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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 
 I  have  some  queries  regarding  the  substrate  used  for  planted  tanks.  Look  forward  to  guidance  from  all  you  experienced  folks.
 
 There  are  so  many  types  available  –  ADA  Amazonia,  ADA  aquasoil,  Controsoil,  laterite,  aquaclay,  garden  soil  topped  with  sand  etc.
 
 1.What  is  the  difference  between  these  substrates  except  for  the  brand?
 2.Which  type  of  substrate  is  suitable  for  which  kind  of  plants?  
 3.Which  substrate  should  one  choose?  What  factors  should  one  consider?
 4.What  are  the  typical  price  ranges  for  these  substrates?
 5.Is  CO2  required  for  all  of  these  substrates  or  can  plants  grow  well  without  CO2  in  these?
 
 Thanks  &  Regards
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 Experts,  Please  advise....thanks  in  advance
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 I  am  not  an  expert  ,  but  from  my  experience  contro  soil  is  a  good  substrate.  it  comes  in  4mm  and  2mm  size.  for  small  forground  plants  like  dwarf  hair  grass  and  HC  u  should  2mm  size...  u  will  get  good  results  from  branded  substrates  like  u  mentioned  above,  2mm  contro  soil  costs  2k  here,  4mm  will  cost  u  a  little  less.
 
 co2  suppliment  is  only  done  in  mid-high  tec  tanks,  if  u  r   planning  to  plant  too  many  plants  or  if  u  want  your  plants  to  thrive  well  u  can  suppliment  them  co2,  but  enough  light  should  also  be  given...  some  plants  only  need  moderate  lighting  ,  some  high  some  will  do  good  in  display  light  itself.....
 
 U  can  also  try  dirted  tank  method  if  u  r  tight  in  budget......
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 @  prejithpreman  -  thanks  for  the  insights.  Have  tried  the  dirt  method  in  past,  although  in  pots  for  growing  Egaria  densa  and  amazon  swords
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 I  have  river  sand  and  river  sand  only.  
 
 My  experience  with  riversand  is  about  2  years  now  and  I  found  it  to  be  very  natural  substrate  for  planted  tanks.  
 
 Only  thing  is,  that  I  have  been  able  to  plant  those  plants  which  were  not  very  exotic  and  demanding.
 
 In  my  river  sand  tanks,  siphoning  is  easy  and  putting  back  the  soil/topping-up  is  easy.  Its  economical  and  easily  available.
 
 If  you  have  dumped  the  tank  with  fishes,  and  a  lot  of  fishes  have  died,  then  you  can  re-do  the  whole  tank  after  cleaning  the  soil  properly  in  no  time.  Its  long  lasting  also.
 
 when  you  bring  river  sand,  hard  work  for  the  first  time  is  a  must.  if  you  bring  20kg  of  river  sand  and  start  cleaning/rinsing  almost  10%  will  get  washed  away.  so  18kg  will  remain.  This  is  enough  for  a  30"X18"X15"  tank.
 
 When  you  fill  water  a  little  dust  will  come  up,  but  that  can  be  siphoned  off.  Peroidically  you  will  need  to  clean  the  glass.  filteration  can  be  at  a  minimum  of  a  good  sponge  filter.
 
 CO2  is  required,  DIY  is  enough.  
 
 The  best  part  is,  that  you  can  DOSE  even  the  terretial  plant  fertilsers.  and  these  ferts  are  very  cheap  also.  
 
 rinse  the  soil  in  small  proportions  by  hand(fistful  each  time)  in  a  towel.  When  you  lay  the  soil  in  the  tank  and  put  water,  very  little  dust  should  rise.
 
 for  about  1  week  the  water  willl  remain  hazy,  after  that  weekly  changes  are  adequate.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 Thanks  Garothmaan  :)
 
 One  question  -  You  have  mentioned  both  river  sand  and  soil.  Are  you  referring  to  using  a  layer  of  garden  soil  topped  up  with  a  layer  of  river  sand?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 Aquanomics,
 
 You  can  try  to  give  a  bottom  layer  of  garden  soil,  however  if  you  do  so,  the  top  layer  should  be  thick  (atleast  2  inch)  to  prevent  the  bootm  layer  eruption.  
 
 Secondly,  you  will  have  to  change  the  water  initially  little  more  frequently  so  that  the  tank  cycles  and  water  parameters  stabilize  faster.  
 
 Keeping  in  mind  the  bottom  layer  is  of  garden  soil,  while  doing  the  plantation,  you  have  to  be  careful,  else  all  the  efforts  will  go  in  vain.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Thanks  Garothmaan  :)
 
 One  question  -  You  have  mentioned  both  river  sand  and  soil.  Are  you  referring  to  using  a  layer  of  garden  soil  topped  up  with  a  layer  of  river  sand?                

 
 
 I  mean  river  sand  as  soil.
 
 River  sand  will  have  mud,  wood  chips,  other  stones,  it  will  also  have  tanins.  after  washing  river  sand  and  nicely  arranging  it  n  the  tank  you  will  see,  that  a  heirarcy  level  will  form.  
 
 the  most  powder  form(mud)  will  be  at  the  lowest  end  and  then  small  particle,  and  then  a  little  bigger  and  then  big  stones  at  the  top  layer.
 
 after  the  washing  and  filling  water,  the  next  that  water  will  trun  yellow,  it  will  release  tanins.
 
 The  mud  is  fine  river  sand  only.  
 
 I  have  removed  this  sand  layer  by  layer  to  find  out  the  reality  when  redoing  my  tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Substrate types for planted tanks? Reply with quote

 Choose  the  substrate  based  on  the  plants  that  you  wanted  to  grow.  There  are  different  ways  of  creating  DIY  substrate  for  a  planted  tank.  There  are  lots  of  articles  in  Internet  on  how  to  do  that.  
 
 Before  you  start  the  DIY  substrate,  make  sure  that  you  have  all  the  raw  materials  required  to  prepare  is  available  locally.  Prepare  the  list  of  raw  materials  required  to  make  the  substrate.  See  what  is  available  in  the  local  market.  See  if  something  is  not  available,  what  can  be  used  instead  of  it.
 
 There  are  advantages  and  dis-advantages  in  using  the  DIY  substrate.  Understand  that  and  then  decide  to  go  for  DIY  substrate  or  not.
 
 Keep  us  posted.
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