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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:11 am Post subject: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 Hey  guys,
 
 I'm  trying  to  get  back  into  the  hobby  with  the  grace  of  God  and  thanks  mainly  to  my  4  year  old,  who  wants  fishes...   Very Happy  
 (Kid  overruled  mommy...  Clapping)
 
 I'm  getting  a  30"x24"x24",  with  filter  built  into  the  back...  I  really  am  not  sure  what  those  things  are  called...  hmmm...  looks  something  like  this  but  at  the  back  of  the  tank:
 
 www.livingreefs.com/attachments/11057d1301156232-would-work-built-sw-sump-flow-2.jpg
 
 Here's  the  problem...  son  wants  "blue"  fishes,  wife  wants  colored  ones  (read  as  Goldfish,  Mollies,  Tetras,  Scats,  Angels,  etc.)...   Sad  
 
 Right  now,  I'm  starting  the  search  for  JD...  anyone  know  where  I  can  get  one??   Thinking  of  keeping  firemouth,  GT,  Texas,  Salvini,  Jaguar....  really  unable  to  decide...  Any  help  would  be  appreciated...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 Since  you  are  already  at  2  feet  tall  and  wide  why  not  push  up  the  length  a  little  bit  more.  You  can  house  a  bunch  of  firemouths  then.
 
 That's  a  sump  filter,  hinted  in  the  URL.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 the  tank  will  be  on  a  box  stand,  so  that  would  be  size  limit...   I  realize  it's  a  sump  filter,  but  does  it  have  a  new  name  if  it's  done  within  the  tank  itself??  somebody  called  it  an  inline  filter  at  the  LFS  when  I  was  describing  the  tank...  
 
 anyways,  I  found  a  LFS  called  Fishaway  that  will  be  getting  Electric  Blue  Jack  Dempsey  sometime  next  week...  I  never  kept  those  before  and  it  meets  all  the  requirements:
 
 1)  Kid  -  "Blue  Fish"
 2)  Wife  -  "Pretty  Fish"
 3)  Me  -  CICHLID  ONLY  (for  now)   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 Well  frankly  I  was  puzzled  when  you  asked  what  that  filter  was  as  I  thought  you  knew.  If  there  is  a  specific  name  other  than  a  sump  filter/Refugium  then  I  don't  know.
 
 An  EBJD  does  fit  all  your  requirements!  
 
 However  I  must  warn  you  that  this  is  a  politically  dangerous  situation!  You  might  find  that  your  wife  and  kid  (henceforth  called  the  constituency)  having  their  initial  demands  met,  will  want  newer  concessions!  
 Another  blue  fish  and  just  like  this  since  this  one  is  so  beautiful...  Err  another  EBJD?
 Blue  is  good.  Orange  will  be  good  contrast...  A  goldfish?
 2-3  fish  is  too  less...  Can  we  have  some  of  the  small  ones  too?
 
 Just  make  sure  your  constituency  knows  how  difficult  it  was  to  come  to  a  compromise  with  your  own  desires  so  that  further  negotiations  are  easier!  
 
 Just  kidding...  ROFL
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 Smile  
 
 I  know...  I'm  expecting  a  small  war  when  it  comes  to  the  next  fish...  for  the  next  6  months  or  so,  I'm  pretty  safe...  the  EBJD  will  be  1  1/2",  so  guppies  are  the  answer....  once  he  finishes  eating  all  of  those,  then  I'm  thinking  GT,  Texas,  or  Firemouth...  maybe  Jaguar  or  Salvini...  depending  on  what  they  choose...
 
 Figured  it's  easier  to  negotiate  when  you  give  them  choices,  rather  than  saying  what  do  you  like  in  the  LFS...  Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Well  frankly  I  was  puzzled  when  you  asked  what  that  filter  was  as  I  thought  you  knew.  If  there  is  a  specific  name  other  than  a  sump  filter/Refugium  then  I  don't  know.
                 

 
 Its  been  so  long,  I  thought  maybe  a  new  word  had  cropped  up  for  the  filter  setup...  felt  kinda  strange  calling  it  an  inline  filter  when  it  was  a  sump  filter...  sometimes  you  don't  know  if  you  are  outdated  or  if  somebody  is  making  stuff  up...   Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

                                                   
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Smile  
 so  guppies  are  the  answer....  once  he  finishes  eating  all  of  those,  then  I'm  thinking  GT,  Texas,  or  Firemouth...  maybe  Jaguar  or  Salvini...  depending  on  what  they  choose...
                 

 
 With  young  kids  around  it  might  not  be  a  good  idea  to  have  fish  eat  another  live  fish,  Smile
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 With  young  kids  around  it  might  not  be  a  good  idea  to  have  fish  eat  another  live  fish,  Smile                

 
   Chuckle  
 
 Right  now,  he  thinks  all  fishes  are  friendly  to  each  other,  except  "Shark"  fishes...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 Well,  I  haven't  read  through  all  the  responses  in  detail.      Considering  your  tank  size,  I  thought  your  requirements  could  have  been  met  with  Demasoni,  Yellow  labs  etc.  with  good  rock  set  up
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 Jai,
 
 thanks...  but  my  heart  is  set  on  EBJD...  never  kept  them,  so  very  tempted.   Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 For  starters  EBJD  are  very  shy  ,  constant  water  changes  are  essential  to  bring  about  the  blue  in  them.
 Sometimes  it  is  frustrating  to  have  them  as  they  will  hide  for  ever  and  will  never  come  out  except  for  feeding.  (  Personal  experience)
 Feed  Spirulina  rich  food  ,  along  with  a  mix  feed  to  maintain  the  rich  blue  in  them.
 Get  EBJD's  from  a  good  source  ,  reason...a  lot  of  inbreeding  has  resulted  to  higher  mortalilty  before  they  reach  3  inches  and  faded  colors.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:20 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 whoa...  
 
 the  guy  is  from  "fishaway"...  any  ideas  on  how  good  his  fishes  are??   any  particular  feed  in  mind?   it's  been  quite  some  time,  so  all  the  help  is  appreciated...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 update:
 
 NO  EBJD...  2  african  (the  albino  ones,  I  don't  remember  what  they're  called),  1  salvini,  and  1  Firemouth....
 
 the  worst  part:  red,  white,  and  green  pebbles...  Sad   "To  bring  color  to  the  tank"-Wife   Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

                                                   
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update:
 
 NO  EBJD...  2  african  (the  albino  ones,  I  don't  remember  what  they're  called),  1  salvini,  and  1  Firemouth....
 
 the  worst  part:  red,  white,  and  green  pebbles...  Sad   "To  bring  color  to  the  tank"-Wife   Sad                

 
 I'm  not  too  sure  if  the  Africans  get  along  with  the  salvini  and  the  firemouth,  especially  in  terms  of  water  conditions.  And  if  you  want  the  fish  to  show  more  natural  feeding  behavior  you  will  have  to  change  that  substrate  for  something  smaller  grained.  By  the  way  the  substrate  you  have  now  is  often  termed  clown  puke  unless  of  course  you  happen  to  like  it.   Very Happy  But  I  guess  one  of  the  advantages  of  living  in  a  democratic  household  is  that  one  can  hope  for  negotiations  later  on.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:14 am Post subject: Re: Back with Cichlids... I think Reply with quote

 Democracy?  what's  that?  clown  puke  came  about  like  so:
 
 Wife:  "The  green,  white,  red,  and  blue  pebbles  will  add  color  to  the  tank.   Lets  get  a  blue  background  as  well...  wait...  no...  blue  background  will  not  look  good  with  blue  pebbles..."
 Me:  "Hmmm..."
 Wife:  "Lets  get  the  green,  white,  and  red  ones...  it'll  look  really  nice..."
 Me:  "Hmmm..."
 Son:  "I  want  that  blue  fish  and  that  yellow  fish."
 Me:  "Hmmm..."
 Wife:  "Look...  it's  just  a  suggestion.   We'll  get  whatever  you  want."
 Me:  (Thinking)  "Oh  Edit...  it's  that  TONE!!"
 Me:  "Lets  get  1  kg  of  each  of  the  colors"
 Son:  "Blue  fish  and  yellow  fish..."
 
 So...  negotiation  means...  what  exactly?
 
 BTW,  the  blue  background  was  supposed  to  go  into  the  tank,  after  the  water  was  filled...  tried  putting  it  in,  in  front  of  family.   Didn't  work  (what  a  surprise).
 
   Wife:  "Oh  well...  it  just  looks  a  bit  ugly...  atleast  the  pebbles  give  it  color."
 
 AGAIN:  negotiation  means...  what  exactly??
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