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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Hi  Folks,
 I  am  planning  to  attempt  a  background  like  this.  Now  my  problem  is,  I  cannot  empty  my  tank,  which  has  dozens  of  fries  and  dozens  of  adult  fishes.  I  have  the  following  solutions
 1.  Cut  the  styrofoam  into  three-four  sections  and  paste  them  to  thin  granite  slabs  before  placing  them  inside  the  tank
 2.  tie  some  heavy  rocks  to  the  bottom  of  the  background  so  that  it  sinks  then  use  tape  from  the  top  to  paste
 
 Does  anybody  have  a  better  solution  ?
 
 Thanks  in  advance.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Sriram,
 
 The  best  would  be  to  keep  the  background  behind  the  glass(outside).  It  is  much  easier  to  clean  the  tanks.  I  have  pasted  my  3d  background  inside  the  tank  and  find  it  very  difficult  to  clean.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Thanks  Prem,  that  is  an  interesting  perspective.  But  I  won't  get  the  kick  for  my  work  if  I  make  something  that  would  be  placed  outside  the  tank.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Very  true  Sriram.  When  I  bought  the  3-d  background,  trevor  told  me  not  to  fix  it  inside  the  tank,  I  never  listened  and  I  stuck  the  background  on  my  4x2x2  tank,  it  really  looks  cool,  but  at  times  some  fishes  tend  to  bite  it  and  i  am  not  able  to  clean  it  very  well.  
 
 Anyways,  Good  luck  on  your  work  and  please  post  pictures  once  your  done.  
 
 Cheers,
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Make  an  acrylic  box  which  is  only  as  thick  as  your  styrofoam  is  going  to  be.  The  box  should  match  the  width  and  height  of  the  aquarium.  Your  background  would  then  be  fitted  inside  this  box  which  could  then  be  kept  inside  the  aquarium  -  making  it  removable  for  cleaning.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 hi  chiclidlove  -
 
   I  had   My  DIY  strayform  background   i  had  intented  to  keep  it  inside  ,  
 but  ended  up  keeping  it  in  the  back  of  the  Tank.  only  problem  in  keeping  the  
 strayform  inside  is  u  will  have  to  empty  the  Tnak  &  stick  the  bacground  firmly
 with  silicon  or  the  strayform  will  end  up  floating  up  in  the  tank,  this  can  also  kil
 l  the  fish  ,  as  if  the  fish  is  stuck  in  between  the  strayform  be4  it  floats  fishes  will
   end  up  on  the  surface  of  the  water  above  the  strayfoam!!
 
 also  chiclids  do  try  digging  into  the  background,
 
 or  may  be  u  can  give  glass  support  on  the  bottom  &  top  to  stop  the  background  from  floating
 up!
 
 here  is   picture  of  mine  which  i  had  kept  outside  the  tank
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Further  to  my  mail  -  
 
 One  could  use  just  an  'L'  shaped  acrylic  where  the  longer  end  matches  in  size  with  the  back  of  the  aquarium  glass.  The  smaller  end  of  the  L  helps  it  to  be  supported  in  the  back.
 
 The  styrofoam  could  be  fastened  (not  pasted)  using  thin  brass  'nut  and  bolt'  at  four  corners  and  the  center  of  the  acrylic  base.  This  would  not  be  very  visible  and  would  get  tarnished  over  a  period  of  time  to  blend  with  the  background  colour
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 @ginish...Your  background  looks  great!  but  one  thing  too  many  cuts  n  grooves  are  looking  a  bit  odd.  would  like  to  know  the  thickness  of  the  styrofoam  used.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 hi  Hamza
   Actally  the  background  looks  odd,  i  think  because  i  divided  the  bacground  into  3  pcs  /
 most  folish  thing  i  cut  it  in  a  straight  line  
 the  stray  forma  is  a  2"  
 
 @  chiclid  lover-  if  u  are  planing  to  keep  the  background  inside  divide  the  strayform  in  to  2/3  parts  but  along  the  grroves  of  the  rock
 
 i  had  made  one  more  for  my  frnd  last  week  with  strayfroam  but  di  not  cement  it  just  painted  it  with  poster  color  will  paste  the  image  later
 
 Thanks  N  regards
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Thanks  a  lot  gginish  for  the  tips.  Actually  I  want  to  keep  the  background  inside  but  I  may  not  be  able  to  empty  the  tank  now  (I  should  have  done  this  with  I  bought  the  tank,...).  This  is  definitely  going  to  be  challenging  since  I  have  to  make  it  sink  without  glueing  it  with  silicone.  I  still  need  more  tips  on  achieving  this.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 hae  cichlidloverActually  what  is  the  size  of  your  tank???
 mine  is  3ftx  18x18,  and  the  thermocol  sheet  was  2"  thick  &  the  buoyancy
 of  the  thermocol  was  really  heavy  to  push  up  Heavy  Rocks  
 
 Or  the  best  would  be  to  make  A  fibre  of  moulded  background!!
 
 thanks  
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Is  it  possible  to  paint  a  piece  of  grey  cloth  to  look  like  rock  formation  and  clip  it  behind  the  tank?
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Attempting a styrofoam background, tips needed Reply with quote

 Hi  Ginish,
 The  tank  size  is  4-2-2.  
 How  do  we  make  molded  fiber  backgrounds  ?
 
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 4x2x2  ohh
 the  buoyancy  of  the  thermocol  will  be  really  high,  even  u  will  float  if  u  lay  on  top  of  it  &  it  wont  sink  ROFL  
 
 u  get  some  Epoxy,  or  fibre  moulding  chemicals  ,  but  i  think  its  goin  to  be  to  xpensive  for  such  a  large  size
 
 1  thing  just  stuck  my  mind  ,  if  u  make  a  thermocil  background  &   cement  it  like  i  did,  must  be  a  thickcoat  ,with  some  hairnet  between  2  coats  &  then  divide  the  full  bacground  into  4  parts  and  after  a  week  of  proper  drying  if  u  could  melt  of  the  thermocol  with  heat  (dont  put  it  in  fire   )  untill  only  the  cement  is  left  behind  may  be  u  could  do  it   !!   what  say  !!!Shocked  (  ill  go  home  &  see  what  will  be  the  result  if  u  melt  it  with  a  hairsdrier)  
 any  way  ill  be  making  new  background  for  mine  since  mansson  is  goin  to  be  here  u  can  cure  it
 for  free  if  u  put  those  cemnt  backgroun  in  the  terrece   Cheer  
 
 u  can  just  check  it--  if  it  works  good  -  
 
 
 thanks  
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