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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 You  can  always  get  second  hand  tanks  for  cheap  ,  some  people  give  them  away  for  free  too..  You  just  need  to  be  patient  and  wait  for  an  opportunity..  And  I  don't  mind  using  normal  fluorescent  bulbs  as  long  as  they  have  6500k  mentioned  on  them..  (Yes  all  my  plants  live  but  my  tanks  are  smallish).  But  you're  totally  right  about  the  creativity..  A  rich  guy  can  buy  Windsor  and  Newton  to  paint  but  a  guy  with  Camlin  may  be  a  thousand  times  better  talented.  Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 Exactly  .........right  you  are  .......
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 @Kunfu  Panda  &  Bettalover27  ...  
 Bang  On!   thats  what  i  want  to  say.....!!  thanks  Both  of  you!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 Hi,  every  body!
 i  agree  with  KungFuPanda,Agree  
   
                                                 
KungFuPanda  wrote  (View  Post):                
Nice  debate
 
 You  require  money  for  hobby!  Okay  you  can  collect  driftwood...rocks...etc  but  can  you  collect  tanks  and  light?  
 About  beauty  of  the  tank....a  rich  spoiled  brat  can  get  all  the  top  equipment  but  if  he  has  no  creativity  ...the  tank  will  suck  
 On  the  other  hand,  a  middle  class  will  get  some  cheap  stuff  and  if  he  has  the  creativity  the  the  scape  will  look  wonder!  
 I  guess  no  very  very  poor  person  can  afford  this  hobby  ....he  has  other  priorities  other  than  to  keep  fish  
 
 So  all  depend  on  creativity  and  attitude  rather  than  money  but  yes  little  or  more  money  is  requred                

 
 and  also  with  Abhi  da   Bow  
 
 
                                                 
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Totally  agree  with  Kastor48252,  Nisha  &  TheChannaGuy..........I  know  very  well  how  I  start  around  35  years  ago  when  I  didn't  get  any  single  money  from  my  parents............But  without  interrupting  a  single  day  till  today  I  continue  it.........I  remember  those  days  but  never  surrender  till  now…..One  thing  I  am  sure  if  you  have  DEDICATION  money  does  not  matter  at  all......                

 
 The  main  thing  is  Dedication  to  the  Hobby,  but  Money  is  very  special  thing  to  the  hobby.  As  your  hobby  grow  up  day  by  day,  more  money  required  to  maintain  the  hobby,  otherwise  you  should  forced  yourself  to  stop  at  somewhere  (unwillingly).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 In  my  opinion  any  hobby  requires  a  certain  level  of  dedication  and  expenditure  both  in  terms  of  money  &  labour.
 Those  with  lots  of  money  spent  more  money  and  maybe  less  labour,  those  with  lesser  money  (like  me)  Very Happy   spent  more  labour  and  less  money.
 One  of  the  major  advantages  of  having  lots  of  money  is  that  you  can  achieve  your  desired  goal  in  a  ahorter  period  of  time.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 I  agree  with  Abhi  and  others  and  keeping  fish  is  a  matter  of  heart  and  soul.  
 We  used  to  keep  fishes  in  bottles  and  always  dream  to  have  a  tank  with  fishes  and  equipments..but  the  keeping  the  interest  and  hobby  intact,are  very  important  !!
 
 On  a  lighter  note,keeping  fish  and  breeding  them  and  afterwards  selling  them  is  definitely  directly  proportional  to  money...a  lot  of  money   Chuckle  
 Then  people  moving  completely  into  this  business  and  opening  their  own  LFS  is  again  big  money...  ROFL  
 But  again  you  will  find  the  interest  and  hobby  is  INTACT  !!!!!!!  but  added  a  different  dimension  to  the  fish  keeping.
 
 Jokes  apart  guys,  truly  touched  by  the  replies  Very Happy  
 
 Long  Live  IAH  and  Long  live  IAHians!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

                                                   
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In  my  opinion  any  hobby  requires  a  certain  level  of  dedication  and  expenditure  both  in  terms  of  money  &  labour.
 Those  with  lots  of  money  spent  more  money  and  maybe  less  labour,  those  with  lesser  money  (like  me)  Very Happy   spent  more  labour  and  less  money.
 One  of  the  major  advantages  of  having  lots  of  money  is  that  you  can  achieve  your  desired  goal  in  a  ahorter  period  of  time.                

 
 I  second  this  -  as  this  is  the  simplest  statement  in  this  post  which  is  absolutely  true.
 
 However,  I  would  like  to  add  my  bit  here  -
 
 There  is  a  saying  in  which  I  always  believe  -  '  Experience  is  what  you  get  when  you  don't  get  what  you  want  '
 
 Money  helps  to  get  Convenience  but  it  also  silently  and  unknowingly  kills  your  learning  -  as  the  wealthy  person  tends  to  '  get  it  done  '  rathen  than  dirtying  hands.
 
 So,  if  one  wants  EXPERIENCE  and  not  CONVENIENCE,  it  would  help  to  be  poor  !!  (accept  limitation  as  challenge)
 But  one  the  other  hand,  if  one  wants  CONVENIENCE  and  probably  less  EXPERIENCE  -  it  would  definitely  help  to  be  rich  !!  Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 Wow  Guys....!!   thanks  for  the  valueble  replies....  truely  i  appreciate  what  point  everybody  has  kept.....  Clapping  !  whatever  factors  it  may  be  our  Hobby  ,  Dedication  and  IAH  Rocks  Smile   Rock On
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 You  DO  need  a  certain  amount  of  money  to  get  into  any  hobby...aka  "Seeding  Money".  dont  tell  me  that  some  one  who  isnt  employed  or  a  non  earning  hobbyist  makes  his  own  glass  to  make  the  tank  or  builds  his  own  lights.  The  difference  is  only  serious  hobbyist  stick  with  the  hobby  the  rest  sell  and  move  away  if  they  fail.  Glass  and  lightin  is  no  way  cheap!  especially  if  your  into  planted  tanks.  H  E  double  hockey  sticks  to  have  the  damn  thing  running  the  way  it  should  would  kill  someone  who  doesnt  have  the  means  to  maintaining  his  tank.
 
 if  you  do  take  the  time  to  do  the  maths,  even  the  basic  requirements  for  an  indoor  lush  planted  tank  is  nothing  lesser  than  an  arm  or  a  leg.  I  am  yet  to  see  a  below  average  income  fishkeeper  who  is  willing  to  starve  him  self  for  the  hobby.  I  have  however  seen  some  artists  and  musicians  who  are  willing  to  do  so  and  continue  to  do  so  till  they  make  it  big.  yes  you  will  say  its  not  the  same  and  i  agree  but  every  great  artist  or  musician  started  out  as  a  hobbyist.  no  one  decided  to  a  famous  painter  or  artist  at  the  drop  of  an  hat.
 
 Am  sorry  but  this  hobby  after  photography  is  one  of  the  most  expensive  ones  out  there  and  brand  name  materials  make  it  all  the  more  expensive.  People  who  do  not  wanna  spend  money  on  stuff  or  do  not  have  the  ability  to  spend  for  it  make  do  with  what  they  can  however  they  feel  is  appropriate  hence  the  DIY  side  projects.  i  have  deep  pockets.  but  i  wouldnt  be  caught  dead  investing  in  a  40k  odd  chiller  for  my  tank.   i  would  rather  invest  that  money  on  a  new  sound  system  for  my  car  instead.  i  would  blow  up  40k  for  a  chiller  if   my  tank  was  worth  in  the  millions  but  bottom  line  it  isnt.  its  a  few  grands  tops.  why  would  any  sane  person  blow  up  that  much  money  on  something  thats  not  even  1/4  the  cost  of  the  item  it  self?  
 
 Its  only  the  rich  impatient  people  who  splurge  money  around  cos  they  want  it  bad  and  wanted  it  last  year  even  though  they  would  have  just  woken  up  and  said  OK  today  i  want  a  tank  in  my  house!  its  these  people  that  keeps  the  local  fish  stores  running  and  creates  a  brand  for  the  hobby  there  by  making  a  lotta  stuff  unreachable  for  your  average  person.  
 
 Money  does  get  u  the  best  but  you  dont  always  need  the  best.  you  need  the  passion  to  stick  with  a  hobby.  what  ever  it  may  be.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  agree  with  Abhi  and  others  and  keeping  fish  is  a  matter  of  heart  and  soul.  
 We  used  to  keep  fishes  in  bottles  and  always  dream  to  have  a  tank  with  fishes  and  equipments..but  the  keeping  the  interest  and  hobby  intact,are  very  important  !!
 
 On  a  lighter  note,keeping  fish  and  breeding  them  and  afterwards  selling  them  is  definitely  directly  proportional  to  money...a  lot  of  money   Chuckle  
 Then  people  moving  completely  into  this  business  and  opening  their  own  LFS  is  again  big  money...  ROFL  
 But  again  you  will  find  the  interest  and  hobby  is  INTACT  !!!!!!!  but  added  a  different  dimension  to  the  fish  keeping.
 
 Jokes  apart  guys,  truly  touched  by  the  replies  Very Happy  
 
 Long  Live  IAH  and  Long  live  IAHians!!                

 
 thanks  for  covering  that  angle  too   Smile
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Matsyapremi  wrote  (View  Post):                
                                                 
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In  my  opinion  any  hobby  requires  a  certain  level  of  dedication  and  expenditure  both  in  terms  of  money  &  labour.
 Those  with  lots  of  money  spent  more  money  and  maybe  less  labour,  those  with  lesser  money  (like  me)  Very Happy   spent  more  labour  and  less  money.
 One  of  the  major  advantages  of  having  lots  of  money  is  that  you  can  achieve  your  desired  goal  in  a  ahorter  period  of  time.                

 
 I  second  this  -  as  this  is  the  simplest  statement  in  this  post  which  is  absolutely  true.
 
 However,  I  would  like  to  add  my  bit  here  -
 
 There  is  a  saying  in  which  I  always  believe  -  '  Experience  is  what  you  get  when  you  don't  get  what  you  want  '
 
 Money  helps  to  get  Convenience  but  it  also  silently  and  unknowingly  kills  your  learning  -  as  the  wealthy  person  tends  to  '  get  it  done  '  rathen  than  dirtying  hands.
 
 So,  if  one  wants  EXPERIENCE  and  not  CONVENIENCE,  it  would  help  to  be  poor  !!  (accept  limitation  as  challenge)
 But  one  the  other  hand,  if  one  wants  CONVENIENCE  and  probably  less  EXPERIENCE  -  it  would  definitely  help  to  be  rich  !!  Smile                

 
 jhakaas  matsyapremi    Clapping   
 yes  there  is  the  angle  of  experience  gained  from  the  hobby  by  committing  mistakes  and  learning  from  them
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 well  put  zakk   Thumb Up  
 that  coming  from  a  rich  hobbyist  like  you  underlines  my  point  about  absence  of  direct  proportionality
 had  it  been  the  case,  you  would  have  been  one  of  the  highest  spenders  in  the  hobby
 just  differing  on  the  point  about  artists  and  singers.  like  you  said,  these  guys  starve  in  the  hope  of  making  it  big  someday.  that  is,  their  motivation  is  fame  and  wealth.
 that  is  not  the  case  with  the  aquarium  hobbyist.  we  put  our  best  in  the  hobby  in  the  hope  of  keeping  our  fish  happy  and  bringing  smiles  to  our  faces.  we  dont  strive  for  materialistic  gains.  so  whatever  little  we  sacrifice,  it  matters  much  on  a  spiritual  scale  than  some  singers  and  artists,  whose  goals  are  ultimately  materialistic.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

                                                   
Manish  wrote  (View  Post):                
Wow  Guys....!!   thanks  for  the  valueble  replies....  truely  i  appreciate  what  point  everybody  has  kept.....  Clapping  !  whatever  factors  it  may  be  our  Hobby  ,  Dedication  and  IAH  Rocks  Smile   Rock On                

 
 cant  agree  more  on  that  with  you  manish.   Thumb Up  
   Cheering   this  is  for  iah  and  the  hobby   Rock On
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

 I  would  say  money  is  a  factor  in  this  hobby  but  it  isnt  a  limiting  factor.  There  is  so  much  a  hobbyist  can  do  to  make  up  for  it  and  to  eventually  get  the  tank  that  they  want.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: our Hobby directly proportional to money ?? Reply with quote

                                                   
Mortis  wrote  (View  Post):                
I  would  say  money  is  a  factor  in  this  hobby  but  it  isnt  a  limiting  factor.  There  is  so  much  a  hobbyist  can  do  to  make  up  for  it  and  to  eventually  get  the  tank  that  they  want.                
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