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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Hi  Friends,  for  last  3  years  I  was  using  Sony  W-5  (point  and  shoot).  I  am  really  happy  with  the  camera,  but  now  I  want  to  move  on  to  DSLR.  Please  help  me  choosing  a  DSLR.
 
 Some  points  to  check  while  suggesting.
 
 1.  Either  Canon  or  Nikon  
 
 2.  I  will  be  using  the  camera  mainly  for  Fish,  Nature  and  Landscsape  photography
 
 3.  6-8  Mp  will  be  enough  for  me.  Don't  wanna  go  for  a  10MP  one.
 
 4.  Need  a  camera  with  Fast  and  big  image  sensor
 
 Experts  please  comment.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 When  it  comes  to  camera  it  all  depends  on  how  big  your  pocket  is  and  most  of  the  time  not  based  on  what  you  are  going  to  do  with  it.
 
 Few  points  before  you  think  of  a  DSLR...
 
 1.  Â Are  you  going  to  shot  in  Manual  Mode?
 2.  Â How  frequently  you  use  the  macho  shot?
 3.  Â How  frequent  is  your  night/dim  light  shots?
 
 IMO,  if  your  answer  is  NO  to  the  first  question  and  very  less  /  No  to  the  rest  of  the  questions,  forget  about  DSLR's  and  think  of  a  high-end  P&S  camera.  Â See  the  output  Hayath  gets  from  his  Sony  H3,  right  now  you  get  Sony  H9  for  a  good  price.
 
 Am  sure  you  might  have  thought  about  all  these  before  decide  on  going  for  DSLR's...  if  not,  re-think.  Â If  you  made  up  your  mind,  Canon  and  Nikon  has  best  products  in  the  market  and  you  have  a  right  choice.  Â 
 
 All  I  can  say  is,  go  for  a  model  based  on  your  budget.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Hey  Tirtha,
 
 What  is  your  budget  and  how  soon  are  you  planning  to  buy  ?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Tirtha  Image  sensors  in  DSLR  come  is  2  sizes.
 
 APS-C  which  is  about  2/3  the  area  of  a  35  mm  negative  and  Full  Frame  -  exactly  the  size  of  a  35  mm  negative.
 
 Full  Frame  cameras  are  $  5000  +,  Nikon  D3,  Canon  1Ds  Mk  III
 
 You  will  be  buying  the  APS-C  sensor  camera.  Go  for  the  10  MP  camera.  These  cameras  have  more  features  than  the  6  MP  ones.  with  Some  of  the  Nikon/Canon  6  MP  camera  you  will  not  be  able  to  use  the  modern  lenses.  Your  camera  goes  out  of  date  in  3  years.  Lenses  will  last  you  15-20  years.
 
 More  than  the  DSLR  you  need  good  lenses.  The  kit  lens  that  comes  with  a  Canon  or  Nikon  DSLR  is  Edit.  When  you  want  to  sell  it  you  will  get  2k  for  it  no  more.
 
 For  Landscape  Photography  buy  a  50mm  f/1.8  prime  lens.  Cost  Rs.  5000  -  Nikon  or  Canon  to  begin  with.
 
 For  Fish  photography  you  will  need  a  macro  lens.  They  are  expensive.
 For  nature  (wildlife)  you  will  need  a  zoom  -  again  expensive.
 
 The  f  stop  of  the  lens  is  very  important  eg.,  f/1.8  ,  this  denotes  the  largest  aperture  of  the  lens,  larger  the  hole  through  which  light  can  pass  through,  more  light  gets  into  the  camera,  and  hence  you  can  increase  the  shutter  speed  to  get  the  same  bright  picture(almost,  DOF  being  of  little  consideration).  Higher  shutter  speed  =  faster  lens.
 
 Lens  other  than  the  50  mm  prime  I  mentioned  with  an  aperture  of  f/2.8  or  less  will  be  expensive.
 
 My  DSLR  Kit  until  now:
 
 Nikon  D  80
 Nikkor  17-55  mm  f/2.8  G  AF-S  ED-IF  DX  zoom.
 Nikkor  70-200  mm  f/2.8  G  AF-S  ED-IF  VR  zoom
 Nikkor  105  mm  f/2.8  G  ED-IF  AF-S  VR  Micro
 Sigma  50-  500  f/4  -  6.3  APO  DG  IF  EX  Zoom
 
 This  is  going  to  grow,  the  Sigma  will  be  replaced  by  a  500  f/4  prime  lens  when  I  can  find  one.  The  Sigma  is  a  very  slow  lens,  see  the  aperture  at  either  ends  of  the  zoom.  I  need  a  bright  sunny  day  to  use  the  lens.
 
 This  is  the  wrong  place  to  ask  about  DSLR,  you  have  people  using  Point  and  shoot  and  mobiles  here.
 
 Get  on  to  photography  forums  www.fredmiranda.com,  www.dpreview.com,  www.nikonian.org
 Read  up  there.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Tirtha,
 check  up  about  ultrazoom  cameras  too.  i  was  looking  for  a  DSLR  but  i  am  thinking  of  dropping  thatas  lens  will  get  pretty  exp.  way  over  my  budget..
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Tirth  bhai..it  all  comes  down  to  your  budget,  give  us  a  price  bracket  and  we  can  help  you  out  in  a  better  way!!  Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Completely  agree  with  Madan  and  Thillu  Smile
 
 The  three  categories  of  your  interest  need  3  different  lenses.  There  are  a  few  lens  which  give  you  17-200mm  or  so,  but  the  quality  would  not  be  the  same  as  specific  focal  length  lens.
 
 And  that  is  one  of  the  reasons  I  have  been  sticking  onto  my  Sony  H2,  I  can  shoot  macros,  landscape  and  Wildlife,  all  in  one  camera  Very Happy
 
 Though  I  must  accept  the  quality  of  a  DSLR  would  be  far  superior  Thumb Up
 
 Plus  for  "low-light"  and  "action"  shots,  you  would  need  a  "fast"  lens  (lower  'f'  number)
 
 The  DSLR  range  right  now  is  as  varied  as  it  can  get,  with  hobbyists  being  spoilt  for  choice.  I  feel  for  a  "decent"  kit,  a  budget  of  35K  would  be  minimum.
 
 All  the  best  mate  Thumb Up
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Hi  Tirtha,
 
 Check  Fujifilm's  S100FS  camera  its  afforable  and  excellent  value  for  money  with  Fujinon  14.3x  Optical  Zoom  28-400mm  (35mm  equivalent)  and  Wide  Dynamic  Range  up  to  400%  for  nature  photography.
 
 Check  the  sample  shots  Here  
 
 Fuji  website
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Try  Canon  350D  or  400D  see  this  site  
 
 http://www.dpreview.com/
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Tirtha,
 
 One  little  suggestion  on  camera  body,  you  dont  only  buy  the  body,  you  buy  into  the  whole  system,  so  read  a  lot  about  the  lenses.  Modern  bodies  are  all  great,you  wont  regret  buying  any  of  them.Also,  more  importantly  check  for  the  availability  of  lenses  from  the  system  locally.
 When  you  come  to  2  or  3  options,  go  to  the  store  and  hold  them  in  your  hands,  see  how  it  feels,  that  makes  a  hell  lot  of  a  difference.
 
 Coming  to  lenses,
 You  can't  do  landscape  with  50mm  prime  because  in  an  APS  c  sensor,  it  is  effectively  75mm(nikon  sensor,  canon  will  be  more)  which  is  quite  good  for  portraits.You  need  something  in  the  range  of  at  least  18mm(effectively  27mm)  to  start  off.
 
 For  fish  photos,  no  doubt  macro  is  the  best,  but  your  pocket  will  bleed.If  your  budget  permits,  go  for  a  macro  only  lens.  The  other  option  IMO  is  a  relatively  cheaper  third  party  ~300mm  zoom  lens  like  Sigma.  My  Sigma  70-300MM  is  usable  in  good  light  condition,  it  is  definitely  not  a  stunner  of  a  lens,  but  if  you  have  good  light,  you  can  work  with  it  with  a  little  bit  of  expertise  and  patience.
 
 See  photo(open  the  photo)  for  an  example  of  70-300mm.(Ofcourse  you  can  judge  it  as  shameless  self  promotion  Very Happy  )
 
 This  is  what  I  have
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 Nikon  D70  (I  know  it  is  obsolette,  but  I  love  mine)
 
 Nikkor  18-70mm  3.5-5.6
 Nikkor  50mm  1.8  prime
 Sigma  70-300mm  
 Sigma  10-20
 
 Nikon  SB  600  (Flash)
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 A  poor  guy  like  me  could  afford  this  because  I  bought  all  of  these  over  a  period  of  two  years  from  US  while  I  was  there  ,  as  they  are  a  little  cheaper  there  Â Thumbs Up  Â and  I  had  to  quit  smoking  to  save  for  the  flash  Â Surprised


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Thanks  every  one  for  your  kind  inputs.  
 
 @Madan  Sir....  a  great  write  up.  It  will  certainly  help  me  or  any  DSLR  to  choose  a  right  camera.  
 
 @Thillu..  In  W-5  I  got  few  manual  operation  along  with  the  inbuilt  modes.  I  got  excellent  results  while  doing  the  Landscape  Photography  with  it.  But  this  time  I  really  want  to  go  for  a  manual  operation.
 
 @Hayath:  Thanks  again  buddy.  And  you  hit  the  bulls  eye.  My  budget  is  within  30-35K.  I  will  go  slow,  but  will  get  the  stuffs  I  need.   Thumb Up  
 
 @Sujoy  Da,  Now  am  going  through  all  these  sites  to  compare  the  models.  Very  hard  task  to  execute.
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 antu  how  do  you  find  the  Sigma  10-20  mm  ?
 
 I  want  something  wider  than  the  17  mm,  and  was  looking  at  this  lens.
 
 I  am  holding  back  as  it  is  for  APS-C  sensor  bodies.  I  don't  want  all  the  wide  lenses  bunched  at  the  APS-C  sensor  end.
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 I  got  it  from  BH  Photovideos  a  year  back  while  I  was  in  the  US.
 I  dont  know  if  you  can  get  it  here.
 
 BH  still  shows  it  as  in  stock.
 
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?shs=sigma+10-20&ci=0&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=RootPage.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 I  can  get  the  lens  here.  That's  not  a  worry.  19K  or  there  abouts.  Bangalore  is  pretty  good  equipment  wise.
 
 How  good  is  this  lens?  Your  Personal  experience  with  the  lens?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Help Me Choosing A DSLR Reply with quote

 Thanks  Antu  for  the  info.  Then  we  can  say  hobby  can  get  over  to  the  addiction.   Chuckle  But  don't  know  when  the  spell  will  work  for  me  also.   Sad
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