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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

                                                   
nature_lover  wrote  (View  Post):                

 Trevor,  any  ID  on  the  fern.  Looks  good.                

 I  had  sent  the  pics  to  Claus  Christensen  of  Tropica  who  was  keen  to  come  on  a  similar  trip  in  India  after  seeing  the  snaps.  That  was  two  years  back.  No  positive  I.D.  but  I  think  these  ferns  will  do  well  only  emersed.  
 Maybe  it  should  be  gradually  acclimatised  to  growing  underwater.  Lasted  for  just  a  little  over  a  year  in  our  tanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 Trevor,  are  ferns  same  seen  in  Tada???
 
 http://www.aquarticles.com/images/Beta%20Tada/tada20.jpg


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 So  Trevor,  you  mean  to  say  that  since  you  submersed  it,  it  didn't  survive.  Should  look  good  in  a  terrarium  then.
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 True  aquatic  plants  are  very  rare.  Most  of  the  present  aquarium  plants  have  had  'tinkering'  done  to  them.  Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 Hi  People,
 
 yesterday  when  going  through  my  old  mails  came  up  with  the  article  written  by  Trevor  about  our  recce  trip  to  Kumta  two  years  back.  
 
 Here  is  the  link  to  it.
 
 
 http://www.geocities.com/trevormenezes/kumtatrip.html
 
 
 Regards,
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 Hi  Nayak,
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 Hi  Suraj,
 
 I  will  have  to  inform  Trevor  about  it.  But  here  is  a  brief......
 
 The  hunt  for  the  unknown   
   
   The  planning  for  this  trip  was  done  a  couple  of  weeks  ahead  at  our  Sunday  meeting  of  the  members  of  the  Aquarist  Society  of   Karnataka.  Nayak  had  months  back  spotted  a  empty  Crayfish  shell  at  a  bank  on  one  of  the  streams  of   the  river  Aganashi.   The  river  Aganashi  has  its  start  at  Sirsi  and  flows  out  at  Kumta.  These  are  important  towns  in  north  Kanara  a  district  of   North  Karnataka  and  just  below  the  state  of  Goa.
 
 
 
 It  was  decided  to  leave  early  on  thursday  the  30th  of  march  since  it  was  the   Ugadi  festival  holiday  and  would  it  be  a  perfect  weekend  .  Adip  came  to  my  place  at  5.30  am  on  the  dot  surprisingly  as  keeping  time  is  something  he  very  rarely  does.  Within  a  few  minutes  Nayak  arrived  in  his  Tata  Indica  Marina  a  saloon  and  we  both  jumped  in.  Had  a  breakfast  at  Mahalaksmi  Layout  and  left  Bangalore  at  6.50  am  with  Idli  and  Karabath  filled  stomachs.
 
 
 
 This  was  National  Highway  No.  206.  Reached  Tumkur  at  8.10am,  Gubbi  at  8.25am  the  road  so  far  was  good.  Tiptur  at  9.10am,  Arisikere  at  9.35,  Birur  at  10.15am,Tarikere  10.10  am.  Eighteen  Kms  for  here  was  the  Badra  Dam  and  the  river  tern  lodge.  Reached  Shimoga  at  11.15am  and  refueled  then  passed  Sagar.
 
 
 
 Between   Sagar  and  Jog  falls  we  came  across  a  lot  of  biotopes  of  which  we  explored  only  one.  From  here  we  collected  a  nitrogen  fixation  plant  saw  killifish  and  a  lot  of  tadpoles.  The  temperature  was  a  sizzling  34  deg  C.
 
 
 
 We  stopped  at  the  entrance  of  the  Jog  falls  junction.  Here  we  caught  Tic  Toe  Barbs,  Melon  Barbs,  Killifish,  Garra,  Danio’s.  Also  collected  water  sprite,  Eliocharis  sp.  And  rotala  which  was  purple  red  in  colour.
 
 
 
 Five  Kms  before  Gerossapa  spotted  a  variety  of  Masheer  saw  Melon  Barbs,  Garra’s,  Loaches,  Filamentos  Barbs,  Yellow  tail  Danio’s.  Reached  Gerosappa  at  3.15pm  and  Honnavar  at  3.50.  At  Honnavar  we  went  to  Hotel  Kamat  and  had  some  light  eats.  Reached  Kumta  at  4.50pm.  Here  we  booked  a  room  and  went  exploring  the  city  and  surrounding  areas.  We  met  the  local  fishermen  chatted  them  up  and  also  visted  the  local  LFS.  Had  a  good  dinner  and  got  up  at  5.30am  the  next  day  with  the  T.V  blaring  and  lights  still  on.  We  had  crashed  into  bed  without  the  strength  to  turn  them  off.
 Day  2
 
 
 We  left  Kumta  at  6.40am  taking  the  road  left  to  Siddapur.  On  the  way  we  helped  ourselves  to  the  juicy  cashew  fruit.  This  is  the  fruit  used  in  the  manufacture  of  Cashew  liquor  called  Feni.  As  long  as  you  throw  down  the  raw  Cashew  nuts  and  help  yourself  only  to  the  fruit  no  one  objects.  We  came  across  a  lot  of  Laterite  quarries.
 
 
 
 
 
 We  stopped  at  Badal  the  second  bridge  from  Kumta  on  the  Siddapur  road.  This  was  the  first  treasure  spot.  We  caught  a  lot  of  danio’s,  some  giant  danio’s,  Killifish  ,filamentos  barbs,  three  types  of  loaches,  wood  shrimp,  lobster,  Garra,  gobi  and  clams.
 
 Left  the  place  at  10.15am  and  went  on  to  Mastimane  were  crayfish  was  sighted  months  earlier.  We  saw  the  same  fishes  we  had  got  earlier.  Had  breakfast  curd  massoru  and  a  local  chopsuey  at  10.30am.
 
 Traveling  a  few   kilometers  further  on  the  Siddapur  road  finally  got  a  super  treasure  spot  for  a  planted  nut  like  me.  We  saw  a  type  of  pelia,  a  new  variety  of  java  fern,  some  hydrocotlye   ,  a  new  moss  plenty  of  beautiful  rocks  and  driftwood.  We  caught  some  banded  loaches  some  striped  loaches  and  a  crab.
 
 
 
 Reached  Siddapur  at  2.30pmand  had  lunch  at  Pai  Vihar.  And  reached  Sirsi  at  3.50pm.  They  were  good  roads  most  of  the  way.  From  Sirsi  returned  back  to  Kumta  by  a  different  route.  Some  twenty  kilometers  from  Sirsi  spotted  a  promising  biotope  which  we  investigated.  Here  we  got  a  ten  bar  Killifish  and  some  different  looking  Scavenger  loaches.  In  some  biotopes  we  saw  buffaloes  cooling  off  in  the  water.  Probably  helped  the  lush  plant  growth  with  their  daily  PMDD.
 
 Crossed  Kumta  and  went  on  to  thadadi  sixteen  kilometers  further  down.  This  is  one  of   the  oldest  maritime  ports  in  Karnataka.  Here  is  where  the  river  Aganasni  finally  meets  the  sea.  Here  a  thermal  nuclear  plant  is  coming  up  and  the  local  people  were  quite  tense.  The  fishing  industry  will  be  finished  due  to  the  pollution  from  the  thermal  power  plant.  There  was  a  lot  of  prawn  culture  going  on  here.  We  got  some  feed  which  was  used  for  the  cultured  prawns.  Along  the  way  my  camera  had  fallen  and  had  gone  for  a  six.  I  had  to  fix  it  up  with  cello  tape  and  some  rubber  bands.
 
 Day  Three
 April  1st  Had  breakfast  at  Kamat  and  purchased  some  vital  equipment  like  rubber  bands  and  Byras.  Byras  is  a  pure  cotton  cloth  slung  over  the  shoulders  to  wipe  out  the  sweat  like  a  large  handkerchief.   Left  for  Honnavar  on  highway  no.  206  at  9.30am
 
 Honnavar  is  a  large  and  old   fishing  port  where  the  river  Sharavati  flows  into  the  sea.  Here  we  spotted  some  brackish  water  sea  angels  with  an  orange  tinge.  This  area  was  too  deep  to  do  anything.  After   crossing  the  Honnavar  bridge  we  turned  back  and  took  the  route  back  to  Bangalore.  
 
 We  turned  left  after  the  Baskeri  bridge  and  found  a  lot  of  Sags,  Macro  Pelia,  Java  moss,  Hair  grass  and  Blyxa.
 
 Came  to  the  next  bridge  on  the  way  -  the  Kadagiri  bridge   a  tributary  of  the  Sharavati  was  flowing  under  it.  Adip  caught  another  type  of  panchax  some  Barbs  ,  Danio’s  and  some  tiny  shrimp.
 
 Thirty  kilometers  from  Sagar  for  the  first  time  we  got  the  Lagendra  plant.  Caught  a  water  scorpion  similar  to  the  one  that  was  on  display  at  Aquatika  2005  last  year.  Also  collected  Killifish  Micro  and  Macro  Pelia  and  some  mosses.
 
 
 
 Entered  Sagar   at  3.15pm  and  went  on  to  Shimoga  arriving  at  5pm.  Here  we  booked  an  A/C  room  in  Hotel  Ashoka  and  crashed  out  for  the  night.
 
 Day  Four  
 Left  Shimoga  for  Bangalore  on  National  highway  No.  206  at  5.30am  reaching  Bangalore  at  10.30  am.
 
 All  the  fish  was  brought  without  the  use  of  oxygen,  ammolock,  stresscoat,  or  the  battery  air  pump  which  we  had  carried.  We  just  repacked  the  fishes  several  times  and  they  were  fine.
 
 TREVOR.
 
 
 Regards,
 Nayak.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 This  is  a  great  read.  Mahalakshmi  Layout,  the  place  you  had  breakfast  on  day  one  was  my  home  for  23  years.
 
 Hope  you  can  post  pictures  too.
 
 The  final  sentence  does  say  it  all.  
 "All  the  fish  was  brought  without  the  use  of  oxygen,  ammolock,  stresscoat,  or  the  battery  air  pump  which  we  had  carried.  We  just  repacked  the  fishes  several  times  and  they  were  fine.  "
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 wow  that  all  sounds  like  so  much  fun   Cheer
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 Hi,
 
 A  lot  of  things  were  missed  in  the  earlier  trip.  But  now  two  years  down  the  line  we  are  more  knowledgeable.  
 
 Refer  to  Trevor  mentioning  Lobster  Near  Badal.  Now  we  know  that  it  is  a  Macrobrachium.  After  catching  it  and  bringing  it  to  Bangalore  we  were  able  to  Google  it  and  know  more  about  Macrobrachiums  as  well  as  Cardina  Sp.   
 
 yes!  the  dwarf  rainbow  shrimp/Cardina.Sp  was  also  caught  on  this  trip  for  the  first  time.  All  the  Dwarf  shrimp  varieties  in  Bangalore  were  the  offspring  of  this  collection  till  we  got  another  batch  from  Pondicherry  and  later  Sangam.
 
 I  dare  say  that  the  interest  in  shrimps  and  consequently  Invertebrate  forum  on  IAH  is  the  result  of  this  collection  trip.
 
 Talking  about  plants,
 
 Like  Trevor  mentions  in  his  earlier  post  the  fern  has  not  been  identified,  we  did  not  know  whether  we  could  grow  it  immersed  or  emmersed.  But  now  with  the  immense  knowledge  of  the  members  of  this  forum  along  with  the  experience  we  personally  have,  we  are  sure  to  do  much  better.
 
 The  western  Ghats  are  a  treasure  trove  of  Bio  diversity.  It  is  our  own  backyard.  We  have  seen  members  import  the  the  fishes  and  plants  available  locally  from  Singapore  etc.  All  that  needs  to  be  done  is  get  up  and  go.  
 
 Who  knows  what  else  we  will  find  this  time?
 
 Regards,
 Nayak.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 Trevor  Sir,
 
 
                                                 
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Cool,  If  there  are  any  more  guys  we  can  try  an  organize  another  vechile  since  the  first  one  is  full.  I  think  everyone  has  sufficient  time  to  decide.                

 
 What  vehicle  is  the  "first  one"  ?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 The  first  one  is  the  Tata  Indigo  Marina  saloon  owned  and  driven  by  Nayak.  Here  it  is  in  front  of  the  Sharavati  bridge  on  the  last  trip.
 
 
 We  sincerely  hope  the  second  vechile  will  be  the  powerful  tried  and  tested  four  wheel  drive  Scorpio  from  Chennai.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

                                                   
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We  sincerely  hope  the  second  vechile  will  be  the  powerful  tried  and  tested  four  wheel  drive  Scorpio  from  Chennai.                
We  sincerely  hope  the  second  vechile  will  be  the  powerful  tried  and  tested  four  wheel  drive  Scorpio,  white  color  from  Chennai.   Chuckle  
 
 How  can  you  missed  out  the  color.  Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 Hi  Trevor,
 
 Was  hoping  it's  the  red  pickup.  The  tried  &  test  Scorpio  is  ready  to  go.  But  no  news  from  the  rest  of  the  Chennai  guys.  
 
 I  hope  we  are  better  prepared  for  this  trip.
 
 

     
  • Team  should  consist  members  who  are  specialist  in  various  areas,  like  experts  on  fishes,  plants,  photography,  etc
     
  • Each  team  member's  roll  must  be  defined  &  restricted  to  1  or  2  functions.
     
  • Duplication  of  responsibility  must  be  avoided;  or  atleast  minimised.  (We  don't  want  4  photographers  &  1  fish  expert  )
     
  • General  public  &  tourist  must  be  discouraged  from  joining  the  group.
     
  • Entire  trip  must  be  planned  &  documented  so  that  time  is  not  wasted
     
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: A long fishy trip. Reply with quote

 Awesome  points  jotted  down  by  Ravi.   Clapping  
 
 Oh  boy!  how  I  wish  I  could  join  this  trip.....  when  are  you  guys  planning  something  down  south?
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