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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 The  discuss  look  beautiful  buddy..But  keep  in  mind  that  they  do  not  prefer  much  movement  in  the  water..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 Hi  Doc,
 
 +1  hobby.
 
 Discus  is  totally  a  different  type  of  fish  which  needs  lots  of  care.
 
 Member's  are  already  say  few.  
 
 As  a  algae  eater  you  can  try  with  Bristol  Nose  Pleco.  They  are  really  good.  Ottos  are  not  suitable
 for  this  size  of  tank.  
 
 Best  of  luck.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 Update
 
 The  anubias  nana  which  are  at  the  highest  points  in  the  tank,  around  1  foot  from  the  surface  developed  a  few  brown  spots  on  the  leaves.  It  wasn't  algae.  Rubbed  the  leaves  and  seen.  Was  happening  only  on  the  ones  placed  closer  to  the  light
 I  thought  it  was  due  to  high  lighting?
 Removed  these  and  placed  deeper  in  the  tank.  Now  the  spots  on  the  leaves  have  reduced  a  bit.
 
 Anyone  else  noticed  this  with  anubias?
 
 Java  fern  which  i  at  the  highest  points  is  not  affected..  growing  well  and  sprouting   new  leaves.
 All  anubias  has  grown  new  leaves  too
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 Planning  to  add  many  plants  at  the  back  half  of  tank.  Planted  in  the  substrate.
 Mostly  Crypts,  some  vals  and  swords
 
 Will  they  do  good  in  low  tech  setup  ?
 
 My  tank  is  3.5  foot  deep.  Holds  about  2000  litres  of  water.  
 Current  lighting  is  T5.  One  4  foot  unit  54W  x  4  and   one  3  foot  unit  40W  x  4
 
 Anubias  seems  to  do  fine  right  now.  Even  at  the  bottom
 Will  the  lighting  be  enough  for  the  other  plants  mentioned?  
 
 Is  CO2  necessary  for  the  low  demanding  plants  mentioned?   Can  you  suggest  what  CO  2  equipment  would  be  the  minimum  needed  for  my  tank?  I  know  my  tank  is  huge.  Are  there  any  viable  options  ???  I  may  take  the  discus  out.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 Yes  anubias  hate  high  lights.......  I  would  suggest  you  t  stick  on  to  the  ferna  and  anu  ias....  There  are  plenty  of  fern  varieties  .  Try  needle  leaf  java  fern  if  you  need  lengthy  plants
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 I  have  had  crypts  and  vals  without  CO2  for  decades.  Without  high  light  adding  CO2  is  pretty  useless.  Second  they  will  grow  slower,  which  will  spare  you  lots  of  work  Smile
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I  have  had  crypts  and  vals  without  CO2  for  decades.  Without  high  light  adding  CO2  is  pretty  useless.  Second  they  will  grow  slower,  which  will  spare  you  lots  of  work  Smile                

 
 very  encouraging   Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:56 am Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 Your  tank  setup  looks  amazing   Smile  some  Question  and  Suggustion
 
 Anubias  and  fern  in  low  tech  tank  in  HYD Surprised  What  is  the  tank  temprature?
 
 Some  of  the  low  tech  plants-
 
    Green  Cabomba  
     Baby  tears/Hemianthus  micranthemoides  
     valsinaria
     Hygrophila  Difformis
     Rotala  Rotundifolia  (Red/Green)
     Egeria  Najas
     Sagittaria  subulata
     Hygrophila  Poly  Sperma  (variegated  Red  and  green)
     Bocapa  monnieri
     Myriophyllum  aquaticum
     Cryptocoryne  spiralis  (Green/Red)
     most  crypt
     Echinodorus  varities  (Green/Red)
     Gymnocoronis  spilanthoides
     Gaint  Azurea
     common  Ludwigia
     Marble  Queen  -  white  patched  green  leave  in  low  lighting
     Heteranthera  Zosteraefolia  -  carpet  and  mid  ground
     Potamogeton  gayi
     Nymphaea  (lily)  family
     common  ludwigia
     penny  worth
     Lobelia  cardinalis  (short  and  long)
     Temple  mint  (short  and  long)
     

 
 are  some  of  the  plants  that  can  live  in  low  tech.  In  the  first  picture,  you  have  large  windows  close  to  the  location  of  the  tank,  still  lighting  may  be  a  worry.  you  will  need  some  good  lighting  of  about  1.5watt  per  gallon  and  some  fert  additioin  -  micros,  if  low  fish  add  macros  too  for  some  nice  dense  plant  growth.
 
 Co2  may  be  added  later,  if  you  opt  to  grow  demanding  plants[list]
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 Hey  Doc,  Was  slightly  disappointed  to  see  discus  as  replacements  to  the  filament  barbs.   That  makes  it  look  like  any  other  large  tank.
 
 Yes,  a  large  school  of  cardinals  +  a  group  of  altums  would  have  been  more  interesting.   Not  too  different  kind  of  stocking,  but  given  the  large  space,  it  would  have  been  wonderful  to  see  a  big  school  of  fishes  moving  around.   And  it  could  have  helped  you  save  much  of  the  maintenance  work,  water  changes  etc.
 
 Not  sure  how  you'll  manage  to  grow  and  maintain  lots  of  plants  in  such  a  big  (and  deep)  tank.   With  high  lights  you  might  get  into  algae  issues  and  cleaning  them  would  again  be  difficult  (as  another  member  said,  any  algae  eating  species  is  only  half  helpful).
 
 Given  all  this,  a  low-light,  Amazon  biotope  will  be  easy  as  well  as  enchanting.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 Thanks  pandian  G  :)
 
   
                                                 
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Hey  Doc,  Was  slightly  disappointed  to  see  discus  as  replacements  to  the  filament  barbs.   That  makes  it  look  like  any  other  large  tank.
 
 Yes,  a  large  school  of  cardinals  +  a  group  of  altums  would  have  been  more  interesting.   Not  too  different  kind  of  stocking,  but  given  the  large  space,  it  would  have  been  wonderful  to  see  a  big  school  of  fishes  moving  around.   And  it  could  have  helped  you  save  much  of  the  maintenance  work,  water  changes  etc.
 
 Not  sure  how  you'll  manage  to  grow  and  maintain  lots  of  plants  in  such  a  big  (and  deep)  tank.   With  high  lights  you  might  get  into  algae  issues  and  cleaning  them  would  again  be  difficult  (as  another  member  said,  any  algae  eating  species  is  only  half  helpful).
 
 Given  all  this,  a  low-light,  Amazon  biotope  will  be  easy  as  well  as  enchanting.                

 
 I  have  removed  the  discus  from  the  tank  to  much  disappointment  of  my  family.  
 As  I  wanted  to  have  low  maintenance.  
 
 Added  300+  cardinals.  EVERY  ONE  OF  THEM  SCHOOLS  TOGETHER   Clapping  
 Its  not  crowded  at  all.  My  tank  has  space  for  500  more   Chuckle  
 Tank  looks  grt  now.  Will  post  pics  soon.  
 
 Going  to  add  LOTS  of  low  light  plants  by  this  weekend
 Will  add  a  school  of  50  denisonii  after  that
 Will  decide  on  other  fish  later
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: MY 8 FEET TANK JOURNAL Reply with quote

 Wow!  That's  cool.   Eager  to  see  the  pics.   And  pls.  consider  angels  or  other  biotope  fishes.   Denisonis  are  beautiful,  but  its  just  that  its  hard  to  think  of  them  paired  with  cardinals.
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 If  low  maintenance  is  what  you  are  looking  for.......stick  to  ferns.....You  will  not  be  disappointed.  You  will  get  a  good  thick  forest  in  course  of  time
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 UPDATE
 300+  cardinals  added  2  days  ago.  lost  a  few.  all  doing  fine  now.  1  discus  still  left  in  the  tank.  couldnt  catch  it.  will  be  removed  soon
 
 added  many  windelow  java  fern  and  needle  leaf  java  fern  today  to  the  big  wood  on  the  left
 
 before.  the  wood  was  toppled  in  my  attempt  to  catch  the  discus.
 
 
 after.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 took  2  hours  to  tie  all  the  new  ferns.  still  have  many  needle  leaf  java  ferns  left.  might  add  them  to  the  same  wood  or  to  the  empty  peaks  of  the  woods  on  the  right.
 
 plants  will  be  added  to  the  substrate  this  weekend
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 Great!!!!  now  with  the  new  plants  and  cardinal  school  the  tank  is  even  more  good  looking  Smile
 just  a  suggestion  if  u  have  some  more  needle  leaf  ferns  left  out  try  adding  towards  the  bottom  of  the  wood  it  will  look  good  ,...  may  be  the  aquascapers  can  give  better  advice  though.
 
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 Hi  doc_siddhu...this  is  Siddhartha  from  Chandigarh  (though  I  belong  to  Hyderabad)....just  a  bit  curious  seeing  your  setup.   Is  this  aquarium  on  the  ground  floor  or  an  upper  floor?...just  seeing  the  water  filling  visuals...tempted  to  ask  you.
 
 I  am  actually  planning  a  8'x3'x3'  aquarium  on  the  6th  floor  of  an  apartment....but  many  said  I  was  risking...so  though  of  asking  you  and  clarifying  a  few  doubts.
 
 
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