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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: some white thing growing in betta tank Reply with quote

 Sandeep,  you've  never  seen  moneyplant  grown  in  water!!  :O
 
 It  grows  decently  well  when  grown  with  roots  in  water  and  leaves  above.  I  have  one  in  a  bowl  at  home  as  well.  Smile
 
 A  4  gallon  tank  is  big  enough  for  a  moneyplant  and  a  betta...  Why  do  you  think  it  will  be  crowded?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: some white thing growing in betta tank Reply with quote

 Money  plant  or  "phothos"  is  a  house  plant,  it  is  not  a  aquarium  plant.  However  it  can  survive  in  aquarium  if  it  has  just  its  roots  in  water  and  allowed  to  grow  out.  Fully  submerged,  it  dies  off  after  some  time.
 It  gets  to  be  a  pretty  large  plant  and  will  corner  most  of  the  space  in  an  bowl  or  small  aquarium.
 Even  if  betta  is  a  small  fish  and  needs  less  space  I  don't  think  it  is  appropiate  to  keep  it  with  money  plant.
 There  are  many  terristail  plants  that  are  sold  as  aquarium  plants,  but  they  are  neither  underwater  plants  nor  aable  to  live  long  under  water
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It  gets  to  be  a  pretty  large  plant  and  will  corner  most  of  the  space  in  an  bowl  or  small  aquarium                

 
 Well,  my  moneyplant  (Pothos  sp.)  does  not  seem  to  know  that.   Very Happy
 
 Its  been  in  the  bowl  for  the  last  one  year  and  still  stays  small  with  small  leaves.  Gets  new  leaves  about  once  a  month.
 OTOH,  the  parent,  the  one  that  I  got  the  cutting  from  (actually  stole  -  apparently  you  should  only  steal  moneyplant  cuttings  -  its  supposed  to  be  bad  luck  if  you  get  it  legally  Wink)   is  planted  in  soil  and  has  leaves  the  size  of  dinner  plates.  Its  wrapped  around  a  tree  and  has  grown  enormous.
 
 They  only  get  large  if  potted  in  soil.  Water  culture  stunts  their  growth.  Its  absolutely  OK  to  keep  it  in  a  betta  tank  although  I  would  personally  not  like  the  aesthetics.
 
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As  Deepesh  mentioned,  it  is  proabbly  planaria.  They  are  not  dangerous  to  your  fish  but  indicate  high  organic  content  in  the  water.
 
 Do  not  add  any  medicines  if  your  fish  is  not  ill.
 Do  regular  50%  water  changes  with  aged  water  at  the  same  temperature  -  once  in  2/3  days.
 Do  not  overfeed.
 Add  salt.
 
 Over  the  next  2  weeks  they  should  disappear.
 
 Your  money  plant  will  not  suffer.  If  it  does,  you  can  always  pull  it  out  and  put  it  in  fresh  water  till  the  tank  is  clean  of  "worms"
 
 Add  an  airstone  for  aeration  by  all  means  but  keep  it  hanging  near  the  surface  and  keep  the  bubbling  to  a  low  rate.
 
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 hey  i  added  salt  for  1week  i  can  see  almost  90%  worms  gone  and  yes  i  do  50%wc  twice  in  1  week  and  i  am  adding  salt  when  i  do  wc  but  you  mentioned  that  do  wc  woth  aging  water  is  it  fine  if  the  water  is  1-2months  old  or  its  better  to  add  tap  water  with  dechlorinator???  and  1  more  question  my  white  gravel  is  turning  a  bit  yellowish  may  i  know  the  reason  why??
 
 and  ya  i  don't  overfeed  cause  my  betta  eats  each  piece  of  feed  in  front  of  my  eyes  and  what  did  u  mean  by  (keep  it  hanging  near  the  surface)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: some white thing growing in betta tank Reply with quote

 What  are  you  doing  keeping  water  for  a  month  or  two?  (surprized  and  smiling)
 
 OK  seriously  speaking  water  thats  a  month  or  two  old  is  great  -  as  long  as  its  not  been  in  a  cement  tank.  Over  such  a  long  time  I  suspect  even  old  cement  tank  will  make  the  water  hard.
 
 If  your  water  supply  is  only  chlorinated  then  a  simple  dechlorinator  added  to  the  tap  water  is  enough.  For  water  supply  that  has  been  disinfected  with  chloramines  you  need  to  keep  the  water  for  some  time  -  more  than  a  week.  Even  then  there  is  no  sure  way  of  removing  chloramines.
 
 White  gravel  turns  yellow  -  thats  a  fact  of  life  for  aquarists.  Actually  the  gravel  is  covered  with  thousands  of  bacteria  and  algae  (yes  they  are  there  no  matter  how  clean  your  tank  looks).  They  turn  the  gravel  yellow  over  time.  In  my  parents  tank  it  turns  a  horrible  dark  green  and  then  black  in  the  light  exposed  areas!
 
 White  gravel  is  usually  a  form  of  calcium  carbonate.  It  will  make  the  water  hard.  Bettas  will  do  better  in  neutral  or  soft  water.
 
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What  are  you  doing  keeping  water  for  a  month  or  two?  (surprized  and  smiling)
 
 OK  seriously  speaking  water  thats  a  month  or  two  old  is  great  -  as  long  as  its  not  been  in  a  cement  tank.  Over  such  a  long  time  I  suspect  even  old  cement  tank  will  make  the  water  hard.
 
 If  your  water  supply  is  only  chlorinated  then  a  simple  dechlorinator  added  to  the  tap  water  is  enough.  For  water  supply  that  has  been  disinfected  with  chloramines  you  need  to  keep  the  water  for  some  time  -  more  than  a  week.  Even  then  there  is  no  sure  way  of  removing  chloramines.
 
 White  gravel  turns  yellow  -  thats  a  fact  of  life  for  aquarists.  Actually  the  gravel  is  covered  with  thousands  of  bacteria  and  algae  (yes  they  are  there  no  matter  how  clean  your  tank  looks).  They  turn  the  gravel  yellow  over  time.  In  my  parents  tank  it  turns  a  horrible  dark  green  and  then  black  in  the  light  exposed  areas!
 
 White  gravel  is  usually  a  form  of  calcium  carbonate.  It  will  make  the  water  hard.  Bettas  will  do  better  in  neutral  or  soft  water.
 
 deepesh                

 thanks  for  your  reply,
 
 
 hey  man  i  have  stored  water  in  a  plastic  storage  tank  hope  you  know  bout  it  and  in  that  water  also  i  add  anti-chlorine  for  safety  and  secondly  i  didn't  knew  bout  the  calcium  content  anyways  now  no  solution  as  i  added  them  and  what  to  do  with  that  yello  think  on  my  gravel  any  solution...
 
 and  ya  i've  submerged  my  money  plant  into  the  water  from  alst  15-20  days  and  it  grows  well  till  now...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: some white thing growing in betta tank Reply with quote

 The  plastic  storage  tank  is  good.  
 
 When  my  mother  wants  to  clean  the  gravel  she  boils  it.  I  dont  recommend  that  but  it  makes  no  difference  to  her.  "I  understand  what  you  are  saying"  is  what  she  says  and  then  boils  it  the  next  time  she  feels  like  cleaning  it.  At  least  thats  how  things  were  till  about  a  year  back.  I  have  stopped  asking  about  that  tank  now.  Nobody  in  the  experts  house  listens  to  him.
 
 Don't  boil  your  gravel.  Change  it.  Gravel  for  a  betta  tank  will  not  be  too  costly.  If  you  are  not  planning  on  planting  it  just  get  some  quartz  gravel.  Very  inert  and  safe  and  cheap!  A  kg  will  cost  less  than  a  McDonalds  burger.  Its  is  very  effective  for  growing  artificial  plants.  My  wife  grows  her  silk  plants  in  a  rather  red  quartz.
 
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The  plastic  storage  tank  is  good.  
 
 When  my  mother  wants  to  clean  the  gravel  she  boils  it.  I  dont  recommend  that  but  it  makes  no  difference  to  her.  "I  understand  what  you  are  saying"  is  what  she  says  and  then  boils  it  the  next  time  she  feels  like  cleaning  it.  At  least  thats  how  things  were  till  about  a  year  back.  I  have  stopped  asking  about  that  tank  now.  Nobody  in  the  experts  house  listens  to  him.
 
 Don't  boil  your  gravel.  Change  it.  Gravel  for  a  betta  tank  will  not  be  too  costly.  If  you  are  not  planning  on  planting  it  just  get  some  quartz  gravel.  Very  inert  and  safe  and  cheap!  A  kg  will  cost  less  than  a  McDonalds  burger.  Its  is  very  effective  for  growing  artificial  plants.  My  wife  grows  her  silk  plants  in  a  rather  red  quartz.
 
 deepesh                

 
 hey  thanks  for  your  reply,
 
 but  i  didn't  get  (Its  is  very  effective  for  growing  artificial  plants)???
 
 and  i  wanted  to  tell  i  have  a  white  color  chip  gravel  does  that  also  contains  calcium  and  what  is  quartz  gravel  any  pic  or  something???  and  what  will  i  do  with  this  current  gravel???
 
 check  this  type  of  gravel  i  have  :-  
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 Any  white  opaque  gravel  is  suspected  calcium  carbonate.  Some  of  these  rocks  are  very  hard  and  will  not  immediately  react  with  acids  so  they  may  not  seem  like  carbonates.
 
 Quartz  comes  in  many  colors  so  its  difficult  to  point  out  a  color  and  say  this  is  what  quartz  looks  like.  What  quartz  looks  like  is  construction  sand  -  the  one  they  use  for  making  buildings.  Thats  actually  river  sand  so  it  has  a  lot  of  other  mineral  rocks  in  it.  But  if  you  look  closer  you  will  see  that  the  majority  of  the  grains  are  brownish  yellow  translucent  bits  of  glass  like  mineral.  Thats  quartz.  
 
 There  is  white  quartz  but  its  a  more  translucent  milky  white  than  the  white  gravels  you  see  in  LFS  and  often  contains  traces  of  minerals  of  different  colors.  I  havent  seen  any  available  as  aquarium  gravel.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz  is  a  link  to  the  wikipedia  page  on  quartz  and  halfway  down  the  page  is  a  great  photo  of  milky  white  quartz.
 
 Quartz  is  useless  as  far  as  growing  real  plants  is  concerned.  About  as  nutritious  for  the  plants  as  a  bare  bottom  tank.  Of  course  artificial  plants  dont  grow.  I  was  only  kidding  at  my  wife's  expense.
 
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Any  white  opaque  gravel  is  suspected  calcium  carbonate.  Some  of  these  rocks  are  very  hard  and  will  not  immediately  react  with  acids  so  they  may  not  seem  like  carbonates.  
 
 Quartz  comes  in  many  colors  so  its  difficult  to  point  out  a  color  and  say  this  is  what  quartz  looks  like.  What  quartz  looks  like  is  construction  sand  -  the  one  they  use  for  making  buildings.  Thats  actually  river  sand  so  it  has  a  lot  of  other  mineral  rocks  in  it.  But  if  you  look  closer  you  will  see  that  the  majority  of  the  grains  are  brownish  yellow  translucent  bits  of  glass  like  mineral.  Thats  quartz.  
 
 There  is  white  quartz  but  its  a  more  translucent  milky  white  than  the  white  gravels  you  see  in  LFS  and  often  contains  traces  of  minerals  of  different  colors.  I  havent  seen  any  available  as  aquarium  gravel.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz  is  a  link  to  the  wikipedia  page  on  quartz  and  halfway  down  the  page  is  a  great  photo  of  milky  white  quartz.  
 
 Quartz  is  useless  as  far  as  growing  real  plants  is  concerned.  About  as  nutritious  for  the  plants  as  a  bare  bottom  tank.  Of  course  artificial  plants  dont  grow.  I  was  only  kidding  at  my  wife's  expense.  
 
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 and  is  quartz  gravel  available  in  all  local  lfs  am  from  mumbai  where  will  i  get  this  here  any  idea....  Very Happy
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