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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:30 am Post subject: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape : Month 2 update Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 
 First  of  all  I  am  keeping  my  name  instead  of  just  'My'  on  the  topic  just  for  the  ease  of  distinguishing.
 
 Now  here  is  how  it  goes....
 As  most  of  the  hobbyist  I  was  also  very  much  attracted  to  the  south  American  style  of  aquascaping(I  really  don't  know  why  the  scapes  with  riverbed  kind  of  setup  is  called  south  american  Chuckle   and  I  also  don't  know  how  many  other  styles  are  there  and  what  all  are  they).
 My  initial  plan  was  for  a  6feet  X  2  feet  X  2  Feet  tank  but  as  I  realized  that  I  cant  such  a  monster  until  I  get  a  house  for  myself  in  Bangalore  I  downsized  it  to  the  below  tank.  If  god  allows  I  will  the  6  footer  planted  tank  will  be  done  in  future  Smile  .
 
 About  the  specs  
 Name:  Walk  to  the  dreams(Since  this  scape  is  hopefully  a  pit-stop  until  I  make  my  dream  scape,  the  6footer  Very Happy  )
 Size:  36  inches  X  24  inches  X  20  inches(L  X  B  X  H)
 Filter:  Sun  sun  302(considering  that  I  have  around  45  liters  of  hardscape  my  water  capacity  will  be  225  liters  so  it  will  have  4+  tank  volume/hr  flow  rate).  I  have  aquaclay  balls  +  ceramic  rings  +  sponge  as  the  media.  I  will  be  adding  one  boyu  powerhead  of  300liter/hr  later  when  my  Hc  cuba  gets  settled.
 Lights:  4X  36  watt  High  output  Pll  from  Osram  of  6500K
 Substrate:  Controsoil  +  decorative  sand
 Hardscape:  acrylic  sheets  for  substrate  seperation,  Rocks  I  collected  (http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31892&highlight=kolhati),I  also  broke  the  rock  in  this  link  to  make  all  of  my  right  side  part(http://www.flickr.com/photos/77876644@N03/7599049032/in/photostream),ADA  drift  wood  from  Manoj,Driftwood  I  prepared  in  6  months  duration  is  the  one  on  right  side
 Co2:  pressurized  Co2  setup(5kg  cylinder  with  ESAB   dual  gauge  single  stage  regulator,Chinese  made  solenoid,Boyu  diffuser,brass  needle  valve)
 Lighting  Plan:  8  Hrs  of  lighting  split  on  6:00  am  to  10:00  am  and  6:00  pm  to  10:00  pm
 Co2  Plan:  4  Bps  in  the  start  when  the  tank  is  getting  cycled.  which  I  believe  would  be  complete  by  1  month  and  then  reduce  it  to  2  bps  when  I  will  be  adding  fishes  after  1  month.  Initial  high  Co2  is  for  the  emersed  grown  plants,  that  I  might  get  from  the  suppliers,  to  get  acclimatised  to  submerged  growth
 Plants:  Java  Fern  Normal(They  are  a  maximum  of  12cm  I  am  not  sure  of  it  is  any  other  variant),Java  fern  windelov,Anubias  barteri  var.  nana,  Anubias  nana  var.  'Petite',Anubias  barteri  var.  nana  "Gold",Anubias  minima,  Anubias  barteri  var.  nana  "coffeefolia",Anubias  barteri  var.  "round  leaf",Staurogyne  repens,  Eleocharis  parvula(shortest  hair  grass),Flame  moss,Hemianthus  callitrichoides  ”Cuba”,Echinodorus  parviflorus  'Tropica',   Hydrocotyle   tripartita,Hemianthus  micranthemoides,Rotala  rotundifolia  red,Rotala  sp.  green,Hygrophila  polysperma,Limnophila  aromatica,Blyxa  Japonica,Ludwigia  arcuata,
 
 Fishes  :  Otocinclus  Catfish(6no.),  Albino  Bristlenose  Pleco(2  no),  Threadfin  Rainbowfish(20  no.s),Rummy  Nose  Tetra(10  nos),White  Cloud  Mountain  Minnow(10  no.,  I  might  even  go  for  Harlequin  rasbora  if  they  are  compatible  with  thread  fin  rainbow),  I  will  also  be  adding  Red  cherry  shrimps  when  my  plants  grow  up(New  bees  don't  do  this,  I  am  doing  this  taking  into  account  that  some  of  the  shrimplets  will  be  eaten  by  the  fishes)
 The  below  picture  is  how  I  kept  the  acrylic  sheets  to  separate  the  decorative  sand  from  controsoil.  I  took  this  Idea  from  the  scapes  done  by  James  Findley.I  also  have  kept  it  at  few  other  places  to  keep  the  slope
 
 
 
 The  below  picture  is  the  actual  angle  by  which  the  scape  is  to  be  viewed
 
 
 
 Below  is  the  picture  is  the  view  in  opposite  direction
 
 
 
 Below  is  the  top  view
 
 
 
 Below  is  how  I  have  planned  the  plant  placement......  Please  let  me  know  your  suggestions.  
 
 
 
 Here  the  how  it  translates
 A  --  Hemianthus  callitrichoides  ”Cuba”
 B  --  Flame  Moss
 C  --  Anubias  nana(Under  the  wood)
 D  --  Hydrocotyle   tripartita
 E  --  Echinodorus  parviflorus  'Tropica'
 F  --  Marsilea  hirsuta
 G  --  Hemianthus  micranthemoides  
 H  --  Rotola  rotundifolia  red
 I  --  Rotala  sp.  green
 J  --  Blyxa  Japonica
 K  --  Ludwigia  arcuata
 L  --  Limnophila  aromatica  and  Alternanthera  reineckii
 M  --  Hygrophila  polysperma
 N  --  Java  fern  Normal
 O  --  Java  fern  windelov
 P  --  Anubias  minima
 Q  --  Anubias  barteri  nana  var.  'Petite'  
 R  --  Anubias  barteri  var.  nana  "Gold"
 S  --  Anubias  barteri  var.  nana  "coffeefolia"
 T  --  Anubias  barteri  var.  "round  leaf"
 U  --  Staurogyne  repens
 
 
 Please  let  me  know;  if  I  need  to  make  any  changes  to  make  it  look  better,  since  I  will  be  planting  it  only  after  my  vacation.
 That  means  I  can  wait  till  January  1st  week  for  your  suggestions  Very HappyMarsilea  hirsutaALTERNANTHERA  REINECKII


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Subscribed  Jabba  ...  Great  planning  ...  Looking  forward  to  develpments
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Do  however  look  for  better  rocks  for  the  scape.  The  current  ones  look  a  little  out  of  place.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Man  great  start,  looking  forward  further  for  updates  and  all  the  best.
 Going  to  watch  eagerly  how  its  progressing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Great  Looking  Jaba,   Please  update  with  your  project  Progress.   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Darius,Dotfish,Ruchit,Ganesaa  thanks  a  lot  for  the  response.
 It  gives  lot  of  encouragement  Clapping   Clapping  .
 
 Darius:  About  the  rocks  are  you  talking  about  the  one  in  right  side  which  I  have  arranged  as  border.
 If  yes  then  my  idea  is  that  the  carpet  plants  may  take   over  half  of  the  upper  portion  of  these  rocks.
 So  they  will  just  look  like  cliff  face.  My  whole  idea  in  the  selection  of  rocks  and  plants  here  is  to  create  depth  towards  back  and  towards  right  of  the  river  in  the  scape.
 This  depth  I  am  trying  to  achieve  is  attempted  through  use  of  smaller  rocks  towards  the  back  and  right.  Also,  in  the  order  that  plants  with  larger  leaves  come  to  the  front  and  with  smaller  leaf  come  to  the  back  and  right  side(of  the  river)  of  the  scape.  I  am  planning  to  trim  the  plants  with  larger  leaf  in  the  front  to  make  way  for  the  viewer  to  see  the  plants  with  smaller  leaf  in  the  back.
   The  only  space  I  am  breaking  this  rule  is  the  front  right  portion,  where  I  am  using  hairgrass  as  in  the  back  it  has  HC  cuba  which  has  distinct  leafs.This  is  because  the  front  portion  will  be  less  illuminated  than  the  back  as  I  have  anubias  there  so  I  just  swiched  places  for  HC  and  hair  grass.  I  also  do  have  an  idea  of  mixing  Marsila  Hirasuta  that  I  already  have  with  hairgrass  in  the  front(Section  F).
 
 Thanks  a  lot  Darius  once  again  I  am  really  looking  forward  for  such  suggestions.  Do  let  me  know  if  the  rocks  still  looks  odd  after  the  visualization  I  gave.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Good  planning.....post  some  final  pics  when  the  job  is  done........  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Hi  Jabba,
 Substrate:  Controsoil  +  decorative  sand  
 Both  the  side  i.e  left  and  right  contrasoil  and  middle  decorative  sand.   Am  I  right?
 What  is  decorative  sand?   Where  it  is  available?   What  is  the  use?
 All  the  best.   Proceed,
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 2  cents  from  me:
 
 1)  Wood  is  way  too  small  plants  will  out  grow  it  no  time,  try  to  arrange  for  multiple  to  make  it  look  big  or  get  bigger  ones.
 2)  If  you  are  going  with  perspective  depth  as  a  concept  -  with  likes  of  the  ferns  and  the  huge  anubias  I  really  doubt  how  much  of  the  HC's  beauty  will  actually  be  visible  in  due  time.  Have  an  eye  out  for  it..
 
 other  than  that  a  good  start!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Hey,  I'm  sure  that  I  can  also  wait  till  Jan  1st  week.  Then  follow  this  thread  closely  to  witness  all  the  processes  of  a  Great  Scape....!!
 'Cause,  after  seeing  your  layout  for  the  scape,  I've  decided  to  make  one  with  my  3.5ft  tank.  Cheer
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Thank  you  Deba,Zico,Keluthi,radjanair
 
 @radganair,
 Yes  you  are  correct
 By  decorative  sand  I  meant  the  quartz  sand  or  fine  river  sand  that  I  used  as  river.
 You  can  use  the  fine  sized  river  sand  and  also  the  sugar  sand(As  LFS  say)  if  you  dont  have  any  problem  with  the  artificiality.  
 
 @  Zico,
 
 1.  Just  behind  the  wood  it  will  be  staurogyne  repens  and  in  front  of  it  will  be  anubia  nana  gold(I  may  replace  it  with  pettite  when  I  introduce  plants).  both  are  small.  The  stem  plants  will  be  beside  it.
 2.  The  ferns  and  big  anubias  is  in  the  left  corner  where  as  HC  cuba  is  in  the  right  back  side.  There  is  lots  of  distance  between  them.
 At  the  right  side  there  will  only  be  pettite.
 My  idea  is  when  we  look  from  the  actual  angle(that  I  have  posted  the  pic)  the  right  hill  should  look  like  it  is  far  away.
 
 I  have  a  question.  What  colour  background  will  be  good.  I  am  planning  for  the  black  Styrofoam  kind  of  thing  that  we  keep  at  the  bottom  of  the  tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Good  going  Jabba.   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Walk to the dreams: Jaiby's second scape Reply with quote

 Nice  try!  
 
 Agree  with  Zico.  another  thing  I  noticed  is  that,  there  are  alot  of  varieties  of  plantsfor  this  scape.   try  minimise  the  planting  with  not  more  than  2  to  3  varieties  of  stems  including  carpet  plants.  excluding  Anubias  and  moss.  
 
 Otherwise  is  a  good  start.
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