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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:03 pm Post subject: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 
 Please  help  me  fix  this  algae  problem.
 
 There  are  different  types  of  algae  in  the  three  pics..  bottom  of  the  Crypt  stem  has  green  (pic  1)..  the  Crypt  leaves  have  dirt  like  fibers  (pic  2)  ..  the  Anubias  leaves  have  thick  layer  of  green  algae  (pic  3)..  Thanks  all  in  advance..
 
 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154436894593709&set=pcb.925304757518721&type=3&theater
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Looks  like  fuzz  algae.  How  is  the  flow  in  the  tank?  Please  also  specify  photoperiod  and  water  change  schedule  etc.  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 You  can  start  off  by  doing  50%  water  changes  every  alternate  day.  Reduce  the  photo  period  and  intensity.  Giving  more  details  about  the  tank  dimensions,  lighting  and  WC  schedule,  feeding  habits  and  the  fishes  would  get  you  a  better  answer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Get  the  plants  to  be  healthy.  Algae  problem  will  be  automatically  reduced,  if  not  solved.  Your  tank  needs  better  dedicated  light,  zero  sunlight,  good  source  of  carbon  in  whatever  form  and  good  fertilizer.  If  they  grow  well  algae  will  have  no  chance.  If  not,  no  matter  how  much  water  changes  you  make  this  problem  will  remain.  Changing  water  every  day  or  even  every  alternate  day  is  not  a  viable  or  feasible  idea.  Might  as  well  pick  up  some  other  hobby.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Wow.  Way  to  scare  off  the  new  guy  trying  to  get  some  plants  growing.  
 I  think  we  all  forget  the  hard  times  we  had.
 While  there  is  definitely  good  information,  it's  either  laced  with  sarcasm  or  requires  some  more  obscure  terms  (at  least  to  a  new  guy).
 
 May  we  request  the  moderators  to  create  a  sticky  with  the  following  pieces  of  info  being  requested  from  anyone  posting  queries  about  dealing  with  algae  -
 
 Type  of  light  
 Wattage
 Duration  of  lighting
 Any  sunlight
 
 Substrate
 Fertilisation  schedule
 Pressurised  or  diy  CO2
 Liquid  carbon  or  gluteraldehyde  
 
 Planting  density
 Water  change  schedule
 Feeding  schedule
 
 For  Vikram,  temporarily  overdosing  glut  or  excel  to  2.5  times  would  have  helped.  But  with  caution  and  after  looking  at  the  condition  of  the  fishes.  Unfortunately  the  crypts  are  going  to  melt.  
 
 My  apologies,  but  there  is  no  quick  fix  to  the  situation.  
 Thanks,  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Preets,  Brojo  &  Khandar,  your  replies  are  much  appreciated.  Wish  I  could  have  responded  earlier,  but  was  occupied  with  something  else.
 
 Will  algae  eating  fish  like  Otocinclus  help?
 
 Type  of  light  :  Using  Osram  LED  lights.
 Wattage  :  3X  10W
 Duration  of  lighting  :  7  hours
 Any  sunlight  :  No  direct  sunlight.
 
 Substrate  :  Just  plain  gravel.
 Fertilisation  schedule  :  Weekly  once.  Macronutrients  5ml  followed  by  Micro'  5ml,  the  next  day,  after  lights  off.
 Pressurised  or  diy  CO2  :  None
 Liquid  carbon  or  gluteraldehyde  :  No.  Planning  to  get  soon,  but  glute  worries  me,  as  I  have  neon  tetras.
 
 Planting  density  :  Abt  half  surface,  medium  density
 Water  change  schedule  :  Weekly  once.  15%
 Feeding  schedule  :  Flake  food,  blood  worms.  Twice  daily.
 Fish  load:  Neon  Tetra  -  20.  Red  eye  tetra:  12,  Blue  Rainbow  fish:  4,  Yoyoloach:  1,  Snail  1,  Honey  Gourami  1.
 Water  column  size  in  the  tank:  36*18*18  (50  Gallon).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Hi  Vikram..
 As  already  mentioned,  healthy  plants  =  no  algae..  so  lets  try  to  solve  the  issue  related  to  healthy  plant  growth..
 First  the  lighting  level  is  too  low  I  guess..  can  you  eloborate  on  the  specs  of  led  and  driver  used.  you  may  have  to  add  more  LED.
 If  you  provide  the  LED  specs  and  driver  specs  I  can  tell  you  how  many  more  is  required.  
 whats  the  macro  and  micro  formula  you  are  using..  because  that  too  seems  to  be  on  the  lower  side..
 What  filter  are  you  using..
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Hi  Nidhi,
 
 Following  are  the  details  of  the  LEDs  I'm  using.
 It  is  3  Osram  LED  bulbs.  6500K,  50/60Hz,  10W,  48mA  is  what  it  says.  
 
 Water  column  is  35"  (L)  X  17"  (W)  X  17"  (H).  43.8  Gallon  to  be  precise.
 Filter  is  just  a  600L/hr  power  head  with  a  top  box.  Only  sponge  as  media.
 
 The  Micro  and  Macro  nutrients  were  procured  from  a  local  vendor  who  makes  them  himself,  but  is  knowledgeable.  Smile  .  Dosage  suggested  by  him  was  5ml  a  week  after  lights  off,  micro  and   macro  on  different  days.
 
 I  procured  Gluteraldehyde  and  started  dosing  today.  My  vendor  advised  to  dose  at  3ml  /  day  just  before  lights  go  on.
 
 Hope  this  info  is  enough  for  you  to  suggest  fixes  for  the  problem.  
 
 Thanks  in  advance,
 Vikram.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Till  you  have  sterile  substrate,  you  will  lose  your  Crypts.  Crypts  are  predominantly  root  feeders.
 Secondly  you  have  got  slow  growing  plants,  and  your  fertilizer  regimen  is  very  high.  So  your  waterbody  is  loaded  with  nutrients  encouraging  the  growth  of  algae.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Vikram,
 With  out  the  lumens  rating,  we  just  cant  figure  out  whether  your  lighting  is  sufficient  or  not..
 We  are  in  the  dark  related  to  your  fertilizer  as  well,  we  don't  know  whether  your  over  dosing  or  under  dosing  your  tank..
 Top  filters  don't  aid  in  water  circulation,  suggesting  to  add  at  least  one  more  internal  filter  for  better  circulation..
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 I  agree  with  Rasiknayak,  you  have  slow  growing  plants.  Crypts  need  good  substrate  as  they  are  heavy  root  feeders.
 I  think  you  will  have  to  change  your  substrate,  a  sterile  substrate  is  not  good  in  a  planted  tank,  unless  you  have  all  water  column  feeders  like  anubias.
 You  can  switch  java  ferns  with  Crypts.  
 Till  then  you  can  stop  fertilization,  a  monthly  fertilization  and  weekly  water  change  should  be  enough  for  this  tank.  Water  change  also  brings  in  fresh  nutrients.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Algae on leaves, stems Reply with quote

 Sandeep,Rasikanayak,
 
 Thanks  for  the  useful  information!  I  moved  the  crypts  into  a  tub,  with  soil  at  the  bottom,  covered  with  gravel.  It's  been  4  days.  Everything  seems  fine.
 
 I  got  a  couple  of  Chinese  workers  and  the  algae  is  almost  gone.  The  Chinese  algae  eaters  are  doing  a  fine  job  (could  not  find  siamese  ones  in  Hyderabad).  Rock On  I  understand  that  as  they  grow,  they'll  not  eat  much  algae  and  become  aggressive.
 
 Will  reduce  the  frequency  of  dosing  ferts  and  do  some  trial  and  error  for  a  few  weeks.
 
 Nidhi,
 I  couldn't  find  the  lumens  info  :(
 
 Tank  is  doing  fine  for  now.  Have  to  wait  and  watch  how  it  goes  from  here.
 
 Thanks  all  you  people  for  the  info'  and  suggestions,
 Vikram.
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 Dear  Vikram,
 Apologies  for  the  silence  in  the  middle.  
 Great  news  on  the  Chinese  algae  eaters!
 I  will  keep  that  in  mind.
 
 In  case  I  have  missed  this  in  the  previous  posts,  what  type  of  plants  do  you  have?
 
 Thanks,  
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 Hi  Khandar,
 
 no  issues   Smile  .  I  currently  have  Vals,   Hygrophila  corymbosa,  crypts  and  java  moss.
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