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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 Philosophy,  Artistic,  Spiritual,  Scientific,  Persevering,  Cool,  Challenging,  Cosmical,  ecological,  Biological,  eyesoothing,  entertaining,  meditating,
 
 
 All  these  are  attributes  of  THE  PLANTED  TANK-
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Philosophy,  Artistic,  Spiritual,  Scientific,  Persevering,  Cool,  Challenging,  Cosmical,  ecological,  Biological,  eyesoothing,  entertaining,  meditating,
 
 
 All  these  are  attributes  of  THE  PLANTED  TANK-                

 
 These  are  attributes  to  an  aquascape.  Not  a  planted  tank.  
 
 A  planted  tank  is  just  that;  a  tank  with  plants.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Philosophy,  Artistic,  Spiritual,  Scientific,  Persevering,  Cool,  Challenging,  Cosmical,  ecological,  Biological,  eyesoothing,  entertaining,  meditating,
 
 
 All  these  are  attributes  of  THE  PLANTED  TANK-                

 
 These  are  attributes  to  an  aquascape.  Not  a  planted  tank.  
 
 A  planted  tank  is  just  that;  a  tank  with  plants.                

 
 Thanks   Athreyan.
 
 If  it  is  then  more  or  less  all  tanks  are  planted  tank.  Then  why  we  start  to  mention  specifically  “Planted  tank”!!  Even  ten  years  back  also  people  bought  the  tank,  plants,  fish,  light,  filter  etc  etc.  But  always  we  heard  that  he/she  bought  an  Aquarium  and  we  went  to  see  the  tank  or  aquarium.
 
 Then  suddenly  how  this  "Planted  Tank"  or  "Planted  World"  terminology  came  up!!   Why  !!
 
 Even  I  also  was  hearing  it  last  6-7  years.  Planted  tank….Planted  Tank…..Planted  Tank….Why  not  an  aquarium!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 Abhida,  that  is  exactly  what  I'm  trying  to  say.  We  are  getting  entangled  in  terminology.
 
 Planted  tank  has  always  been  around.  I  had  planted  tanks  more  than  18  years  ago  upto  my  college  times.  But  I  left  the  hobby  and  started  up  again  2  years  ago.  Only  now  do  I  even  know  anything  about  designing  the  tank  to  my  taste.  That  designing  is  what  we  call  aquascaping.
 
 All  I'm  trying  to  say  is  that  a  tank  with  plants,  whether  is  scaped  or  not  is  a  planted  tank.
 
 let  me  put  it  this  way:  all  tanks  with  plants  are  planted  tanks  but  not  all  tanks  with  plants  are  aquascaped  tanks.
 
 I  think  that  is  the  point  you're  trying  to  bring  out  through  this  thread.  Am  I  thinking  right?
 
 In  this  specific  case  (the  person's  tank  you're  trying  to  debate),  I  will  totally  say  that  it  is  a  planted  tank,  BUT  it  is  not  an  aquascaped  tank.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

                                                   
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 These  are  attributes  to  an  aquascape.   A  planted  tank  is  just  that;  a  tank  with  plants.
 
                 

 
 I  differ  here-
 
 Aquascaping  is  an  intentional  creation  of  a  design  which  requires  specific  skills  and  indepth  experience.  Its  like  a  sculpturer  creating  a  statue.  Its  like  giving  colour  and  shape  to  it.
 
 Creating  a  planted  tank  is  simply  bringing  nature  home.  
 
 Nature  is  so  imperfect,  yet  so  beautiful.  There  is  no  fabrication  of  any  scenary.  It  has  just  happened  on  its  own.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 Exactly  Athreyan.  We  are  both  saying  the  same  but  in  a  different  manner.
 
 What  I  mean  to  say  what's  a  big  deal  to  say  any  tank  with  plant  is  normal  aquarium.  As  per  my  small  knowledge  only  few  years  back  this  terminology  came  specially  when  Takashi  Amano's  creation  comes  to  public.  And  I  keeping  plants  in  my  tank  since  last  35  years.  But  I  never  
 said  I  have  a  planted  tank.  I  start  to  say  planted  tank  since  2009  with  the  proper  aquascaping  and  other  things.  Try  to  understand  me  what  I  mean  to  say.
 
 Garothmaan  is  also  right.  
 
 Previously  we  have  two  segments.  Freshwater  &  Marine.  Now  another  segment  is  added  "Planted  Tank".  And  if  you  watch  the  threads  you  can  see  lot  of  details  like,  Light,  Substrate,  plants,  rocks,  filtration  etc.  etc.  People  are  thinking  they  are  doing  aquascaping  but  lot  of  cases  they  are  only  tank  with  plants  which  existing  for  a  long  long  times.  Nothing  new  and  and  we  start  giving  our  comments.
 
 Here  is  I  defer.  Hope  you  understood  what  I  mean………
 
 And  also  if  any  tank  is  not  aquascaped  tank  then  why  should  I  consider  a  planted  tank  !!  It's  a  normal  aquarium  like  millions  of  aquarium  all  over  the  world.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 Not  only  that,  after  coming  this  "Planted  Tank"  terminology  people  start  thinking  seriously  about  the  tanks  size,  substrate,  filtration,  lighting,  what  type  of  plants  will  be  ok  etc.  etc.  
 
 Lots  of  discussion,  time,  energy,  posting,  comments  etc.  etc.   But  for  what!!  Only  for  "Planted  Tank'  which  don't  need  these  at  all  and  you  know  that  very  well.
 
 Actually  these  all  for  aquascaped  tank.  Isn't  it  !!
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 Abhi  da.....  All  planted  tank  may  not  be  aquascape.......
 
 People  in  slums  live  in  shacks  and  it  is  their  home.....  So  a  home  may  not  be  properly  architectured  and  still  it  can  be  home.
 As  long  as  a  tank  has  plants  and  can  survive  and  grow  in  it.....  It  has  every  right  to  be  called  as  planted.
 
 Garothman  you  should  be  the  first  person  to  acknowledge  it........  I  have  never  seen  an  aquascape  from  you.  All  I  saw  is  planted  tanks.  I  am  even  not  sure  if  they  sustained.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 I  don't  really  think  we  are  saying  the  same  thing.  You're  saying  that  a  tank  can  be  called  planted  tank  only  when  it  is  scaped.  I'm  saying  that  you  can  call  any  tank  with  enough  plants  to  make  an  impact  on  that  ecosystem  a  planted  tank.
 
 i  agree  that  aquascaping  is  a  relatively  new  term.  But  planted  tanks  have  been  around  for  much  longer,  but  without  any  thought  to  aesthetics.  now  it  is  not  a  matter  of  when  one  'heard'  of  the  term.
 
 talk  about  substrate,  lights  etc  is  also  a  recent  development,  I  agree.  But  whether  the  tank  is  scaped  or  not,  plants  need  nutrition.  Of  course,  it  is  also  new  that  we  suplement  nutrition.  Earlier  I  just  used  to  bury  some  plants  in  the  sand  and  let  the  fish  poo  take  care  of  nutrition.  Now  (as  everything  in  the  modern  age)  we  want  instant  &  fast  results,  so  we  dose  fertilizers.
 
 Plants  really  don't  know  if  they  have  been  arranged  in  an  aesthetic  manner  or  not.  They  just  need  nutrition.
 
 So  if  you  have  a  scaped  tank  or  just  threw  in  some  plants,  you  still  have  to  take  care  of  them.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 +1  Jabba...  
 
 Lighting,  substrate,  co2  etc  are  not  for  aquascaping,  they  are  for  plant  health...  whether  they  are  aquascaped  or  not.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 Sorry  Athreyan  you  didn't  get  my  point.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Abhi  da.....  All  planted  tank  may  not  be  aquascape.......
 
 Garothman  you  should  be  the  first  person  to  acknowledge  it........  I  have  never  seen  an  aquascape  from  you.  All  I  saw  is  planted  tanks.  I  am  even  not  sure  if  they  sustained.
                 

 
 Thats  what  I  am  saying.  Natural  versus  Made-up-
 
 Aquascape  is  a  replica  of  a  picture  or  an  imagined  creation  .  But  Planted  tank  is  just  like  the  wild  natural  thing
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 Abhis9-  I'm  not  getting  your  point.  
 
 According  to  you  what  is  a  planted  tank  and  what  is  an  aquascape?
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 Abhis9  -  I  know  you  are  a  senior  member  and  i  dont  mean  any  offence,  but  i  think  the  discussion  has  deviated  from  the  original  topic  -  from  clarification  on  the  definition  of  a  planted  tank  to  whether  or  not  a  planted  tank  by  definition  must  be  an  aquascape  -  and  it  has  turned  more  into  a  personal  issue.  As  for  the  original  topic  of  the  thread,  i'd  like  to  say  that  planted  tanks  dont  only  refer  to  high-tech,  high  budget  aquariums  which  have  been  aquascaped.  The  category  of  planted  tanks  also  includes  low-tech  tanks  (  like  mine)  which  only  sustain  plants  without  much  external  help  such  as  ferts  and  CO2.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: What is Planted tank !! Reply with quote

 So  in  past  I  have  kept  densely  planted  tanks.  I  am  not  a  very  creative  person  so  they  wont  fit  the  Dutch,  Jungle  and  other  aquascaping  types  that  are  out  there.  
 Only  low  demanding,  fast  growing  plants  without  CO2  and  other  stuff.   But  both  the  plants  and  fish  were  always  healthy  and  properly  taken  care  of.
 
 Just  because  I  am  probably  not  the  most  creative  person  around,  should  I  call  them  aquarium?  
 
 I  own  a  Santro  and  Tendulkar  owns  a  Ferrari.....In  the  end  both  are  cars  as  they  serve  the  same  purpose.  Just  because,  compared  to  Ferrari  my  car  does  not  cost  crores,  it  is  not  attention  grabber,  does  not  have  the  aesthetic  value  and  fancy  gadgets...should  I  call  it  a  car  or  should  I  call  it  a  piece  of  metal  on  four  rubber  tyres.   Chuckle
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