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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 Hi  Nag,
 Nice  to  see  you  after  a  long  time,the  food  suggested  by  you  will  disintegrate   and  foul  the  water,does  higher  addition  of  binder  like  gum  avoid  this?and  at  what  quantity  of  gum  will  avoid  disintegration?
 I  have  been  making  gel  food  for  my  goldies  which  is  good  for  digestion  but  fouls  the  water  badly,any  suggestins  to  avoid  this?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 Wow  nag  
 
 u  hav  a  great  collection
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 Hi  Shishir:
 
 A  commercial  product  by  'Eagle'  company  is  available...like  'Gelatin'  which  you  can  use  for  binding  the  food...(Sorry,  I've  forgotten  the  name...  Sad  )
 
 For  500gms  of  food,  use  50gms  in  50ml  of  water...
 Boil  the  water  and  slowly  add  while  stirring...
 Allow  it  to  cook  for  2-3mins...and  allow  it  to  cool...
 Add  this  to  mixture  to  the  blender  while  final  preparation...
 
 Walla!...The  food  will  not  disintegrate  when  dropped  in  water...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 He  he!
 that  'walla'  is  so  nice  to  hear  after  a  long  time!
 well,  any  prepared  food  is  just  a  compromise  compared  to  live  feed  -  it  is  how  close  you  get  to  the  dietary  requirements  of  your  fish  that  makes  a  difference!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 True...
 
 The  reason  for  that  being  the  protein  quotient  present  in  'live'  food...
 So,  as  a  compensation  you  can  also  add  'Multi-Vitamins'  while  preparing  such  food...
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 Sorry  to  differ  there  but,  adding  vitamins  does  not  ensure  that  the  protein  level  of  the  feed  increases.........In  fact,  we  add  stabilized  vitamin  C  to  help  fish  in  digestion  but  the  source  of  protein  has  still  to  be  considered  from  either  animal  meat,  shrimps  etc.  or  some  vegge  source  like  soyabean,  spirulina  etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 The  fishes  i  have  are
 Mollies
 Angels
 Kohli  loach
 Albino  tiger
 Crocodile  fish
 Cat  fish
 Fighter
 Butterfly  shark(the  name  seller  told  me)
 
 Most  of  these  fishes  eat  dried  tubifex  but  many  do  not  take  to  dried  food  during  the  first  week  and  die.How  can  i  avoid  the  mortality.Further  due  to  this  i  cannot  try  buying  new  varities  or  the  costly  fishes  like  discus  which  I  very  much  want  to.Recently  I  bought  a  pair  of  featherfin  but  both  the  fishes  did  not  take  to  dried  tubifex  and  died
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 Hey!!!!
   On  the  dry  food  i  am  not  sure  as  to  why  do  you  want  to  limit  your  self  to  dry  tubifex.  Try  Tetra  Bits  if  you  want  to  go  that  far/   Hikari  sinking  pellets  or  wafers  also  is  a  great  choice..
 
 All  the  Mollies  Angels  Kohli  loach  Fighter  readily  take  these.  I  have  been  feeding  my  rainbows  only  this  and  believe  me  they  have  grown  really  big.  Note  that  i  got  them  when  they  were  an  inch  and  i  did  not  even  see  a  mortality.  
 
 Also  note  that  do  not  feed  them  a  signle  type  of  food  for  a  longer  time,  You  might  wanna  alter  the  food  habits  so  that  they  do  not  get  used  to  a  signle  catagory  of  food.
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

                                                   
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The  fishes  i  have  are
 Mollies
 Angels
 Kohli  loach
 Albino  tiger
 Crocodile  fish
 Cat  fish
 Fighter
 Butterfly  shark(the  name  seller  told  me)
 Most  of  these  fishes  eat  dried  tubifex  but  many  do  not  take  to  dried  food  during  the  first  week  and  die.How  can  i  avoid  the  mortality.Further  due  to  this  i  cannot  try  buying  new  varities  or  the  costly  fishes  like  discus  which  I  very  much  want  to.Recently  I  bought  a  pair  of  featherfin  but  both  the  fishes  did  not  take  to  dried  tubifex  and  died                

 
 The  fishes  might  not  be  dying  because  of  food.  There  must  be  something  else  wrong.  Fish  will  not  eat  if  they  are  stressed,  high  ammonia,  wrong  temp.  etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 Thanks  Raghu
 
 I  was   using  only  tubifex  because  it  is  cheap(15/-  per  pack).I  will  try  other  also  now.Among  Tetra  bits,sinking  pellets  etc.could  u  kindly  list  them  them  from  better  to  worse.
 
 As  for  fishes  dying  due  to  other  reasons  I  cannot  seem  to  identify  any  other  cause  because  the  surviving  fishes  are  in  good  health  and  grow.They  eat  regularly  and  swim  around  normally(the  tigers  seem  to  have  a  regular  running  competetion)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 BBXX,
   Give  us  more  details  of  your  tank,  Fish  load,  Accesories,  Filtration....  ,  I  suppose  i  can  then  suggest  what  might  well  suite  and  whats  going  wrong.  
 
 Note  that  reason  of  casuality  of  your  fish  might  not  be  related  to  Tubifex...
 
 For  all  tetra's,  Discus,  Rainbows  Betta's  and  angels  i  usually  prefer  products  from  tetra  such  as  tetra  bits  as  their  main  meal.  Mix  it  up  with  may  be  Hikari  pellets  /  wafers  and  an  occational  dried  blood  worm  meal....  This  has  got  in  the  real  good  colouration  on  many  of  my  fishes,  with  no  mortalitoes  since  an  year  and  rainbows  growing  to  more  than  4inches.
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 Hi  raghu
 My  tank  size  is  12X12X24  and  the  fisher  are
 4  mollies  1.5"
 2  angels  medium  size
 2  banana  chiclid  small
 1  kuhli  loach  3"
 4  tigers  medium
 1  crocodile  fish
 2  butterfly  shark  medium
 2  cat  fish
 1  fighter
 3  snails  medium
 
 Gravel  Bed.No  filtration.Lots  of  plants.A  small  driftwood  along  the  back.
 The  tank  gets  direct  sunlight  for  about  2-3  hours(I  have  to  regularly  prune  the  plants  to  prevent  overgrowth  ).One  60  watt  bulb.Water  change  is  by  partial  replacement   though  the  need  to  change  is  very  infrequent  as  the  water  does  not  get  much  dirty(Maybe  once  every  2  months)Feed  the  fishes  once  daily  with  a  gap  of  one  day  every  week
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

 You  should  at  least  do  weekly  partial  water  changes  or  biweekly.
 And  please  put  in  a  filter.  You  have  no  idea  how  dirty  the  water  really  is  until  you  clean  out  a  filter.  It  doesn't  have  to  be  anything  expensive;  just  a  simple  corner  filter  and  air  pump  will  do.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to live food Reply with quote

                                                   
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My  tank  size  is  12X12X24  and  the  fisher  are  
 4  mollies  1.5"  
 2  angels  medium  size  
 2  banana  chiclid  small  
 1  kuhli  loach  3"  
 4  tigers  medium  
 1  crocodile  fish  
 2  butterfly  shark  medium  
 2  cat  fish  
 1  fighter  
 3  snails  medium                

 Well  sir,  you  probably  have  a  rainbow  shark  (not  butterfly  -  you  could  post  picture  for  positive  identification)
 now,  the  fighter  will  get  a  good  fin-nipping  from  the  tigerbarbs  so  they  are  not  compatible  again,  the  banana  cichlid  (I  presume  the  electric  yellow)  is  more  aggressive  compared  to  the  mollies  and  the  angels  -  the  mollies  prefer  a  bit  of  salt  in  the  water  which  will  not  be  tolerated  by  your  catfish  (I  presume  corys)  and  last  but  not  the  least  we  consider  snails  as  pests  in  planted  aquaria  and  the  pleco  (crocodile  fish)  is  also  not  a  very  desirable  option  for  planted  aquariums  (why  keep  them?)
 see  where  you  are  going  wrong!
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 I  use  dry  tubifex  worms  +  dry  pellets   for  my  aquarium  and  supplement  them  with  huge  amount  of  guppy  fries  which  I  generate  in  the  ponds  in  my  balcony.  My  angels  love  them  very  much  and  even  picks  them  up  even  after  the  the  lights  have  gone  out.  Recently  introduced  two  baby  angels.  They  are  still  not  accustomed  to  dry  food,  but  immediately  took  to  the  hunting..
 Also  a  good  source  of  food  is  the  fish  eggs.  I  usually  keep  the  eggs  of  carps  like  rohu  and  katla  in  my  freezer  and  occassionally  supplement  the  commercial  dry  food  with  them.  The  size  of  the  eggs  are  almost  similar  to  that  of  the  small  dry  pellets  and  fishes  enjoy  them  very  much.
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