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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Hi  anyone  heard  of  thermo  electric  coolers.  I  heard  there  are  market  products  available  for  this.  Anyone  has  any  knowledge  about  a  DIY  project  that  one  could  post  here  !!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Hi  Nash,
 
 Welcome  to  IAH.
 
 
                                                 
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Hi  anyone  heard  of  thermo  electric  coolers.  I  heard  there  are  market  products  available  for  this.                
Thermo  chiller  are  best  suitable  for  NANO  tanks  and  are  very  inexpensive  compared  to  compressor  chiller.
 
 Let  me  know  if  you  need.  Smile
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 What  is  the  cost  of  one  ?  Cant  we  stack  multiple  to  lower  down  a  few  degrees  on  a  larger  tank  ?
 
 I  am  also  intrested  in  purchasing  live  rock  i  heard  it  has  become  banned  in  india  is  that  true  ?  and  the  following  items
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Hi  Nash,
 
 Welcome  to  IAH.  Please  let  people  know  about  the  setup  you  are  planning  and  they  will  be  able  to  help  you  much  more.  Also,  introduce  yourself.
 
 A  few  members  here  can  certainly  help  you  out  regarding  the  equipment  you  need.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 I  have  a  DIY  plywood  tank  120Gal,  Currently  i  am  planning  a  FO  steup  or  a  FOWLR  if  i  am  able  to  get  live  rock  heard  it  got  banned.  In  the  future  once  the  tank  has  stablized  and  i  am  satisfied  i  plan  to  upgrade  it  with  MH  and  add  some  anemones  and  reef  setup.
 
 I  am  from  Delhi  and  a  pro  at  freshwater  and  am  now  moving  into  saltwater.
 I  am  a  complete  DIY  fanatic.   I  built  my  plywood  tank  for  as  low  as  Rs  1200/-
 
 The  technique  i  used  was  simple.  Got  the  ply  made  a  wodden  frame  and  screwed  up  the  ply.  Post  that  i  did  not  use  any  Epoxy  or  Paint  which  most  DIY  projects  would  suggest.  I  took  the  cost  effective  route.  I  got  a  lot  of  Backgrounds,  2  bottles  of  silicone.  Applied  it  to  the  complete  ply  and  stuck  the  backgrounds  to  it  and  voila  my  plywood  tank  was  completely  water  proof  at  1/4th  the  price  of  epoxy.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Welcome  to  IAH,  Glad  to  see  another  DIYer  in  action.  How  about  a  pic  of  your  setup???
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

                                                   
nash81  wrote  (View  Post):                
 I  got  a  lot  of  Backgrounds,  2  bottles  of  silicone.  Applied  it  to  the  complete  ply  and  stuck  the  backgrounds  to  it  and  voila  my  plywood  tank  was  completely  water  proof  at  1/4th  the  price  of  epoxy.                

 
 What  kinda  of  backgrounds?
 As  Ilango  said,  Can  you  please  post  some  pics?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Surely  i  will  be  posting  some  images  as  soon  as  i  click  some.  Proly  on  the  weekend.
 
 Backgrouds  are  basicaly  pictures  that  one  can  attach  as  a  back  drop.  Its  made  of  a  pvc  sheet  and  commonly  available  at  most  LFS.  my  LFS  had  some  plain  blue  ones  so  i  could  blend  them  quiet  well  with  the  aquascape.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Hi  Nash,
 Welcome  to  IAH  Thumb Up
 
 Check  out  some  useful  links  :
 
 Poor  Man's  Reef  :  http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2529
 
 Chiller  for  Reef  :  http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2813
 
 
                                                 
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What  is  the  cost  of  one  ?  Cant  we  stack  multiple  to  lower  down  a  few  degrees  on  a  larger  tank  ?                  
price  discussion  is  not  allowed  in  open  forum,  hence  you  have  a  pm.
 Yes  you  can  stack  multiple  to  lower  down  the  temperature.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

                                                   
nash81  wrote  (View  Post):                
I  got  a  lot  of  Backgrounds,  2  bottles  of  silicone.  Applied  it  to  the  complete  ply  and  stuck  the  backgrounds  to  it  and  voila  my  plywood  tank  was  completely  water  proof  at  1/4th  the  price  of  epoxy.                

 
 Interesting.  I  wonder  how  long  it  will  stay  waterproof.
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 I  am  sure  it  will  stay  long  enough  ...  the  reason  i  claim  that  is  i  did  apply  a  complete  coat  of  silicone  to  the  ply  wood  first  allowed  it  to  cure  for  48hrs  post  which  i  applied  another  layer  of  silicone  to  which  the  backdrop  was  pasted.  So  i  dont  see  any  reason  why  the  silicone  should  not  keep  the  tank  water  proof  long  enough.
 
 I  am  trying  to  post  a  few  pics  here  ..  try  this  link
 
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 [img]http://picasaweb.google.com/nash81/AquariumDIY/photo#5166770842047789490[/img]
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

                                                   
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Yes  you  can  stack  multiple  to  lower  down  the  temperature.                

 
 You  sure??
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 Ok  here  is  a  good  find.
 
 http://tropicoolindia.com/deepfreezercf_18.asp
 
 They  also  have  distributors  accross  a  lot  of  locations  accross  india.  Espcly  metro  cities.
 
 One  can  use  these  in  a  few  simple  steps.  Just  run  a  long  hose  pipe  from  your  tank  using  a  power  head  which  coils  through  this  freezer  and  returns  back  to  the  tank.  The   good  part  of  this  is  it  has  a  temp  regulator  and  we  can  set  the  temp  so  that  it  does  not  create  sudden  changes  in  the  tank  water  temperature.  May  be  set  it  to  5deg  below  regular  tank  temp.  This  should  cause  the  tank  water  to  cool  down  gradually.  This  is  just  a  thought  not  implemented  though.  I  will  try  and  contact  them  and  lets  c  what  the  cost  of  this  little  beauty  is.
 
 Also  like  the  DIY  mini  fridge  one  can  use  Thermoelectric  car  cooler  boxes.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Thermo Electric Chiller Reply with quote

 If  you  wanna  effective  chiller  that  is  pretty  cheap  to  make  try  this...
 
 Items  needed  :
 
 1.   A  thermocol  box  (preferably  cylindrical,hope  some  of  you  guys  remember  the  box  where  the  petti  shop  keepers  had  their  crushed  ice  before  pepsi  and  coke  came  to  the  market  with  free  fridges  )
 2.   Flexible  hose  (similar  to  airline  tubes  but  bigger  in  diameter)
 3.   A  small  powerhead
 4.   Flow  controller
 5.   A  fridge  where  you  can  borrow  those  ice  cubes  Wink
 6.   Common  Salt  (crystals  not  the  table  salt)  
 
 Jigup  the  powerhead  to  split  the  flow  into  to  outlets.  On  one  outlet  fix  a  flow  controller.  
 
 Make  a  coil  out  of  the  tube  and  dump  it  into  the  insulated  box.  One  end  of  the  tube  must  be  connected  to  the  powerhead   and  the  other  must  return  the  water  to  the  tank(preferably   bottom  of  the  tank).  Run  the  power  head  and  make  sure  there  is  no  leaks.Now  your  homemade  chiller  is  ready  to  do  the  work  for  you.  
 
 Empty  all  the  ice  cubes  from  the  fridge  into  the  box  (before  your  mom  or  wife  sees  it  Smile  )  Add  some  slat  crystals  to  the  cubes  and  mix  it  well  with  some  stick  or  something  (this  mixture  can  get  pretty  cold  !!!).
 
 Start  your  power  head  and  adjust  the  flow  controller  so  that  enough  flow  goes  into  the  chiller.  Sit  back  and  monitor  your  tank  temp.
 
 Adjust  the  flow  controller  as  per  your  requirements.  When  you  don't  wanna  the  chiller  all  you  have  to  do  is  stop  the  powerhead  or  increase  the  flow  through  the  flow  controller  ...
 
 Cheap  and  cost  effective  chiller  is  ready  Smile
 
 Ilango
 
 On  the  other  outlet  fix  the  flexi  tube.
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 Just  did  some  rough  sketch  for  the  chiller
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