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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

                                                   
amitkrm  wrote  (View  Post):                
Aquarist,  It  seems  you  have  kept  your  O's  in  bare  bottom  tank.
 It  is  good  for  the  Os'  to  keep  them  in  bare  bottom  tank  or  Planted  Tank.
 Expert  please  reply.                

 
 Can  Oscars  be  kept  in   planted  tank?  They  will  rip  the  plants  apart  in  a  few  seconds
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 @GatorX
 Thanks  and  Wish  u  a  Happy  Oscar  Keeping  Thumb Up  
 
 @amitkrm/sandeep
 I  know  that  oscars  will  rip  the  plants  as  Elaine  has  pointed  out.
 The  reason  for  me  Keeping  it  in  bare  bottom  is  that  I  want  to  utilise  the  tank  the  tank  to  the  max,  which  is  very  small  to  even  one  Oscar     Sad   (  I  have  a  30X12X18).  Right  now  i  have  two  oscars  in  it.....     I  use  a  880  L/H  power  filter  (just  to  aerate)  I  daily  siphon  out  the  Dirt  and  do  a  20%  water  change.  Also  every  week  I  do  a  90%  water  change.  I  don't  have  anything  in  the  tank  except  a  separator  to  separate  as  they  have  started  attacking  each  other  (  The  reason  is  definitely  space.......as  they  are  growing  big).  I  am  going  to  change  it  to  a  bigger  tank  by  the  end  of  this  month..   I  need  to  rearrange  all  my  6  tanks  and  2  Drums  to  keep  these  fishes  Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Hello  Friends,
 Pls  find  the  update......
 Hope  my  fish  looks  healthy.....  and  this  is  the  picture  taken  on  this  month  21.(2  days  back)
 now  they  are  around  8  1/2  inch  and  they  are  gaining  weight  now.......  Hope  and  wish  they  would  grow  big...............
 The  fish  below  looks  like  it  has  prominent  "A"  in  its  pattern......
 
 a  very  nice  fish
 
 I  have  started  this  thread  when  i  started  with  oscars.(with  confusions  about  how  the  oscars  will  look  when  they  grow).....  now  i  think  if  somebody  wants  to  grow  oscars  they  can  be  pretty  sure  how  the  color/Pattern  changes  in  Oscar.  Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Hi  Jeyanth,  
 Very  good  looking  Os  you  have.  It’s  really  nice  to  see  someone  updating  his  older  thread,  this  really  helps  tracking  development  of  the  fish  from  juvenile  to  adult  stage  at  one  go.  
 
 Just  few  tips  from  my  side:  
 Shifting  them  to  bigger  tank  is  a  good  plan  as  each  O  will  demand  its  own  space  as  they  grow.  You  have  already  mentioned  their  territorial  fights  have  begun.  Remember  min.  55G  per  Oscar  rule  for  best  growth.  
 Hikari  Cichlid  Bio-Gold+  pellets  can  be  added  to  their  diet  for  more  intense  coloration.  Do  not  feed  feeder  fishes.  
 Maintain  clean  water  conditions  as  much  possible  by  some  power  filteration,  weekly  50%WC  is  enough  then.  
 
 Oscar  has  such  a  lovely  character;  you  will  never  miss  a  dog  at  home.  Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 even  if  you  keep  a  100g  tank  for  2  oscars  unless  they  are  a  pair  they  will  fight  
 thats  why  its  always  better  to  keep  Os  in  gorups  
 
 i  am  actually  quite  surprised  that  your  2  oscars  have  actually  grown  side  by  side  with  out  much  trouble  
 
 in  one  of  your  pics  one  of  your  Os  had  been  badly  bruised  too  i  guess  
 
 and  usually  Os  don't  pair  just  if  there  is  a  male  and  a  female  in  a  tank
 
 but  if  urs  are  now  just  locking  jaws  and  not  very  serious  then  it  might  have  been  that  u  have  got  lucky  and  you  have  a  pair  
 
 but  if  its  a  serious  battle  going  one  where  the  other  is  getting  its  ass  kicked  then  i  think  its  time  to  separate  them
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

                                                   
yogoranda  wrote  (View  Post):                
Hi  Jeyanth,  
 Very  good  looking  Os  you  have.  It’s  really  nice  to  see  someone  updating  his  older  thread,  this  really  helps  tracking  development  of  the  fish  from  juvenile  to  adult  stage  at  one  go.                  

 Thanks  buddy
 
 
                                                 
yogoranda  wrote  (View  Post):                

 Just  few  tips  from  my  side:
 Shifting  them  to  bigger  tank  is  a  good  plan  as  each  O  will  demand  its  own  space  as  they  grow.  You  have  already  mentioned  their  territorial  fights  have  begun.  Remember  min.  55G  per  Oscar  rule  for  best  growth.
 Hikari  Cichlid  Bio-Gold+  pellets  can  be  added  to  their  diet  for  more  intense  coloration.  Do  not  feed  feeder  fishes.
 Maintain  clean  water  conditions  as  much  possible  by  some  power  filteration,  weekly  50%WC  is  enough  then.
 
 Oscar  has  such  a  lovely  character;  you  will  never  miss  a  dog  at  home.  Smile                

 Shifting  to  a  bigger  tank  is  a  
 immediate  necessary  ...  and  right  now  i  could  n't  do  that  ...instead  i  am  doing  20%  water  change  daily  and  90%  water  change  once  in  a  week..
 Reg  :  food,   right  now  I  am  feeding  them  mainly  with  Dry  fish  (which  they  love)....  and  (Ocean  red)  Occasionally  which  they  never  liked.  at  all..  But  i  will  try  to  get  Bio  gold  as  well.....
 
 True....we  never  had  a  dog  in  recent  times  and   with  oscars  we  will  never  need  one...  they  are  indeed  a  very  lovely  pet......and.  i  love  them
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

                                                   
headbanger_jib  wrote  (View  Post):                
even  if  you  keep  a  100g  tank  for  2  oscars  unless  they  are  a  pair  they  will  fight                  

 Is  it  ?....thanks  buddy  for  the  info  Thumb Up  
 
 
                                                 
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 thats  why  its  always  better  to  keep  Os  in  gorups  
 
 i  am  actually  quite  surprised  that  your  2  oscars  have  actually  grown  side  by  side  with  out  much  trouble  
                 

 No  ...  they  were  not  together.  Sad  ..  they  are  in  the  same  tank  with  a  separator
 
                                                 
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 in  one  of  your  pics  one  of  your  Os  had  been  badly  bruised  too  i  guess  
                 

 They  have  started  their  fight  .....but  after  that  i  have  no  option  other  than  separating  them..  Crying or Very sad  ......
 
                                                 
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 and  usually  Os  don't  pair  just  if  there  is  a  male  and  a  female  in  a  tank
 
 but  if  urs  are  now  just  locking  jaws  and  not  very  serious  then  it  might  have  been  that  u  have  got  lucky  and  you  have  a  pair  
 
 but  if  its  a  serious  battle  going  one  where  the  other  is  getting  its  ass  kicked  then  i  think  its  time  to  separate  them                

 serious  battle  is  going  on.......  they  live  in  the  same  tank..  .but  i  have  separated  them  with  metal  grid(which  comes  with  the  fridge)...  they  can  see  each  other  but  they  cannot  move  to  the  other  side...  and  hence  they  guard  their  own  territory  Smile  ....  but  during  WC  they  don't  attack  each  other...  and  after  WC  i  leave  them  together  for  some  time.....initially  they  will  be  calm  and  they  will  be  dark  in  color  and  they  will  shake  their  tail  as  rattle  snake  does  and  they  will  change  their  color  ...they  will  become  pale  and  after  which  they  will  open  their  mouth  and  lock  their  jaws.......  but  before  that  i  will  seperate  them....else  they  will  attack  each  other...  Hence  i  think  that  they  are  not  definitely  a  pair..  Sad  ..........
 Thanks  buddy  for  your  valuable  information
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Hi  aquarist
 
 Good  to  see  the  oscars  have  grown  up  nicely.  They  tend  to  pair  up  with  their  own  choice  of  mates  just  like  humans.  You  can  have  a  few  more  oscars  in  a  bigger  tank  with  the  same  size  of  oscars  so  that  you  will  have  a  pair  finally.   But  pairing  is  not  just  the  end,  its  the  begining.  Once  paired  you  need  to  seperate  the  pairs  from  others.  
 
 oscar  Kids,  growing  them,  giving  them  education  in  a  school  and  much  more  is  far  more  tedious  than  it  is  seeming  to  be,  but  yes  they  are  the  best  part  of  fish  keeping.
 
 All  the  very  best  dude!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Hi  all,
 I  am  little  confused  now  and  I  need  suggestions  from  you  experts..
 About  15  days  back  I  shifted  my  Oscar  Tank......
 I  moved  the  same  tank  to  a  different  room.
 Initially  they  didn't  fight  and  hence  i  removed   the  separator.
 Earlier  they  used  to  fight  very  aggressively  but  now  they  don't  seem  to  fight  at  all  and  they  seem  to  swim  together..  I  really  couldn't  understand  why  this  sudden  change  has  happened.  A  few  questions  arise  in  my  mind.
 1)  Is  it  due  to  the  change  in  Location?...(but  now  its  more  than  15  days  and  they  haven't  showed  any  aggression  but  will  it  show  later?)
 2)Is  it  a  pair?  if  yes  how  can  we  identify  which  one  is  male  and  female?
 Thanks  in  advance
 
 Hi  Sundar
 Thanks  buddy...
 
                                                 
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 oscar  Kids,  growing  them,  giving  them  education  in  a  school  and  much  more  is  far  more  tedious  than  it  is  seeming  to  be,
                 

 Can  you  elaborate  on  this.....It  will  be  very  helpful  for  me.
 Thanks  in  advance
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

                                                   
AQUARIST  wrote  (View  Post):                
Earlier  they  used  to  fight  very  aggressively  but  now  they  don't  seem  to  fight  at  all  and  they  seem  to  swim  together..  I  really  couldn't  understand  why  this  sudden  change  has  happened.  A  few  questions  arise  in  my  mind.
 1)  Is  it  due  to  the  change  in  Location?...(but  now  its  more  than  15  days  and  they  haven't  showed  any  aggression  but  will  it  show  later?)
 2)Is  it  a  pair?  if  yes  how  can  we  identify  which  one  is  male  and  female?                

 Hi  Jeyanth,
 
 With  oscars,  you  can  never  predict  their  behavior  with  each  other.  Even  I  was  surprised  by  volatile  nature  of  my  oscars  in  the  past,  one  day  I  found  them  locking  jaws,  ripping  each  other's  scales  and  the  next  day  I  could  find  them  swimming  swiftly  together  as  if  they  were  lovey-dovey  pair.  So  keeping  your  finger  crossed  &  observing  their  conduct  is  the  best  option.
 There  is  no  guaranteed  way  of  determining  sex  for  your  oscar.  However,  you  may  find  the  below  articles  useful  for  your  query:
 Male  or  Female  Oscar  Fish?
 Male  or  Female?  How  to  sex  cichlids
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Sundar
 Thanks  buddy...
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 oscar  Kids,  growing  them,  giving  them  education  in  a  school  and  much  more  is  far  more  tedious  than  it  is  seeming  to  be,
 
 Can  you  elaborate  on  this.....It  will  be  very  helpful  for  me.                  

 
 dude  i  told  that  because  if  you  want  to  have  a  pair  and  make  'em  spawn,  then  you  need  to  do  lot  more  work  than  you  are  now.  Like  WC  every  day,  Feeding  daphnia  and  brine  shrimps,seperate  tanks  for  them  alone,   etc,...
 
 That  is  what  i  intended  to  tell  you,  it  is  not  easy  raising  oscar  babies,  but  they  are  the  best  part  of  the  hobby.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

                                                   
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 So  keeping  your  finger  crossed  &  observing  their  conduct  is  the  best  option.
 There  is  no  guaranteed  way  of  determining  sex  for  your  oscar.  However,  you  may  find  the  below  articles  useful  for  your  query:
 Male  or  Female  Oscar  Fish?
 Male  or  Female?  How  to  sex  cichlids                

 Thanks  Yogesh,  very  informative........
 from  the  website  i  could  realise  that  i  need  to  wait  for  some  more  time  to  make  sure  whether  they  are  real  pair.
 
 
                                                 
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 dude  i  told  that  because  if  you  want  to  have  a  pair  and  make  'em  spawn,  then  you  need  to  do  lot  more  work  than  you  are  now.  Like  WC  every  day,  Feeding  daphnia  and  brine  shrimps,seperate  tanks  for  them  alone,   etc,...
 
 That  is  what  i  intended  to  tell  you,  it  is  not  easy  raising  oscar  babies,  but  they  are  the  best  part  of  the  hobby.                

 Thanks  for  the  caution  Sundar,
 But  anyhow  raising  the  babies  will  give  us  more  satisfaction  than  the  hardwork  we  put  in.
 
 
 Update  :--Photos  taken  on  3rd  March
 They  are  at  9  inches  now  ............  They  have  grown  bulkier  now...
 No  separators/Dividers....  they  are  in  the  same  tank..
 
 
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 U  really  need  to  give  them  a  bigger  tank...keeping  them  in  this  tank  just  because  they  are  staying  is  really  cruel...or  the  tougher  option  if  you  cant  get  a  bigger  tank...give  them  to  someone  who  will  take  good  care  of  them..
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U  really  need  to  give  them  a  bigger  tank...keeping  them  in  this  tank  just  because  they  are  staying  is  really  cruel...or  the  tougher  option  if  you  cant  get  a  bigger  tank...give  them  to  someone  who  will  take  good  care  of  them..                

 
 I  know  i  am  keeping  them  in  a  very  small  space.....
 but  if  we  think  it's  cruel  then  it  is  definitely  cruel...
 But  then  keeping  the  fishes  in  confined  glass  tank  is  also  cruel.  Sad  ...(which  we  can't  actually  avoid)..
 Providing  them  the  best  environment,  conditions,  food  and  space  is  the  best  possible  thing  we  can  do  to  have  them  stress  free  ....But  except  the  space  I  am  taking  very  good  care  for  them.  I  daily  do  water  changes  (20%)..  I  siphon  out  the  dirt  and  i  fill  it  back  with  fresh  water  and  they  are  very  healthy..
 I  earlier  thought  of  giving  one  of  the  oscar  to  somebody...
 but  now  I  sense  they  are  pair  and  i  don't  want  to  separate  them  Smile  ...
 I'll  keep  it  with  myself...  and  i  am  in  the  process  of  getting  permission  of  bringing  a  six  footer  home
 
 you  can  see  the  fish  in  the  below  video
 
             
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Fish  looks  healthy  and  thats  the  most  important  part  of  it.  As  you  have  already  told  us  that  you  are  getting  a  6  footer,  no  more  comments  to  increase  the  space...
 
 Happy  oscar  keeping
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