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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Puneit,  
                     Sponge  filters  are  very  good  (probably  the  best)  in  the  right  setting  (low  fish  loads),  I  have  them  in  all  my  setups  except  one.  A  lot  depends  on  the  size  and  type  of  sponge.  A  powerhead  and  spray  bar  is  a  good  idea  Smile  
 
 
                                                 
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(BTW  the  LFS  says  I  can  put  a  couple  of  more  pairs  in  the  tank)                

 
 The  lesson  here  is  to  not  patronise  that  particular  LFS...most  shop  owners  know  very  little  and  even  if  they  do  will  often  mislead  you  because  they  need  to  sell  stuff!!
 
 Re  the  stocking  levels,  the  barbs  alone  probably  total  about  18"  in  cumulative  length,  which  is  the  max  capacity  of  that  tank,  using  a  somewhat  useful  beginners  stocking  guide  (1  inch  of  fish  per  gallon  of  water)
 
 A  sump  is  overkill  for  a  small  tank,  your  current  setup  sounds  ok,  a  hang  on  the  back  filter  would  be  a  good  addition  to  the  sponge  filter.
 
 You  could  try  posting  in  the  sell/trade  forum  to  see  if  anyone  from  Delhi  is  willing  to  take  the  scats  and  monos  off  your  hands.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:54 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hang  on  back  filter??  Never  seen  one  beofre  in  a  LFS?  Is  it  expensive?  Can  it  be  done  DIY?
 I  arranged  two  more  small  tanks  from  a  glass  shop(for  very  less  price).  They  were  dumped  as  they  needed  repairs.  Repaired  them.  Now  will  transfer  surplus  fish  in  them.  
 Thanks  a  lot.
 Jenny..  I  ll  be  in  touch  with  you,  for  the  worm  culture,  once  she  plans  to  come  down  or  anyone  goes  to  meet  her.this  should  be  next  month.
 thanks  a  lot  again
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:44 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  Puneit!
 
 A  400  L/Hr  hang  on  filter  SUNSUN  will  cost  u  about  Rs.  500  or  so.  It  may  be  more  expensive  in  Delhi.  Just  check  out.  
 
 I  may  have  a  few  unused  ones  at  home  .  Will  post  tomorrow.
 
 I  have  followed  the  posts  in  this  thread  and  find  that  u  are  facing  the  most  common  problem.  All  hatcheries  &  LFS  guys  feed  live  bearers  only!  This  is  done  to  get  the  fish  size  to  increase  in  the  earliest  time.  They  are  not  bothered  about  what  happens  when  the  fish  is  sold.  If  they  die,  the  LFS  and  the  hatchery  guy  gets  repeat  business.  Have  u  wondered  why  goldfish  is  the  most  commonly  sold  fish  in  any  LFS  around  the  country??  he  answer  is  the  same  as  above.
 
 What  we  buy  has  been  fed  on  larvae,  microworms,  daphnia  (source  unknown)  till  such  time  that  it  reaches  the  LFS.  
 
 The  LFS  will  not  educate  u  about  this  aspect.  He  will  want  u  to  buy  those  nasty  worms  every  day  to  feed  the  fish.  
 
 Adip  has  some  culture.  Best    is  to  have  your  own  source  of  food.  When  i  as  breeding  oscars  -  i  had  three  4'  tanks  and  six  2'  tanks  only  for  home  bred  guppies  which  were  in  turn  food  for  the  oscars.
 
 One  more  thing,  decide  on  what  fish  u  want  to  keep,  u  really  like.  It's  best  to  have  a  few  which  grow  healthily  than  have  too  many  which  dont  make  it.  Believe  me  i  may  have  lost  thousands  by  now  in  my  eagerness  to  have  as  many  as  possible.
 
 Regards,
 Rama
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  Puneit,
 LFS  are  always  against  you  because  they  cant  run  their  shop  if  you  buy  a  molly  and  hold  it  for  5  long  years  or  more  and  breed'em  :twisted:    So  always  read  as  much  as  possible  before  buying.
 I'd  go  with  retro  and  there's  no  way  you  can  house  monos  &  scats  in  that  setup.    More  than  ammonia-cycle  monos  and  scats  need  more  swimming  areas  and  scats  need  magnessium  hardness  to  live  a  healthy  life.    So  with  your  sponge  filter  &  weekly  40%  WC  you  can  make  it  a  live  bearer  tank  with  mollies  &  sword  tails.
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 Thanks  for  your  support,  finally  gave  away  the  sacts.  LFS  said  he  won't  pay  back  cash,  I  can  buy  other  fish.  Well,  for  now,  I  have  sort  of  asked  him  to  keep  the  cash  and  the  fish,  I  shall  buy  more  when  I  need(  this  amount  goes  as  advance)  
 Wanted  to  give  away  Monos  too,  but  my  family  seems  to  like  them  a  lot.  So  those  poor  guys  have  to  compromise  and  live  with  me  only.
 One  more  query!
 What  size  and  species  feed  on  breeder  guppies?  
 I  have  been  surveying  Delhi  LFS,  most  of  them  are  very  very  expensive  and  they  lack  knowledge  and  stock.
 You  guys  would  have  to  help  me  with  starter  cultures,  as  no  LFS  can  arrange  it.  Most  don;t  even  know  that  live  Daphnia  exists!!  All  they  know  is  live  tubifex/blood  worms.  If  I  arrange  to  get  the  starter  cultured  picked  up;  will  they  survive  a  2  days  journey  in  train,  that  too  in  Indian  summers?  
 Is  Daphnia  net  different  from,  the  nets  sold  in  LFS?  Maybe  I  used  normal  net,  I  didn't  get  any  Daphnia  from  the  pond.
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Is  Daphnia  net  different  from,  the  nets  sold  in  LFS?  Maybe  I  used  normal  net,  I  didn't  get  any  Daphnia  from  the  pond.                

 
 I  know  the  answer  to  that!!!  Smile  Yes,  the  nets  are  different.  Nets  meant  for  Daphnia  are  very  fine.  Adip  educated  me  about  this  last  Sunday  and  I  immediately  picked  one  up.  It  is  a  Hagen  Nylon  Fish  Net.  Managed  to  catch  millions  of  mosquito  larvae  too.  
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: Hang on filter Reply with quote

 Puneit,
 
 found  one  hangon  filter.  do  u  still  require  same???
 
 Rama  :lol:
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 found  one  hangon  filter.  do  u  still  require  same???
 
 Rama  :lol:                

 What  would  be  the  cost  of  this?  Actually  have  gone  over-budget  this  month,  so  won't  be  going  for  more  equipment  right  now!  If  its  really  worth  the  price  then  I  may  consider.
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 i  think  i  can  help  you  with  daphnia  i  regularly  catch  daphnia.Daphnia  are  usually  found  in  freshwater  ponds  it  will  be  advisable  to  look  for  daphnia  in  pond  wher  water  is  stable.i  suggest  you  catch  them  at  darkness  take  a  small  torch  with  you  and  focus  it  on  the  water  you  will  see  some  small  dot  like  red  creatures  ariving  on  the  focus  light  then  with  your  daphnia  net  get  them.Daphnia  are  small  creatures  size=[  .  ]  dot  of  a  pen  .  if  its  not  possible  for  you  to  get  daphnia  net  just  tear  a  fine  cotton  cloth  in  squares  and  stitch  it  on  the  regular  fish  net  you  use  for  your  fishes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject: hang on filter Reply with quote

 Hi  Puneit,
 
 i  have  pm'd  the  price  for  the  hangon  filter.  courier  charges  woud  be  extra.
 
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