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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:03 am Post subject: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 Hi
 
 I  want  to  try  dirt  tank  setup.  Can  anyone  please  suggest  what  potting  soil  do  they  use  in  India?  I  don't  think  Miracle  Pro  Gro  is  available  in  India.  
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 use  red  soil  from  natural  sources  .  it  shouldn't  contain  any  fertilizers  and  any  other  additives  .
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 1:37 am Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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use  red  soil  from  natural  sources  .  it  shouldn't  contain  any  fertilizers  and  any  other  additives  .                

 
 Thanks  for  the  input.  Do  i  need  to  add  anything  to  it  like  muriate  of  potash  or  cocopeat  to  it?
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 Hi,  
 Here  is  all  you  need,  I  had  a  tank  personally  with  dirt  and  maintained  it  stable  for  around  two  years.
 1.  Add  red  soil  and  clay  soil  (black  to  darkbrown),  clay  soil  can  be  optional  if  you  can  get  it.
 2.  mix  coca  peat  to  it.
 3.  Add  vermicompost  as  fertilizer.
 4.  top  coat  it  with  gravel.
 
 Preparing  the  red  soil  and  clay  soil  clay  usually  in  nature  plants  grows  in  clay  and  sand  beds.  wash  them  clean  multiple  times,  even  after  100  times  of  washing  they  still  will  clog  the  water  but  still  do  multiple  wash  don't  over  do  washing  as  it  will  remove  the  fertility  of  soil,  then  DE-mineralize  the  soil  you  have  to  soak  the  soil  in  water  and  then  dry  it  do  this  repeatedly  for  around  2-3  weeks.  that  done  side  by  side  do  the  same  with  coca  peat,  you  can  use  vermicolite  or  perlite  instead  of  coca  peat  but  they  were  never  in  reach  to  me  so  best  option  for  me  was  cocapeat.  mix  all  when  dried  i  used  60-40  ration  of  soil  and  cocapeat.  add  very  little  vermicompost  again  caution  "very  little"  like  two  to  three  hands  for  10-15  kg  of  soil  it  should  be  place  at  bottom  of  the  tank  then  put  soil  above  it.  since  the  vermiconpost  is  organic  it  will  decompose  soon  if  you  have  dense  plant  it  is  fine  else  add  very  little.  if  the  tank  size  is  small  do'not  add  at  all.  add  the  gravel  above  soil.  Soil  should  be  1-2  inch  and  gravel  should  be  1-1.5  inch.
 as  far  as  i  know  this  is  the  best  soil  than  any  other  commercial  soil  because  it  will  not  loose  its  fertility  for  years  I  haven't  used  any  commercial  soil  but  heared  it  will  loose  fertility  over  years,  you  never  need  fertilizers  i  never  have  used  it  once  since  clay  is  high  in  CEC  it  will  get  fertilized  by  fish  poop,  any  plant  you  name  it  will  grow  in  it.  and  yet  you  have  the  following  disadvantages,  you  cannot  grow  foreground  carpet  like  thick  carpet  even  with  fertilizer  since  roots  have  to  penetrate  and  reach  soil,  you  cannot  expect  very  dense  plant  growth,  you  can  never  rescape  completely  without  redoing  everything  again  and  uprooting  caused  some  water  clog,  no  earth  digging  creature  in  tank,  soil  will  tighten  in  time,should  be  very  causious  on  water  filling  on  any  planting  lately,  only  flat  scapes  possibe  but  you  can  make  it  look  like  curvature  scape  by  proper  trimming  of  plant.  but  if  you  need  lush  growth  you  can  use  dry  fertilizer.  once  you  have  used  a  base  fertilizer  toped  it  with  sand  and  cocapeat  and  then  gravel  ,then  plant  all  your  plants  using  tweezer  ,then  slowly  using  some  cup  fill  water   inside  the  cup  so  the  water  overflows  from  the  cup  without  disturbing  the  soil.  once  filled  you  will  be  able  to  see  nothing  Smile  yes  water  will  be  completely  clogged  do  water  changes  for  a  week  50%  without  disturbing  the  substrate,  use  a  good  filter,  by  a  week  you  can  see  crystal  clear  tank.  then  you  can  wait  a  week  if  you  have  patience  to  introduce  fish.
 
 sorry  for  such  a  lengthy  description  someone  might  be  needing  this  information,  as  i  was  once.  will  share  my  tank  pics  if  possible.  I  am  not  owning  one  now  though  right  now,  but  yes  this  will  be  a  good  poor-mans  setup.  
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 I  agree  with  arun-
 
 well  this  is  for  2feet  tank
 
 
 I  also  have  a  very  good  mix.  Take  atleast  5kg  of  garden  mud  and  6  bananas.  mix  the  bananas  with  skin  to  the  soil  and  make  a  dough.  Let  it  dry  hard  in  the  sun.  make  fine  soil  by  spewing  and  add  it  to  the  tank,  top  it  up  with  river  gravel.  you  will  get  lush  green  tank  in  8  weeks.  You  can  practically  grow  anything  in  that  tank.  
 
 But  a  little  algae  will  grow  below  the  gravel  and  you  will  require  a  DIY  CO2.  but  any  carpet  will  grow  like  hell-  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 This  is  the  sample
 
 
   Very Happy  
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=34714&start=0DIRT  TANK
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  guys  for  the  reply.  I  will  give  it  a  try  in  my  2ft  tank  along  with  DIY  CO2.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 One  question  though...how  does  banana  help?  Very  interesting  though.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 Read  about  Bananas  added  to  soil,  for  Marco  NEUTRIENTS  Smile  and  you  need  not  add  any  fertilisers  for  a  long  time.  
 
 Nicely  strain  the  soil  to  powder  level.  
 
 then  add  bananas  mashed.  make  a  dough  and  let  it  dry  like  stone  hard.  
 
 Crush  the  soil  and  spread  to  the  bottom  layer  of  the  tank,  cover  it  with  1.5  inch  or  more  river  gravel,
 
 Best  part  is.....the  stem  of  plants  will  be  realy  thick  and  strong,  
 
 red  colour  plants  will  show  a  little  brown  or  maroon  colour,  
 
 the  leaves  of  Lily  plants  will  be  large  and  thick  skinned  and  look  like  leather  :D
 
 I  don't  remember  very  sharply,  the  above  tank  did  not  even  have  co2  also.  its  was  simple.  I  will  post  more  pictures  later
 
 Grass  will  spread  very  fast,  
 
 the  green  colour  (chlorophyll)  will  be  realy  dazzeling  lush  green.
 
 The  fertilizer  release  will  be  slow  at  first  few  weeks,  but  after  3   or  4  weeks  when  your  tank  sets,  see  the  magic.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 The  Gree  Lily  in  banana  soil  tank
 
 
 The  Brown  Red  lily  in  Banana  Soil  Tank
 
 
 The  whole  tank
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 It  seems  Monkeys  nearby  your  house  will  no  longer  have  a  shortage  of  their  favorite  food   ROFL
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for dirt tank Reply with quote

 Awesome  Garothmaan...  Clapping  
 
 
 Definitely  will  give  it  a  try....  Smile
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It  seems  Monkeys  nearby  your  house  will  no  longer  have  a  shortage  of  their  favorite  food   ROFL                

 
 Wait  for  a  few  weeks,  I  am  starting  a  Nano  tank,  I  will  post  pictures  of  a  complete  process.
 
   Chuckle  4  to  5  bananas  for  mixing  .....  versus  the  word  "MONKEYS"  is  too  childish  to  write
 
   ROFL  unless  you  have  a  whole  group  of  them
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 Hello  Guys,  I  am  also  planning  to  dirt  my  tank  (36x15x18)  but  not  able  to  find  the  right  soil  here  in  Bangalore.  Would  organic  potting  soil  work  for  this  and  will  add  a  layer  of  clay  based  substrate  on  top  of  it.  I  got  the  below  potting  soil  but  see  Sulphur,  copper  in  there.  will  they  be  harmful  for  the  tank?
 
 Potting  soil
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 Both  have  fertilizer,  it  will  not  be  suitable  for  aquariums.
 
 Buy  red  soil,  you  can  get  it  in  any  plant  nursery
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