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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Hi,
         in  my  22G  planted  tank  as  of  now  I  am  using  a  Internal  Power  filter  with  120l/Hr  flow  rate  for  Filteration  as  well  as  CO2  diffusion.  But  the  water  circulation  in  the  tank  is  very  low.  So  all  the  dirts  and  fish  poofs  are  geting  deposited  on  the  substrate,  corner  of  Rocks  and  at  the  plants  bottom.  As  a  result  unwanted  nutrients  (Ammonia,  Phosphate,  Nitrite  etc  etc)  in  water  column  is  very  high  and  the  tank  is  suffering  from  Algae  for  a  long.
 
 So  just  to  increase  the  water  circulation  and  for  a  better  mechanical  as  well  as  biological  filteration  I  am  planning  to  install  an  external  canister.  But  tank  is  holding  only  22G  and  Eheim  2217  will  be  an  overkill.  Is  there  any  other  option,  I  can  go  for?  If  you  are  using  any  small  canister  filter  of  any  other  company  please  let  me  know  the  performance  and  price.  I  am  open  for  Dolphin,  Miang  Jing  or  any  other  chinise  product  also.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 I  use  the  dolphin  hang  back  external  filter.  The  only  problem  is  that  it  causes  surface  perturbation  and  may  result  in  CO2  loss.  However,  I  am  a  novice  planted  aquarist  and  you  should  wait  for  the  experts  to  speak  .   Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Hi  Tirtha,
 
 You  can  go  for  Eheim  2213  which  has  a  flow  rate  of  440  liters  per  hour;  less  then  50%  of  2217.
 
 Please  use  http://www.eheimasiapacific.com/English/classic.htm  for  further  details.
 
 MJ's  FJ  180  is  economical  having  three  media  baskets;  but  at  1100  liter/hours  which  will  not  suit  your  requirment.  I  saw  one  small  triangular  blue  coloured  external  filter  at  one  of  the  LFS  which  might  be  good  for  you  requirment  (it  had  all  the  media  included  coarse  pads,  bio  rings,  fine  pad).
 Call  me  if  you  need  further  details.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  use  the  dolphin  hang  back  external  filter.  The  only  problem  is  that  it  causes  surface  perturbation  and  may  result  in  CO2  loss.                

 
 You  are  right  Sriram.  Hangback  filter  is  not  at  all  recomended  for  planted  tank.  Take  a  look  to  the      Old  Discussion  Link  .  We  had  a  good  discussion  about  the  same  before.  Smile
 
 @Vikash  Sir....  Thanks  a  lot  for  these  info.  Surely  I  will  reach  out  to  you.  Last  time  I  forgot  to  take  your  number,  please  PM  me  your  number.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 ..hi  Tirthankar,
 I  believe  you  best  bet  would  be  the  2217.
 Even  I  am  planning  on  getting  the  2213  for  my  2x1.  You  are  right  the  2217  is  an  over  kill,  I  use  it  for  about  an  hour  or  so  in  my  2x1  tank  just  to  clear  out  the  mechanical  particles  after  which  the  tank  is  crystal  clear.  The  2217  does  it  duty  on  the  4footer  otherwise...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 What  fishes  do  you  have  in  your  planted  tank?
 Water  circulation  in  a  planted  tank  should  be  as  gentle  as  possible,  a  small  power  filter  should  be  enough  for  this  tank.  Even  a  power  filter  is  too  much  in  a  planted  tank.  this  is  precisely  the  reason  why  I  disbanded  my  smaller  planted  tank  as  trying  to  find  a  filter  is  very  hard  Very Happy   
 Try  &  reduce  the  number  of  fishes  in  this  tank,  that  might  work.
 Any  external  filter  might  be  an  overkill  for  this  tank.
 Another  option  might  be  going  in  for  a  larger  power  flter  and  difussing  flow  with  an  spray  bar  etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 I  understand  you  are  looking  for  an  external  filter  for  a  70  liter  tank.  It  would  really  provide  more  clarity  if  you  could  let  us  know  the  exact  dimensions  of  the  tank.
 
 I  would  suggest  you  go  for  a  slightly  overpowered  filter[anyways  most  of  the  smallest  models  in  external  filters  will  be  slightly  overpowered  for  your  tank].  Its  always  better  to  have  a  little  bit  over  than  what  you  need.  You  can  easily  manage  the  current  by  placing  the  outlet  in  a  way  that  it  does  not  churn  the  water  too  much.
 
 I  would  suggest  Eheim  filters  as  its  money  well  spent.  Eheim  filters  will  be  dependable,  and  will  last  you  very  long.  Even  when  some  parts  fail,  you  can  always  replace  that  part  alone[impeller/bearing  etc].
 
 Here  are  my  suggestions.
 
 You  could  use  an  Eheim  2213.  For  details,  see  here:
 
 http://www.eheimasiapacific.com/English/classic.htm
 
 Or,  you  could  go  in  for  an  Eheim  Ecco  2232.  For  details,  see  here:
 
 http://www.eheimasiapacific.com/English/ecco.htm
 
 In  the  Professional  series,  you  could  go  in  for  the  Eheim  Professional  2222.  For  details,  see  here:
 
 http://www.eheimasiapacific.com/English/pro.htm
 
 Hope  that  helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  everyone  for  your  kind  reply.
 
 @Sandeep:  You  are  right....  my  main  problem  is,  the  tank  is  over  crowded.  I  am  trying  to  give  my  fishes  away  but  no  one  here  is  having  a  spare  tank.  My  last  resort  will  be  an  LFS.  I  was  not  able  to  unload  the  live  stock  thatz  why  I  was  thinking  about  an  external  filter.
 
 @Nytyn  and  Nanu:  Already  I  have  checked  with  the  Eheim  site.  But  I  am  not  in  a  position  to  spend  arround  4K  for  this  small  tank  cause  I  am  on  the  way  to  built  a  4x2x2.  So  was  looking  for  any  chinese  made  filter,  price  range  between  1.5-2K.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Use  a  HOB.  
 
 I  had  it  in  my  5.5  footer  for  about  a  month,  doing  double  duty  with  my  2215  and  am  running  a  powerhead  with  the  CO2  being  diffused  by  the  powerhead.  Although  there  is  loss  of  CO2,  I  have  found  it  to  be  negligible  with  regard  to  the  price  of  CO2.  
 
 A  7kg  cylinder  should  last  close  to  about  7-8  months  minimum.  And  at  a  cost  a  couple  of  hundred  bucks  for  a  refill,  you  can  use  your  HOB  without  any  great  loss.
 
 The  HOB  has  since  been  moved  to  my  low-tech  tank.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Hey  Tirthankar
 
 I  am  using  SunSUn  power  filter  for  my  26G  tanks  (currently  hold  about  20G,  not  topped  up  water),  its  comes  with  the  capacity  of  400ltr/hr  and  has  an  attachment  for  diverting  the  flow  towards  the  wall  of  the  aquarium
 
 I  guess  that  should  help  you  with  yuor  current  situation.  Have  been  using  for  around  4-5  days  now,  not  much  of  issues.  Priced  at  aroubnd  350  in  mum...
 
 Hope  this  helps.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Thirthankar,
 
 Check  for  Sunsun  Filters   at  Chennai.  Will  be  much  cheaper  than  Mumbai.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 ..Tirthankar  ..
 I  hope  it  is  ok  to  quote  someone  else  from  another  post..
 This  was  what  I  got  when  had  a  similar  enquiry..these  for  for  less  than  2-2.5K  for  sure..
 have  a  look...
 Cheers,
   
 
                                                 
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Hi  Nanu  
 
      Well  I  have  been  using  a  dolphin  nw  for  about  a  year  without  any  issues  it  s  performance,  for  the  money  I  have  spent,  is  good.  Both  the  C1000  and  C1300  should  come  within  your  budget  (bangalore  rates).  C1000  will  work  at  around  800l/hr  and  C1300  around  1000l/hr.  
 
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 Thanks  Nanu  for  the  info.  Dolphin  C1000  will  be  more  than  enough  for  my  tank.  Now  let  me  find  it  out  in  Delhi.  Smile
 
 But  before  that  I  will  cut  down  the  bio  load  also.
 
 @Mirji  Sir:  In  Delhi  Sunsun  is  really  hard  to  find  but  easily  I  can  get  Dolphin  here.
 
 @Suraj:  You  are  using  pressurized  CO2  so  it's  easy  for  you  to  maintain  optimum  CO2  level  even  after  using  HOB.  But  I  have  DIY  system  in  the  small  tank  so  that  will  be  really  tough  if  I  loose  CO2  by  HOB.  Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 ..Tirthankar..
 ..if  you  do  manage  to  source  one  please  PM  me  the  excat  price.
 thanks..
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: Re: External Filteration For 22G Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Tirtha,
 I  confirmed  from  our  well  known  LFS  about  C1000.  He  has  good  stock  of  it  but  you  can  also  try  Mj  Fj;s  As  Vikas  Sir  suggested.
 Because  no  one  will  give  you  warranty  on  Dolphin  and  if  by  chance  something  worse  happen  than  who  will  cover  that  filter  cost  so  I  will  suggest  you  that  go  for  any  warranted  filter.  that  LFS  has  dealership  of  Mj  and  these  filters  comes  with  6  month  warranty.  And  yes  it  fits  in  your  budget   Clapping   Smile
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