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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 @deepak:  Thank  you  for  posting  the  detailed  description  on  preventing  mites  in  grindal  worm  culture.
 I  will  try  the  method  you've  posted.
 But  what  is  the  reason  that  I  have  mites  in  the  culture?  Can  you  please  point  what  is  it  that  I  am  doing  wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:07 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 Chetesh  its  not  like  you  doing  anything  wrong.  These  mites  are  everywhere  and  every  corner.  They  get  attracted  by  moist  and  damp  conditions  for  reproduction.  And  theirs  food  too.  But  we  just  keep  them  in  control.  Until  someone  posts  a  better  idea.BTW..  these  mites  are  good  food  for  tetras  and  small  varieties.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 Okay...Thank  you  deepak...I'm  convinced  now....  Smile  
 Was  worried  a  bit  earlier...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:35 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Remember  ...  this  process  is  very  stressful  to  the  worms.  You  might  not  get  a  good  yeld  for  a  few  days.                

 
 Yes  keeping  the  worms  submerged  in  water  can  drown  them  and  with  cocopeat  I  used  to  do  a  straining/rinsing  regularly  but  Omkar  recommends  that  doing  that  drowns  them  and  the  culture  starts  smelling  and  then  it  goes  bad.
 
 So  instead  of  filling  it  with  water  I  spray  a  bit  and  drain  excess  water
 
 Deepak  is  it  ok  to  mix  the  cocopeat  with  a  fork  now  and  then  to  free  gas/amonia  ?  When  I  did  that  with  one  of  my  cultures  I  have  to  wait  for  a  3-4  days  to  get  a  good  harvest  again  and  sometime  it  starts  smelling  bad.
 
 But  if  I  let  it  remain  as  it  is  (the  bigger  box)  its  thriving  now
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 Yes  Pio  its  absolutely  ok  to  add  cocoa  peat  now  and  then..  Smile  it  refreshes  the  culture.  Thanks  for  sharing  Pio.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 I  dont  know  the  reason  for  our  fascination  with  getting  rid  of  anything  alien  to  what  we  want  to  grow(must  be  the  farmer  roots  that  most  share)
 as  we  are  raising  live  food  for  our  pets,  anything  that  they  can  eat  should  be  if  not  welcome  acceptable.
 microworms  in  grindals,
 mites,
 flies.
 
 most  of  these  problems  are  because  of  deficient  culture  practices.  but  this  is  understandable  as  we  are  not  culturing  these  animals  in  a  laboratory  for  an  experiment  where  a  contamination  will  change  the  results.
 
 as  long  as  the  majority  population  is  of  the  animal  that  we  want  it  should  not  e  a  problem.
 
 if  you  want  to  get  rid  of  mites,  pesticides  are  available  but  you  know  what  they  do  to  the  fish.  
 
 as  long  as  it  is  not  predatory  mites  (like  spider  mites)  it  should  be  no  problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 Hey  Vishal,
 in  one  of  my  culture  box.  The  mites  are  so  many  that  they  cover  the  food  and  worms  are  disappearing.  I  had  to  do  something.   Well  I  have  bettas  who  don't  seem  to  eat  the  mites.  You  know  how  picky  they  are.  Isn't  their  any  other  way  to  get  rid  of  these  buggers?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hey  Vishal,
 in  one  of  my  culture  box.  The  mites  are  so  many  that  they  cover  the  food  and  worms  are  disappearing.  I  had  to  do  something.  ¬†Well  I  have  bettas  who  don't  seem  to  eat  the  mites.  You  know  how  picky  they  are.  Isn't  their  any  other  way  to  get  rid  of  these  buggers?                

 
 Hi  deepak,
 
 send  me  the  box,  i  will  see  what  can  be  done.  (i  get  a  grindal  culture  in  the  bargain)
 
 1.   put  a  big  piece  of  glass  on  the  culture  and  feed  only  under  the  glass.
 2.   keep  the  airholes  covered  with  a  fine  mesh  cloth,
 3.   start  new  cultures  after  washing  the  worms  and  then  transfer  them  to  a  nuked  medium.
 4.   put  the  culture  in  the  sun(uncovered  )  will  kill  the  mites  but  before  u  do  so  the  worms  should  have  burrowed.  u  will  have  to  watch  carefully  so  that  your  worms  dont  cook.
 5.   put  feed  in  a  small  petri  dish  and  remove  once  the  mites  have  collected  there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 one  more  thing  try  sprinkling  a  littke  bit  of  wood  ash(the  very  fine  one)  this  suffocates  insects  etc.
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 Hmm.   Wood  ash..  Smile  might  be  a  good  idea.
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 Remember  ...  this  process  is  very  stressful  to  the  worms.  You  might  not  get  a  good  yeld  for  a  few  days.                

 
 Yes  keeping  the  worms  submerged  in  water  can  drown  them  and  with  cocopeat  I  used  to  do  a  straining/rinsing  regularly  but  Omkar  recommends  that  doing  that  drowns  them  and  the  culture  starts  smelling  and  then  it  goes  bad.
 
 So  instead  of  filling  it  with  water  I  spray  a  bit  and  drain  excess  water
 
 Deepak  is  it  ok  to  mix  the  cocopeat  with  a  fork  now  and  then  to  free  gas/amonia  ?  When  I  did  that  with  one  of  my  cultures  I  have  to  wait  for  a  3-4  days  to  get  a  good  harvest  again  and  sometime  it  starts  smelling  bad.
 
 But  if  I  let  it  remain  as  it  is  (the  bigger  box)  its  thriving  now
                 

 
 PIO  
 I  need   some  from  it.  My  cultures  crashed  with  full  of  mites  when  I  was  not  here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Grindal Worms - Process Reply with quote

 And  Pio.  Those  in  your  culture  box  looks  like  whiteworms.
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 @deepak
 Thanks  for  confirming  that  they  are  White  Worms.  
 
 @vishaal
 Thanks  for  those  good  ideas.  I'll  try  the  sun  method  this  weekend.
 
 @Ramdas
 Will  meet  you  this  Sat.  Call  before  coming  so  in  case  I  cant  meet  you  I'll  leave  a  dabba  with  the  watchman.
 
 Ive  noticed  one  thing.  My  bigger  box,  the  thriving  culture,  is  closed  quite  tight.  And  I  made  a  hole  at  the  top  and  filled  the  hole  with  filter  floss  for  air  ventilation.  This  culture  has  not  caught  mites  yet.  (Gotta  Touch  wood  fast  or  Murphys  Law  will  catch  up!!   ROFL  )
 
 The  other  2  smaller  containers  are  covered  with  muslin  cloth  and  stocking  but  eventually  mites  and  water  flies  have  got  in
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 Sun  method  might  be  tricky  for  whiteworms.  Take  extra  care.
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 aye  maaaaan  it  stinks,  yuk  Crying or Very sad
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