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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: What natives you have? Reply with quote

 Horabagrus  brachyurus
 Oryzias  sp.  (dancena  or  carnaticus?  -  melastigma  is  probabaly  not  valid)
 Channa  gachua
 
 I  must  say  that  I  am  really  impressed  by  the  knowledge  expressed  by  the  members  in  this  forum!
 
 
                                                 
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 No  Sandeep,
 Botia  almorhae  and  Botia  lochata  are  the  same  names  for  YoYo  Loach.
 Rani  or  Queen  loaches  are  Botia  dario.  (experts  correct  me  if  I  am  wrong).                

 
 Botia  almorhae  and  Botia  lohachata  may  well  be  synonyms,  but  as  far  as  I  know  nobody  has  shown  that  they  really  are.  Maybe  any  of  you  have  some  firsthand  information?
 
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 H.  brachyurus??  Did  you  mean  H.  brachysoma??
 
 O.  melastigma  is  now  O.  dancena.
 
 The  almorhae  vs  lohachata  debate  has  been  going  on  for  quite  a  bit...  what  settles  it  for  me  is  no  one  has  been  able  to  show  they  are  different  Wink
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H.  brachyurus??  Did  you  mean  H.  brachysoma??
 
 O.  melastigma  is  now  O.  dancena.
 
 The  almorhae  vs  lohachata  debate  has  been  going  on  for  quite  a  bit...  what  settles  it  for  me  is  no  one  has  been  able  to  show  they  are  different  Wink                

 
 Yes,  of  course,  H.  brachysoma.  Sorry!
 
 O.  melastigma  is  a  synonym  of  Aplocheilus  panchax.  I  know  the  description  of  O  melastigma  is  odd,  but  I  think  Tyson  Roberts  is  right  in  this  case.  I  will  have  to  kill  one  of  my  Oryzias  to  identify  it  properly,  but  I  don't  find  it  urgent...
 
 To  solve  the  Botia  case  there  is  a  need  for  fresh  preserved  ADULT  specimens  from  both  type  localities.  Preferably  also  of  Botia  birdi.  The  type  specimens  of  B.  almorhae  is  in  bad  condition.  Maybe  there  are  good  specimens  in  the  ZSI  collection,  but  that  collection  catalogue  (or  both  -  Kolkata  and  Chennai)  it  is  not  online  yet.  There  is  also  a  need  for  someone  to  do  it.  I  am  not  a  specialist.
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 The  only  thing  bugging  me  about  the  Oryzias  reclassification  is  the  type  specimens  of  both  dancena  and  carnaticus  are  from  Bangladesh...  I  wouldn't  be  surprised  if  fish  from  s  India  look  somewhat  different.
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 Here  is  my  list  -  
 
 P  Gelius
 P  Fasciatus  (Melon  barb)  but  not  sure  if  this  is  the  correct  name
 and  the  goood  old  Rosy  barb  and  zebra  danios
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 Hi  Folks,
   Request  you  all  to  post  pics  of  those,  As  one  might  be  benifited  from  it  at  a  later  point  of  time.  
 
 Like  this  way  it  would  have  been  easy  for  me  to  ID  them  by  their  names  if  they  are  similar  to  the  ones  that  i  saw  them  or  they  were  new  ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: What natives you have? Reply with quote

 Yes  i  second  rgg  Smile  for  instance  i  did  a  search  for  P.fasciatus  and  look  what  i  got  Chuckle  
 http://www.gekkota.com/html/p__fasciatus.html
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 Look  for  Puntius  fasciatus
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 I  have  both  Puntius  Fasciatus  and  Puntius  Melanampyx
 
 Yes.  i  will  post  the  pics  soon.
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 Any  experience  /  ever  seen  FW  sole  and  FW  sting  rays  from  our  lake  Chilka?  Post  some  pics  if  you  come  across  any.
 
 Never  ever  heard  of  the  above!
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 The  FW  soles  you  see  are  brackish  water  fish.  They  do  not  live  long  if  kept  in  FW.
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 TY  Rahul.  Can  you  post  some  pics  of  those  soles,  sply  from  Chilka?  And  does  Chilka  have  a  brackish  connection  anywhere?  Am  told  that  these  are  from  the  same  lake.  Just  needed  concrete  info  from  you  people.  
 
 Also  said  is  the  Dragonet  shaped  'Antenata  Fish',  one  with  a  long  dorsal  fin  is  also  netted  from  the  same  place  where  the  soles  and  rays  are  collected.  Have  seen  those  antenatas  before.  Hence  curious...
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 Some  collection   barbs:
 Arulius  and  Tambraparei  wild,  Balantiocheilus  melanopterus  wild,  Barilioides  wild,   Callipterus  wild,  Cf.Callipterus  RED,  Conchonius  wild,  Conchonius  HIGH  FIN,  Conchonius  NEON  GOLD,  Conchonius  NEON  Green,  Congicus  wild,  Denisonii  wild,  Eugrammus  wild,  Fasciatus  YELLOW  wild,  Fasciatus  wild,  Filamentosus,  Gelius  wild,  Gracilis  wild,  Hexazona  wild,  Holotaenia  wild,  Jae  wild,  Leptobarbus  hoevenii  wild,  Lineatus,  Lateristriga  (T-Barb)  (  2  line  â€“wild  and  1-  no  wild),  Melanamphyx  wild,  Melon  barb  wild,  Nigrofasciatus  wild  and  no  wild,  Odessa  wild,  Octozona  wild,  Oligolepis  wild,  Oreichthys  cosuatis  wild,  Oreichthys  sp.HIGH  FIN,  Osteobrama  Zebra  wild  (small  Indian  carp),   Partipentazona  wild,  Phutunio  wild,  Rhomboocellatus  wild,   Sachsi  wild,  Schuberti,     Schwanefeldi   GOLD,  Schwanefeldi   wild  (  silver),  Semifasciolatus,  Stoliczkanus  MOSS  RED  and  Stoliczkanus  wild,  Systomus  (aurotaeniatus)  wild,  Tetrazona  ALBINO,  Tetrazona  wild,  Tetrazona  diamond,  Tetrazona  GOLD,  Tetrazona  var.GREEN,  Ticto,  Titteya  wild.
 
 Special  collection  American  cichlids  :
 Heros  Nonatus  Guyana  (wild),  Heros  Severum  Green,  Heros  Severum  Gold,  Heros  sp   Red  Spot  Santarem  (wild),  Heros  sp  Inirida  (wild),  Heros  sp  Rotkeil  (Red  Shoulder,  Efasciatus)  (wild  and  from  Singapur).
 Other  fishes:   Acarichthys   heckelii,  Geophagus  sp.TAPAJOS  I,  Heros  octofasciatus.  Archocentrus  nigrofasciatus.   Archocentrus  sajica,  Discus  Red  Turquoise  and   Pigeon  Blood,  Angelfish,   Osteoglossum  Bicirrhosum,  Siamese  flying  fox,  Siamese  Algae  Eater,  Astronotus  ocellatus
 One  tank:  Gymnocorymbus  ternetzi,  Xiphophorus  helleri,   Paracheirodon  innesi,Danio  rerio,  Poecilia  latipina  and  P.  velifera,   Prionobrama  filigera   and  other.   
 Many  Cat-fish  :  Ancistrus  multispinnis,  Ancistrus  albinos,   Otocinclus  affinis,   Mystus  tengara,   Corydoras  paleatus,  Synodontis  nigriventris,  Hoplosternum  thoracatum,  Pterygoplichthys  gibbiceps  ,  Clarias  batrachus   and  other.
 And  favourite  fishes  of  my  daughter   â€“  one  pair  Oranda  Red  CaÑ€.Smile
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TY  Rahul.  Can  you  post  some  pics  of  those  soles,  sply  from  Chilka?  And  does  Chilka  have  a  brackish  connection  anywhere?  Am  told  that  these  are  from  the  same  lake.  Just  needed  concrete  info  from  you  people.  
 
 Also  said  is  the  Dragonet  shaped  'Antenata  Fish',  one  with  a  long  dorsal  fin  is  also  netted  from  the  same  place  where  the  soles  and  rays  are  collected.  Have  seen  those  antenatas  before.  Hence  curious...                

 
 There  are  4  species  from  Chilka,  Brachirus  orientalis,  Solea  ovata,  Cynoglossus  lingua  and  Cynoglossus  puncticeps.  I  think  the  fish  in  the  trade  is  one  of  the  Cynoglossus  sp.  Google  Images  has  all  of  them  listed.
 
 If  I  remember  my  geography  correctly,  Chilka  is  connected  to  the  Bay  of  Bengal  on  the  East,  with  the  Mahanadi  river  draining  into  the  western  end.
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Also  said  is  the  Dragonet  shaped  'Antenata  Fish',  one  with  a  long  dorsal  fin  is  also  netted  from  the  same  place  where  the  soles  and  rays  are  collected.  Have  seen  those  antenatas  before.  Hence  curious...                

 
 Are  you  referring  to  Sillaginopsis  panijus  ?
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