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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject: Tubifex worms are bad worms Reply with quote

 hi  fish  lovers,
 never  feed  your  fish  with  nice  worms  they  carry  all  kind  of  harmful  organism  that  affect  the  fish.  Mad
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...nice  worms...                  

 
 Well,  what  are  those??...  Rolling Eyes
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 I  guess  its  Tubifex  Worms.  Nice  in  Tamil  means  very  fine  or  thin
 
 Pandian,
 Check  out  this  link  
 
 http://www.naturalvisions.co.uk/pictures/thumbnail/XXFW_0059_0018XX.jpg
 
 Is  it  the  same  worms  you  are  refering?
 
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 He  is  referring  to  Tubifex  worms.  They  are  called  nice  worms  in  local  lfs  slang  as  they  are  thin  Very Happy
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 It  is  known  that  tubifex  from  trusted  sources  are  safe,  but  yes  there  are  still  precautions  to  be  followed  while  feeding  them,  and  a  risk  invovled.  
 I  give  them  a  Betadine  wash  as  adviced  by  Mr  Raj.
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 Hell  all  kinda  worms  are  BAD!!  :twisted:    :twisted:    :twisted:    :twisted:
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 Mumbai-disucs,
 I  used  to  think  the  same  that  all  worms  are  bad,  but  then  we  have  good  worms  too.  Earthworms,  microworms,  grindal  worms,  vineger  eels,  etc.
 Also  I  remember  seeing    a  documentary  on  Discovery  channel  which  showed  that  worms  are  necessary  for  survival  of  humans.  They  showed  the  a  lady  had  severe  digestion  problems  over  the  years  and  what  was  discovered  is  that  her  immune  system  was  too  strong  that  it  rejected  her  own  lining  of  the  digestive  tract.  Also  it  was  discovered  that  she  never  suffered  from  worm  infestation.  Then  the  doctors  tried  something  new.  They  fed  her  parasitic  worms.  These  worms  secreted  chemicals  which  counter-reacted  with  her  body's  overly  active  immune  system  and  thus  her  lining  of  the  gut  was  spared.  She  improved  drastically.
 Also  there  are  incidents  where  fly  larve  are  used  to  treat  gangrene  in  diabetics.  
 And  then  there  are  leeches  which  have  been  used  for  centuries  by  man-kind  for  numerous  reasons.
 Everything  in  nature  is  interlinked,  there  is  a  delicate  balance.  Eliminate  one  organism  the  balance  tumbles.  
 Coming  back  to  fish,  we  know  that  most  of  the  time  its  tubifex  which  is  fed  to  fish  in  fish  farms,  before  it  comes  to  us  as  a  staple  food.  
 I  feel,  worms  are  good  as  long  as  you  can  have  control  over  them  completely.
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 Mumbai-  discus  Wrote:
 
                                                 
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Hell  all  kinda  worms  are  BAD!!                

 
 Well  then  what  do  you  say  about  freeze  dried  blood  worms  which  your  discus  might  cherish  on???  :twisted:
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 frozeen  dried  worm  contain  spores  of  parasites  (both  internal  and  external)  :twisted:    and  also  contain  Bact.  :twisted:    and  virus.  :twisted:    because  they  are  caught  from  sewage.  :twisted:
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 But  blood  worms  are  the  food  feed  to  fishs  in  breeding  farms.
 they  are  safer  then  nice  worms(tubifex),  because  then  are  free  from  sewage  ie  nice  worms  hold  sewage(biomass)  in  centre  wich  cant  be  cleaned  completely,  but  that  is  not  the  case  in  blood  worms,  they  are  free  moving  and  considered  to  be  more  safe  then  the  former.  Very Happy
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 It  is  incorrect  to  label  all  worms  as  bad...it  depends  on  the  source  of  collection.  Farmed/home-cultured  worms  are  an  important  (sometimes  invaluable)  source  of  protein.
 
 <-----  feeds  his  fish  worms!!!
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 Tubifex  worms  are  best  growth  inducers.    Even  BHM  cant  bring  out  such  a  fast  growth.    But  in  the  case  of  tubifex  the  curse  that  comes  with  it  is  more  dramatic  than  its  positive  effects.    Even  after  assuming  that  the  source  of  tubifex  worms  is  reliable,  it  brings  out  other  'side-effects'.    Experiments  have  proved  that  discus  become  ill-shaped  when  fed  with  tubifex  worms  ie.,  dispropotionate  finnage  to  body  shape  &  size.
 And  if  you  are  getting  tubifex  from  an  lfs,  you  are  certainly  doomed    :evil:
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 Well  i  still  repeat,  reiterate,  confirm  and  adhere  to  my  earlier  statement!!  I  WILL  NEVER  EVER  HAVE  MY  FISH  EAT  ANYTHING  LIVE  (except  the  baby  brine  that  is  hatched  at  home  ofcourse)!!
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 Hi,
 
 Well  well....  we  just  about  finished  with  a  discussion  on  fertilizers(ya  the  one  about  cow  dung,  horse  dung  and  other  kiinds  of  refuse)  and  now  its  over  to  worms!!    :lol:  
 
 When  I  used  to  feed  fish  tubifex,  I  found  a  simple  way  of  getting  rid  of  the  biomass.  use  a  worm  feeder,  dunk  the  worms  in  in  and  keep  the  setup  in  a  cubical  plastic  box  using  the  vaccum  cup  for  attaching  it.
 
 Wait  for  an  hour  and  you  find  that  the  worms  have  made  good  their  escape  from  the  feeder  and  have  collected  at  the  bottom  of  the  container.  Clear  the  waste  from  the  feeder!  Simple!
 
 However,  I  am  still  searching  for  a  way  of  disinfecting  the  worms  before  feeding  them  to  the  fish.  I  do  not  want  the  disinfectant  to  act  on  my  fish  and  make  my  aquariums  lifeless.
 
 I  once  spoke  to  a  hobbyist  doctor  who  blew  up  his  top  when  we  discussed  using  an  antibiotic  on  the  worms  for  disinfecting  them.  He  said  that  doing  such  things  ended  in  making  the  bacteria  resistant  to  antibiotics  and  created  new  strains.    :twisted:  
 
 What  are  we  say??
 
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 Check  out  this  thread  for  cleaning/disinfecting  worms  -
 
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