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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:58 pm Post subject: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Hi,
       I'm  new  to  this  forum  and  New  to  this  hobby  too.  Planning  to  start  with  tank  size  4X2X2.  I  don't  have  previous  experience  in  fish  keeping.  Please  suggest  to  go  with  this  tank  size  or  a  smaller  one.  
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi,
       I'm  new  to  this  forum  and  New  to  this  hobby  too.  Planning  to  start  with  tank  size  4X2X2.  I  don't  have  previous  experience  in  fish  keeping.  Please  suggest  to  go  with  this  tank  size  or  a  smaller  one.  
 
       I'm  thankful  for  being  part  of  this  community   Thumbs Up   
 
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 Hello  Murali,
 
 Welcome  to  IAH.
 
 For  a  beginner,  a  4  feet  tank  is  huge  may  be  atleast  until  you  get  to  know  the  basics  of  an  aquarium  setup.  Are  you  planning  for  a  Planted  aquarium  setup  or  a  setup  with  just  Fishes?
 
 Before  diving,  please  do  some  research  based  on  your  interest.  It  is  always  best  to  start  with  a  smaller  tank  (  when  you  are  totally  new  to  fish  keeping)  and  then  move  on  to  bigger  setup  once  you  are  comfortable.  But  again,  there  is  no  hard  and  fast  rule  saying  that  you  only  need  to  start  with  a  smaller  one.
 
 Kindly  update  your  profile  with  your  location.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Welcome  to  the  world  of  insanity...  I'd  like  to  call  it  'f'ish  keeping'..Once  hooked,  there  is  no  backing  out  my  friend   Chuckle   Chuckle     I  'd  advice  you  to  first  visit  any  fish  shop  and  select  few  fishes  which  you  are  fond  of.  Cite  their  names  here  so  that  we  can  discuss  about  their  compatibility.First  decide  for  yourself  what  you  want  to  keep.  That  is  the  most  important  thing  according  to  me.Best  of  luck  ..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

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Hi,
 
 For  a  beginner,  a  4  feet  tank  is  huge  may  be  atleast  until  you  get  to  know  the  basics  of  an  aquarium  setup.  Are  you  planning  for  a  Planted  aquarium  setup  or  a  setup  with  just  Fishes?
 
                 

 
 Hi  Vin,
      Thanks  for  the  quick  response.  Yes  I'm  in  plan  of  going  for  planted  aquarium.  Initially  I  dreamed  of  having  a  marine  but  the  cost  made  me  to  come  to  ground  reality   Very Happy.  Have  to  say  mesmerized  by  the  beauty  of  Marine  aquarium.  So  currently  hooking  to  planted  tank  and  aquascaping.  
 
      By  the  way  I'm  from  Chennai  -  Velacherry
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Hello  Murali,
 
 Planted  setup  is  good  choice  for  a  4ft  tank  is  fine.
 
 As  I  said  before,  do  some  research  on  how  things  related  to  planted  setup  are.  The  best  would  be  to  go  through  IAH  which  have  got  great  information  with  with  great  and  highly  experienced  hobbyists.
 
 Spend  more  time  on  research  initially  before  investing  money  on  to  the  setup.  Ask  questions  on  things  where  you  are  not  clear.  Spend  an  hour  daily  on  the  site  reading  similar  threads  and  that  would  really  make  a  huge  difference.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

                                                   
hrishi007  wrote  (View  Post):                
Welcome  to  the  world  of  insanity...  I'd  like  to  call  it  'f'ish  keeping'..Once  hooked,  there  is  no  backing  out  my  friend   Chuckle   Chuckle     I  'd  advice  you  to  first  visit  any  fish  shop  and  select  few  fishes  which  you  are  fond  of.  Cite  their  names  here  so  that  we  can  discuss  about  their  compatibility.First  decide  for  yourself  what  you  want  to  keep.  That  is  the  most  important  thing  according  to  me.Best  of  luck  ..                

 
 Hi  Hrishi007,
    
                      Thanks  for  your  inputs  Smile  Visited  LFS  last  weekend.  One  thing  I  noticed  is  they  are  keen  on  doing  business.  They  are  saying  many  things  like  you  buy  this  that  etc...  
   
                        Currently  looking  for  small  fishes  like  Barbs,  Tetras  &  Guppies  to  start  with.  A  community  setup  kind  of  thing.  
 
 Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Welcome  Murali,  both  to  fish-keeping  and  IAH,  you're  at  the  right  place  :)
 
 I  am  no  expert,  but  like  clement  mentioned,  its  better  you  start  off  with  a  small  tank,  that  is  if  you  haven't  bought  one  already.
 A  10G  (approx  2'x1'x1')  is  a  good  size  for  starters.  Water  change  is  an  essential  part  of  fish  keeping,  and  a  10G  will  make  sure  the  changes  are  short  and  sweet  Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Murali,
 Welcome  to  IAH  and  to  this  addictive  hobby..
 No  matter  what  people  say,  when  it  comes  to  tank  size.  The  bigger  is  better,  you  are  lucky  to  have  a  4  footer.
 First  you  should  know  about  fishes  and  their  compatibility  with  each  other  and  the  kind  of  tank  setup  you  are  planning.  Like  some  fishes  cant  be  kept  in  planted  aquarium,  some  need  lots  of  rock  work  and  some  need  very  special  setups  like  shell  dweller  chiclids.
   I  would  suggest  go  for  a  non  planted  tank  or  a  low  tech  planted  tank.
 For  low  tech  tank,
 The  cheaper  plant  list  consists  of  vallisneria,  amazon  swords,  Sagittaria,  most  of  the  Hygrophila  species,  Rotala  rotundifolia,  Rotala  rotundifolia  sp.  'Green',  Rotala  indica,  Ceratophylum  demersum,  Myriophyllum  aquaticum,  Bocapa  monnieri,  Hydrocotyle,  All  Cryptocoryne  species,  Najas  Indica.  regular  Java  moss.
 The  more  pricey  list  includes  plants  like  Anubias,  Java  ferns  and  other  Moss.  these  plants  need  Drift  woods  or  rocks  to  be  tied  on.
 Choose  a  Good  canister  filter  with  around  3000Lts/hr  output,  or  2nos  of  1500Lts/hr.
 For  substrate  you  can  go  for  DIY  mineralised  soil  set  up  or  buy  those  branded  substartes  like  Aquasoil  or  Controsoil.
 Cycle  the  tank  for  a  couple  of  months  before  introducing  fishes  in  to  the  tank..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Hi  Murali,
 
 Welcome  To  IAH.
 
 And  like  Srinidhi  said  the  bigger  the  tank  is  to  easy  to  start  with,  first  basic  thing  is  nitrogen  cycle  below  is  some  links  for  you  to  understand  about  cycling  process  you  need  to  introduce  fish  only  when  the  tank  is  cycled
 
 http://freshwater-aquarium-passion.blogspot.in/2010/10/nitrogen-cycle-for-dummies.html
 
 http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm
 
 so  you  are  planning  planted  tank  then  you  need  to  know  about  the  below  things
 
 Substarte
 
 This  is  the  base  layer  of  the  aquascape,  below  are  some  links  which  guide  you  to  select  proper  substrate  for  your  need.
 
 http://www.ukaps.org/index.php?page=guide-to-substrates
 
 http://www.thegreenmachineonline.com/articles/tips-techniques/aquarium-substrates-explained
 
 When  you  dose  fertilizer  you  can  use  any  substrate  but  best  for  beginners  is  to  start  with  ADA  aquasoil  amazonia,  controsoil...etc
 
 Lighting,  CO2  and  Filter
 
 Basic  thump  rule  is  10x  flow  of  your  tank  volume  eg.  if  you  got  a  tank  with  200  litre  volume  capacity  then  you  need  to  buy  2000litre  per  hour  flow  capacity  filter.
 
 CO2  depends  on  your  plant  selection,  but  it  always  better  to  have,  below  are  some  links  which  will  guide  you  
 
 http://www.ukaps.org/forum/threads/co2-in-the-planted-aquarium.2270/
 
 http://www.aquariumadvice.com/beginners-guide-to-co2-injection-in-the-planted-tank/
 
 http://www.plantedtank.net/articles/Pressurized-CO2/19/
 
 Lighting  which  required  for  photosynthesis  best  is  6500k  color  temperature  lighting.
 
 http://www.talkfishy.com/resources/aquarium-lighting/372-5-types-of-recommended-lighting-for-a-planted-tank-setup
 
 http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/lighting.htm
 
 http://www.ukaps.org/index.php?page=setting-up-a-higher-tech-planted-tank
 
 Once  finish  setting  up  your  tank  next  thing  is  fertilizing  your  plants  
 
 there  are  two  types  of  fertilizer  your  plant  requires  MACROS  and  MICROS,  below  is  the  link  to  understand  better
 
 http://www.aquariumadvice.com/introduction-fertilizing-planted-tank/
 
 Dosing  can  be  done  by  below  methods.
 
 1)  EI  Dosing  -  most  of  the  hobbyist  used  this  method
 
 2)  PPS-Pro
 
 3)PMDD
   
 
 Sorry  for  too  many  links  can't  type  all  so  gave  the  links.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Hi  Murali
 
 Welcome  to  IAH,  I  am  also  new  to  this  hobby,  but  as  I  understand  Bigger  is  always  better.i  am  agree  with  Nidhi  and  Andrew
 
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 Hi  Srinidhi,  Vivian  &  Sudhir   Thanks  for  overwhelming  response  Smile  .  Now  I'm  gaining  confidence  to  start  with  a  big  tank.   
 
 Due  to  budget  constraints  I  can't  directly  jump  into  a  high-tech  planted  tank.  So  planning  to  start  with  fish  only  tank  or  minimal  plants(  I  mean  basic  plants)  with  construction  sand  as  substrate.
 
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 Yes,  that's  always  better..
 Set  up  the  sand  substrate,  decorate  with  some  hardware  like  rocks  and  driftwood.  Get  the  filters  and  start  the  nitrogen  cycling..  In  the  mean  time  you  can  decide  on  the  fishes  while  the  tank  cycles.
 The  construction  sand  must  the  washed  thoroughly  before  it  can  used  in  the  aquarium.  and  keep  it  a  max  of  1  inch  thick  layer.
 Don't  compromise  on  the  filters,  this  alone  is  the  deciding  factor  for  the  health  of  the  fishes.  Buy  at  least  one  canister  of  1500lts/hr  and  another  can  be  a  internal  power  filter.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Hi  Murali   Cheer  
 Welcome  to  IAH
 I  am  new  just  like  you  Cheering  
 dont  forget  to  post  pics  of  your  planted  tank  i  wanna  see  some  pics
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

                                                   
nicks  wrote  (View  Post):                
Hi  Murali   Cheer  
 Welcome  to  IAH
 I  am  new  just  like  you  Cheering  
 dont  forget  to  post  pics  of  your  planted  tank  i  wanna  see  some  pics
   Thumb Up  
 regards                

 
 Thank  you  Nicks  Smile  
 
 One  more  question.  Is  sump  type  of  filtration  is  good  or  canister  filter  is  good  for  a  planted  tank?  Please  share  your  experience
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Hi All New to this forum - Advice needed Reply with quote

 Murali,
 Both  have  there  merits  and  negatives..
 In  terms  of  filtration  both  are  good,  But  you  need  lot  of  DIY  skills  to  go  for  a  sump.  Where  as  Canisters  are  plug  and  play  kind  of  thing,
 Sumps  can  be  customized  as  per  your  requirement  and  budget,  generally  they  are  built  for  huge  tanks  like  4  feet  and  above.
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