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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:29 pm Post subject: New Member from Coimbatore - Help reqd. in new Biotope setup Reply with quote

 Hello  Aquarists,
                                    This  is  Ram  from  Coimbatore  and  planning  to  venture  into  the  world  of  aquarists  and  aquariums.  This  is  going  to  be  my  first  set-up.  Initially,  I  was  planning  for  a  planted  tank  and  as  I  did  more  and  more  research,  I  was  wrong  about  being  easy  for  a  beginner.  So,  dropped  the  idea  and  planning  for  a  Blackwater  Amazon  Biotope
 
 I  have  to  start  from  scratch  and  pls.  correct  me  wherever  I'm  wrong;
 
 1.  Tank  -  3x2x1.5  feet  8mm  Glass  without  lid  (Suggestions  Welcome)
 2.  Lights  -  Sunsun  ADE  700  or  Equivalent
 3.  Bogwood  from  Local  aquariums
 4.  Play  sand  as  substrate
 5.  Dried  Almond  leaves,  almond  twigs  and  guava  leaves  for  tannins
 6.  Canister  filter  -  Need  recommendation
 7.  Live  Stocks  once  water  gets  recycled  will  be  Neon  tetra  schools
 
 Pls.  let  me  know  if  I'm  missing  anything  here.
 
 Will  be  more  than  happy  to  correct  myself  rather  than  doing  the  wrong  way  as  this  is  my  first  set-up.
 
 Many  Thanks  -  Ram
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: New Member from Coimbatore - Help reqd. in new Biotope s Reply with quote

 Blackwater  tanks  are  somewhat  simpler  than  regular  planted  tanks  but  you  will  find  yourself  being  limited  in  terms  of  scapes  that  you  can  go  for.  Why  not  start  with  a  simple  low  tech?  Plants  like  anubias,  moss,  crypts  all  are  undemanding  and  look  uber  cool  in  smaller  tanks.
 
 Also,  the  sunsun  ADE  is  sure  shot  way  to  get  algae  in  your  tank.  It  is  quite  powerful,  and  can  easily  grow  medium  and  high  light  plants.  And  since  you  do  not  have  much  in  your  current  planning,  I  am  gonna  go  ahead  and  say  that  light  is  going  to  be  utilized  by  algae  only.  Also,  I  feel  blacklight  tanks  look  the  best  when  there  are  spot  beams  running  across  the  tank,  than  a  uniformly  lit  tank.  
 
 If  you'd  like  you  can  share  your  concerns  about  planted  tanks,  Im  sure  members  here  can  solve  them  and  help  you  out.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: New Member from Coimbatore - Help reqd. in new Biotope s Reply with quote

                                                   
ashwin1224  wrote  (View  Post):                
Blackwater  tanks  are  somewhat  simpler  than  regular  planted  tanks  but  you  will  find  yourself  being  limited  in  terms  of  scapes  that  you  can  go  for.  Why  not  start  with  a  simple  low  tech?  Plants  like  anubias,  moss,  crypts  all  are  undemanding  and  look  uber  cool  in  smaller  tanks.                

 
 Being  a  starter  I  wanted  something  that  should  be  relatively  simpler  to  maintain.  Once  the  livestock  starts  to  thrive,  I  can  graduate  to  planted  ones.  This  is  my  initial  plan.  Pls.  correct  me  if  I'm  wrong.
 
 
                                                 
ashwin1224  wrote  (View  Post):                
Also,  the  Sunsun  ADE  is  sure  shot  way  to  get  algae  in  your  tank.                

 I  know  algae  is  bad.  So  you're  saying  that  ADE  is  bad  for  the  purpose  intended?
 
 
                                                 
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 It  is  quite  powerful,  and  can  easily  grow  medium  and  high  light  plants.  And  since  you  do  not  have  much  in  your  current  planning,  I  am  gonna  go  ahead  and  say  that  light  is  going  to  be  utilized  by  algae  only.  Also,  I  feel  blacklight  tanks  look  the  best  when  there  are  spot  beams  running  across  the  tank,  than  a  uniformly  lit  tank.                  

 
 Everything  is  very  expensive  when  it  comes  to  planted  tanks,  right  from  the  substrate.  The  tank  size  I'm  looking  at  would  minimum  require  14-15  kgs  which  would  easily  set  me  back  by  4-5k,  then  add  the  filtration  and  stuff.  I'm  ready  to  spend  here,  but  again  the  results  and  the  level  of  knowledge  I  possess  with  them  is  a  bare  minimum.  Just  want  to  acquire  some  skills  before  taking  a  plunge.  correct  me  if  I'm  wrong  here  too.
 
 
                                                 
ashwin1224  wrote  (View  Post):                
If  you'd  like  you  can  share  your  concerns  about  planted  tanks,  I'm  sure  members  here  can  solve  them  and  help  you  out.  
 
 All  the  best  Thumb Up                

 
 Thanks  a  lot  Ashwin.  really  Appreciate..:-)
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: New Member from Coimbatore - Help reqd. in new Biotope s Reply with quote

 Welcome  to  the  hobby!
 
 If  you  want  to  do  the  hobby  on  a  budget,  DIY  everything!  From  substrate,  to  filters,  to  lighting,  everything  has  scope  for  DIY  techniques.  And  the  savings  are  real.  DIY  substrates  are  as  good  as  dedicated  planted  tank  substrates,  and  sometimes  even  better  than  the  mid  range  ones.  DIY  LED  units  have  long  proven  themselves  to  be  worth  their  salt.  With  the  advent  of  LED  bulbs  by  phillips,  I  struggle  to  find  the  need  to  go  for  a  dedicated  planted  tank  LED  unit.  The  convenience  is  astounding.  
 
 Ive  struggled  with  planted  tanks  for  a  long  time.  Some  tanks  are  a  hit,  others  just  end  up  being  algae  heavens.  Ive  realized  one  thing,  you  can  either  go  low  tech,  or  you  can  go  high  tech.  There  is  no  "mid  tech"  for  tanks.  In  my  personal  experience:
 
 Low  Tech:  
 i  Inert  substrate/semi  fertile  substrate
 ii  No  CO2
 iii  No  Fertilizer  dosing
 iv  Low-Medium  light  (between  80-120lumen/gallon)
 v  Strictly  6500k  Spectrum
 vi  Good  filtration  with  Carbon
 vii  Flora<Fauna
 viii  10-20%  WC  weekly
 

 High  Tech
 i  Fertile  Substrate
 ii  Pressurized  CO2/DIY  CO2  for  lower  end
 iii  Regular  Fertilizer  dosing
 iv  High  Light(close  to  150-200lumen/gallon)
 v  Varied  spectrum  of  light
 vi  External  Canister  filter,  often  running  a  variety  of  media
 vii  Jam  packed  with  plants,  fauna  just  being  ad-ons
 viii  Bi-weekly  20-30%  WC
 

 
 Ive  tried  going  hi-tech  but  budget  never  permits  more  than  a  nano,  so  I  tend  to  stick  to  low  techs.  Honestly,  they  seem  much  more  interesting  and  "Natural".
 
 With  a  blackwater  tank,  do  realize  its  chemistry  is  different  than  a  normal  tank.  It  is  going  to  have  quite  low  ph,  meaning  acidic  water.  This  limits  your  options  as  to  what  fish  will  survive  in  the  tank.  I  am  not  discouraging  you  from  going  for  a  blackwater  tank,  as  in  my  eyes  they  look  splendid  when  done  right,  but  a  planted  tank  is  not  at  all  difficult  even  for  beginners.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: New Member from Coimbatore - Help reqd. in new Biotope s Reply with quote

 Great  Ashwin  me  too  planning  for  a  low  tech  tank.  I  want  to  get  out  of  my  cardinal  breeding  failure.  Please  share  some  more  details  about  nano  tank.
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Great  Ashwin  me  too  planning  for  a  low  tech  tank.  I  want  to  get  out  of  my  cardinal  breeding  failure.  Please  share  some  more  details  about  nano  tank.                
 Cardinal  Breeding  failure?  Please  make  a  thread  about  it,  no  shame  in  admitting  failure.  Detailing  it  on  a  forum  post  almost  immortalizes  it  and  helps  other  learn  from  your  mistakes.
 
 And  I  would  suggest  making  a  thread  about  Nano  tanks  as  well,  since  plenty  of  information  is  available  online  it  wont  be  too  difficult  for  you  to  start.  If  you  find  yourself  stuck  with  anything,  feel  free  to  ask  Thumb Up
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alextvino  wrote  (View  Post):                
Great  Ashwin  me  too  planning  for  a  low  tech  tank.  I  want  to  get  out  of  my  cardinal  breeding  failure.  Please  share  some  more  details  about  nano  tank.                
 Cardinal  Breeding  failure?  Please  make  a  thread  about  it,  no  shame  in  admitting  failure.  Detailing  it  on  a  forum  post  almost  immortalizes  it  and  helps  other  learn  from  your  mistakes.
 
 And  I  would  suggest  making  a  thread  about  Nano  tanks  as  well,  since  plenty  of  information  is  available  online  it  wont  be  too  difficult  for  you  to  start.  If  you  find  yourself  stuck  with  anything,  feel  free  to  ask  Thumb Up                

 
 Thanks,  bro  will  do  it
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:16 am Post subject: Re: New Member from Coimbatore - Help reqd. in new Biotope s Reply with quote

 Good  luck  Ram  /  Alex  with  your  Hobby..  There  are  some  very  experienced  hobbyists  around  Coimbatore..  Reach  out  to  them  Suraj  (Nature  Lover)  Kiran  ,  Nitin  (Nytyn)  ...  
 
 Simple  recommendations
 
 1>  Opt  for  the  biggest  tank  that  you  can  Manage
 2>  Choose  Good  Quality  Hardware..Will  last  you  a  longer  time  than  cheaper  alternatives
 3>  Read  up  on  the  type  of  setup  you  want  to  build  and  ask  Questions  here..  Answers  will  come  ..Though  it  is  a  bit  slow  here  
 
 You  already  have  some  good  inputs  above..
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