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Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarensis

 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarensis Reply with quote

 Hello  Community,
 
 I  downloaded  the  PDF  "Seeking  the  Elusive  Etroplus  canarensis"  and  read  the  posts  concerning  the  search  of  E.  canarensis.
 
 In  the  article  is  mentioned,  that  in  two  locations  Tetraodon  travancoricus  was  caught.
 
 The  valid  name  of  Tetrodon  travancoricus  is  Carinotetraodon  travancoricus,  and  that  is  the  fish  I  am  interested  in.
 
 (Look  here  for  pictures:  http://www.pufferforum.net/forum/album_cat.php?cat_id=43)
 
 My  primary  interest  concerns  the  'social  live'  of  these  fish.
 
 I  read  in  the  article,  "Each  dip  of  the  net  brought  up  puffers.".
 
 When  you  saw  these  puffers,  were  they  swimming  in  groups  or  all  alone  ?
 
 Many  people  have  the  opinion  that  Carinotetraodon  travancoricus  is  highly  aggressiv  and  therefore  has  to  be  held  alone  or  in  pairs,  but  not  in  groups.
 
 Another  question  is,  does  Carinotetraodon  travancoricus  live  in  freshwater  only,  or  are  there  populations  in  brackish  water  too.
 
 If  you  can  give  me  more  information  about  biotopes  of  c.travancoricus  or  their  natural  habits,  I  would  be  very  happy.
 
 Regards  from  Germany,
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarens Reply with quote

 Welcome  to  IAH  Andreas!
 
 Is  THIS  PDF   usefull?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarens Reply with quote

 Hello  Pradeep,
 
 
                                                 
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Welcome  to  IAH  Andreas!
                 

 
 thank  you  !
 
 
                                                 
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 Is  THIS  PDF  Â usefull?                

 
 It  is  !
 Every  bit  of  information  is  a  new  piece  for  the  puzzle   Smile  .
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarens Reply with quote

 Hey  Andreas,
 
 The  puffer  your  talking  about  was  in  huge  nos,  well  in  a  river  system  like  that  of  the  Kumaradhara  am  sure  none  of  us  could  see  any  sort  of  aggression  with  them....
 
 Infact  it  was  the  easiest  fish  to  catch...  Very Happy   Very Happy  
 
 What  we  spotted  were  most  along  the  banks  of  the  river  in  groups  ...  dont  think  we  got  to  see  a  loner!!!!
 
 If  i  remember  correctly  they  were  mostly  found  at  places  with  low  water  levels...in  the  midst  of  a  slow  water  current.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarens Reply with quote

 Hello  Andreas,
 
 The  puffers  were  in  groups  ranging  from  4  or  5  to  over  20.
 
 This  fish  would  turn  up  in  our  nets  almost  with  every  dip.  Aggression  might  be  a  real  issue  in  an  aquarium  where  as  in  a  river  it  was  not  apparent  to  us.
 
 Also  with  a  lot  of  people  getting  into  the  shallows  looking  for  any  fish,  these  guys  were  more  interested  in  escaping  and  possibly  had  no  time  for  agression.
 
 At  the  times  we  silently  watched  the  groups  from  the  banks,  they  did  not  show  any  aggression  towards  each  other.
 
 In  fact  some  of  the  E  canarensis  pictures  in  the  conatin  this  fish  more  or  less  as  solitary  individuals,  this  was  an  exception  rather  than  the  rule.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarens Reply with quote

 Hello  Adip,
 
 
                                                 
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...The  puffer  your  talking  about  was  in  huge  nos,  well  in  a  river  system  like  that  of  the  Kumaradhara  am  sure  none  of  us  could  see  any  sort  of  aggression  with  them....
 ....What  we  spotted  were  most  along  the  banks  of  the  river  in  groups  ...  dont  think  we  got  to  see  a  loner!!!!                

 
 I  am  very  happy  to  read  this,  sounds  if  they  are  real  social  fish  and  no  loners  at  all.
 
 
                                                 
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 Infact  it  was  the  easiest  fish  to  catch...  Very Happy  Â Very Happy                  

 
 In  germany  its  even  harder  to  catch  one   Smile  .
 
 
                                                 
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 If  i  remember  correctly  they  were  mostly  found  at  places  with  low  water  levels...in  the  midst  of  a  slow  water  current.                

 
 I  could  observe,  that  they  do  not  like  strong  current  in  my  aquarium.
 
 Regards  and  thank  you  very  much,
 
 Andreas
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 Hello  Madan,
 
 
                                                 
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 The  puffers  were  in  groups  ranging  from  4  or  5  to  over  20....
                 

 
 sounds  very  good  !  A  social  fish  !  Thumb Up  
 
 
                                                 
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 This  fish  would  turn  up  in  our  nets  almost  with  every  dip.  Aggression  might  be  a  real  issue  in  an  aquarium  where  as  in  a  river  it  was  not  apparent  to  us.
 ...
 At  the  times  we  silently  watched  the  groups  from  the  banks,  they  did  not  show  any  aggression  towards  each  other.                

 
 C.travancoricus  is  an  aggressive  fish  in  aquarium  when  there  are  a  few  individuals  only.
 
 I  think  that  the  aggression  will  be  no  problem  at  all,  when  the  fish  is  held  in  groups  similar  to  the  behavior  of  some  cichlids  .
 
 A  river  is  not  easily  to  compare  with  a  small  aquarium,  but  I  will  try  it  with  a  group.
 
 I  am  just  raising  ca.  30-40  young  C.travancoricus.
 
 
                                                 
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...  these  guys  were  more  interested  in  escaping  and  possibly  had  no  time  for  agression.                

 
   Smile  
 
 
                                                 
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 In  fact  some  of  the  E  canarensis  pictures  in  the  conatin  this  fish  more  or  less  as  solitary  individuals,  this  was  an  exception  rather  than  the  rule.                

 
 And  I  am  very  glad,  that  you  made  the  travel  to  find  E.canarensis.
 Whithout  this  article  I  would  not  have  the  luck  to  get  in  contact  whith  people  who  saw  c.travancoricus  in  natural  biotope   Thumb Up  .
 
 
 Regards  and  thank  you  very  much,
 
 Andreas
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarens Reply with quote

 I  have  kept  these  tiny  puffers  they  need  a  lot  of  algae  and  keep  a  lot  of  river  stones  where  they  feel  comfortable
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Caronotetrodon travancoricus <-> Etroplus canarens Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 C.Travancoricus  is  a  carnivorous  fish.  It  feeds  on  crustaceans  in  the  wild.  
 
 It  does  not  need  algae.  But  it  might  be  eating  snails  in  the  algae.  Snails  are  its  favorite  food  and  you  should  see  them  hunting  it.
 
 It  is  also  called  the  dwarf  puffer  and  where  we  have  seen  them,  hill  streams  and  rivers  in  the  western  ghats  the  water  will  be  soft.   Please  do  not  add  salt  to  your  aquarium.
 
 I  had  kept  them(wild  caught)  for  one  year.  Excellent  snail  busters  in  a  planted  tank.  Very  intelligent  too.  But  in  an  aquarium  will  be  aggressive  toward  each  other  and  fin  nippers.  They  are  ambush  hunters.  Will  stay  at  one  spot  without  moving  for  a  long  time  and  then  wham!  The  snail  or  the  worm  or  any  small  fish  is  gone.
 
 
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