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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Friends,
 
 I've  a  30"  *  9"  *  9"  tank  which  is  empty  as  of  now,  have  2-3  female  bettas  in  it.   Thinking  of  going  for  a  low-tech  planted  tank  with  Neon  Tetras  and  few  guppies.
 
 My  plan  is  to  go  for  a  substrate  for  about  3",  I've  gravel  of  2-3  mm  size  which  is  free  of  any  sea  shells.   I'll  mix  this  with  some  finely  broken  laterite  brikcs.   Will  this  do?  or  I've  to  change  my  plans?
 
 This  tank  has  a  top  with  2  X  20W  CLL  lights  installed.   I'm  planning  for  some  grass  and  plants  that  will  not  grow  tall,  as  my  tank  height  is  only  9"  and  I  lose  3"  for  gravel...  am  left  with  only  5"  of  water  space,  considering  I'll  not  fill  water  till  the  top.   Please  suggest  me  some  plants.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Hi,
   I  would  not  go  with  broken  laterite  bricks,  Rather  i  suppose  good  potty  clay  soil  should  be  available  and  i  would  go  with  that.  
 
 Varieties  of  Anubias  and  Cryptocoryne   Vallisneria  americana  'Mini  twister'  with  a  good  carpet  of  Hemianthus  callitrichoides  Cuba  in  front  would  look  great.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Mosses,  java  fern,  will  look  nice  inthis  tank.
 Create  a  moss  lawn  in  whole  base  of  tank,  along  with  neons  it  will  look  stunning.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
sandeepraghuvanshi  wrote  (View  Post):                
Mosses,  java  fern,  will  look  nice  inthis  tank.
 Create  a  moss  lawn  in  whole  base  of  tank,  along  with  neons  it  will  look  stunning.                

 How  do  we  create  a  moss  lawn?   Sorry,  am  going  lazy  here...  guess  it  was  discussed  earlier  in  IAH...
 
 Heard  it  is  tough  to  keep  them  as  a  lawn  for  a  longer  period..  .is  that  so?   Also  I've  no  plans  to  use  any  fertilizer  for  this  tank,  guess  that  will  do.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Take  a  platic  mesh,  insert  vaccum  clamps,  spread  moss  on  the  surface,  cover  with  second  piece  of  mesh.
 Stick  it  to  the  bottom  with  vaccoum  stoppers.
 Just  like  a  moss  wall,  only  stick  it  to  the  bottom  instead  of  wall.
 I  have  seen  picture  of  such  a  tank  on  the  net,  only  I  can't  find  it  now.  It   had  only  moss  lawn  and  neons  and  I  have  started  collecting  material  for  it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Hey,  Moss  are  really  messy,  They  tend  to  clog  my  external  filter's  inlet  too  often,  I  had  2  layers  of  net  on  the  moss  and  had  tied  it  to  drift  wood,  But  the  moss  that  has  grown  comes  out  of  net  and  gets  stuck  in  the  filters  inlet......
 Hence  now  i  am  looking  at  cuba  for  creating  the  carpet.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hey,  Moss  are  really  messy,  They  tend  to  clog  my  external  filter's  inlet  too  often,  I  had  2  layers  of  net  on  the  moss  and  had  tied  it  to  drift  wood,  But  the  moss  that  has  grown  comes  out  of  net  and  gets  stuck  in  the  filters  inlet......
 Hence  now  i  am  looking  at  cuba  for  creating  the  carpet.
 Raghu                
 
 Mosses  are  not  meant  for  areas  with  very  high  water  flow  rates/suction.  they  do  best  with  gentle  circulation.  Also  bottom  fishes  like  pleco,  corydos  etc.  create  a  mess  in  moss  tanks.
 Even  power  filters  are  too  much  for  them,  gentle  sponge  filters  seem  to  work  in  my  tanks
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Friends,
 
 I've  a  30"  *  9"  *  9"  tank  which  is  empty  as  of  now,  have  2-3  female  bettas  in  it.  Â Thinking  of  going  for  a  low-tech  planted  tank  with  Neon  Tetras  and  few  guppies.
 
 My  plan  is  to  go  for  a  substrate  for  about  3",  I've  gravel  of  2-3  mm  size  which  is  free  of  any  sea  shells.  Â I'll  mix  this  with  some  finely  broken  laterite  brikcs.  Â Will  this  do?  or  I've  to  change  my  plans?
 
 This  tank  has  a  top  with  2  X  20W  CLL  lights  installed.  Â I'm  planning  for  some  grass  and  plants  that  will  not  grow  tall,  as  my  tank  height  is  only  9"  and  I  lose  3"  for  gravel...  am  left  with  only  5"  of  water  space,  considering  I'll  not  fill  water  till  the  top.  Â Please  suggest  me  some  plants.                

 
 Your's  is  a  low  tech  tank  with  what  you  presently  have.
 I  suggest  you  go  for  cryptocoryne  sp.  Anubia,  Java  ferns.
 You  cannot  go  for  a  moss  lawn  with  your  present  set  up.  
 Which  moss  are  you  guys  suggesting  for  a  lawn  in  a  low  tech  tank??
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Your's  is  a  low  tech  tank  with  what  you  presently  have.
 I  suggest  you  go  for  cryptocoryne  sp.  Anubia,  Java  ferns.
 You  cannot  go  for  a  moss  lawn  with  your  present  set  up.  
 Which  moss  are  you  guys  suggesting  for  a  lawn  in  a  low  tech  tank??                

 The  setup  I  had  seen  was  a  java  moss  thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Hi  Trevor,
   I  would  live  with  Cuba  for  the  carpet,  If  its  external  filter  with  low  current,  And  the  lawn  is  away  from  the  filters  inlet  and  outlet,  Certainly  not  moss.
 And  all  the  way  no  carpet  if  its  power  head.
 
 Sandeep
 I  suppose  my  external  filter  is  as  low  in  creating  a  current  as  one  can  think  of.  Much  lower  i  would  say  compared  to  sponge.
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 What  is  the  requirements  for  "Hemianthus  callitrichoides  Cuba"?
 
 Is  it  a  easy  to  grow  plant??
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Check  out  these  for  low  light  tanks
 http://www.plantgeek.net/forum/album_cat.php?cat_id=4
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Even  though  mosses  don't  demand  strong  lighting,  they  do  need  CO2.   Without  a  good  CO2  source  a  moss-lawn  is  almost  impossible.
 IMO,  E.quadricostatus  &  E.tennelus  make  perfect  low-tec  lawns;  undemanding  &  pretty  hardy.   Also  a  sponge  filter  won't  help  a  planted  tank  as  it  would  drive  away  most  of  the  dissolved  CO2.   Best  would  be  a  low  turn  out  power  filter.   Crushed  brick  will  not  serve  as  a  substrate.   Laterite  should  be  available  at  all  garden  stores.
 1.5-2W  lighting  and  dosing  only  on  signs  of  defeciency  with  undemanding  plants  is  all  a  low-tec  tank  needs.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a Low-Tech Planted tank Reply with quote

 Could  someone  give  profile  /  image  link  to  these  two  -  E.quadricostatus  &  E.tennelus
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 Tennelus
 http://www.tropica.dk/default.asp
 E.quadricostatus
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