or  pebbles?    There  were  a  couple  of  times  a  pebble  got  stuck  in  his  black  moor's  mouth,  and  he  had  to  remove  it  with  forceps.  Considering  that,  would  sand  be  a  wiser  option  ?
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shishirkamat  wrote:                
Hi,
 Hold  the  fish  upside  down  in  your  left  hand  and  gradually  move  your  finger  on  her  belly,  this  works  like  a  miracle.Feed  the  fish  with  vegetable  matter  for  a  week,boiled  green  peas  and  blanched  Palak  will  help  the  fish  to  recover.
 With  Regards
 Shishir  Kamat                

 
 Well,  this  would  probably  remove  the  slime  coat  from  the  belly,  but  considering  the  fish's  condition,  its  worth  a  try.
 
                 

 
 Use  wet  hands,  soaking  wet  is  better,  to  avoid  any  damage  to  the  fish  and  minimise  slime  coat  loss.
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 I  would  like  to  mention  something  unbelievable  here!
 I  have  a  client  who  has  a  tank  6'  size  divided  exactly  at  the  middle  so  3'  sized  tanks  each  -  one  side  houses  goldfish  and  the  other  side  is  a  community  tank.
 Inspite  of  all  objections  he  went  ahead  and  bought  an  actinic  blue  tubelight  which  he  uses  in  combination  of  a  hitachi.
 Our  observation  is  that  when-ever  he  switches  the  actinic  blue  light  one  of  his  most  priced  and  prized  orandas  will  turn  upside  down  for  no  reason  -  I  did  not  believe  this  when  I  was  told  of  this  but,  saw  it  myself  when  I  specially  visited  his  place  -  this  is  indeed  a  strange  phenomenon  which  I  still  don't  understand  -  any  guess?
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I  would  like  to  mention  something  unbelievable  here!
 I  have  a  client  who  has  a  tank  6'  size  divided  exactly  at  the  middle  so  3'  sized  tanks  each  -  one  side  houses  goldfish  and  the  other  side  is  a  community  tank.
 Inspite  of  all  objections  he  went  ahead  and  bought  an  actinic  blue  tubelight  which  he  uses  in  combination  of  a  hitachi.
 Our  observation  is  that  when-ever  he  switches  the  actinic  blue  light  one  of  his  most  priced  and  prized  orandas  will  turn  upside  down  for  no  reason  -  I  did  not  believe  this  when  I  was  told  of  this  but,  saw  it  myself  when  I  specially  visited  his  place  -  this  is  indeed  a  strange  phenomenon  which  I  still  don't  understand  -  any  guess?                

 
 Whats  the  colour  of  his  substrate?  The  light  is  probably  confusing  the  fish.  Very  strange  though.  Only  one  oranda  does  this,  and  not  the  others  ?
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 the  substrate  is  a  mixed  coloured  pebbles  of  about  1cm.  diameter  -  it  does  not  reflect  light  as  it  is  of  mixed  colour  and  the  tank  is  2'  high!
 Yes,  only  one  fish  does  this  and  remains  upside  down  for  two-three  days  even  after  switching  off  the  lights!  -    It  is  indeed  unbelievable.  But,  true!
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 This  might  just  be  coincidence,  but  my  friend  also  uses  a  blue  bulb.  Its  a  normal  5-watt  bulb
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 A  very  vauge  idea  but  it  might  be  possible  that    light  might  be  affecting  the  navigation  abilities  of  the  fish,  or  might  be  a  disco  dancer  Chuckle
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This  might  just  be  coincidence,  but  my  friend  also  uses  a  blue  bulb.  Its  a  normal  5-watt  bulb                

 To  fix  the  problem  -  I  advised  the  client  to  keep  the  oranda  on  fresh  and  frozen  green  stuff  and  to  switch  off  the  actinic  light  -  it  worked!
 But,  when  he  switches  on  the  actinic    Drinking
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 light  might  be  affecting  the  navigation  abilities  of  the  fish,    or  might  be  a  disco  dancer                    

 
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