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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:21 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

                                                   
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Ruchit,  how  do  you  maintain  it  at  17  -  22  c.  I  am  also  from  blore  but  the  weather  is  getting  hotter  now-a-days.  Can  you  let  us  know  the  secret...                

 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Hi  Ruchit,
 
 Any  update  of  CRS  Tank  !!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Ruchit,
 
 Any  update  of  CRS  Tank  !!                

 
 Hello  Abhida  I  just  posted  a  picture  3  days  back.   Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Oho.....Sorry  Ruchit..I  didn't  check  the  date........looks  extremely  good.....  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:42 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Can't  you  place  thatt  outlet  somewhere  else....!?  Mmmm..  Or  better  use  some  black  cap  for  that  purpose,  as  it  looks  very  disturbing..
 Very  nice  tank  though...  Clapping   Clapping
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Thanks  Keluthi.  Well  I  wasn't  getting  much  surface  agitation  using  that  cap  so  changed  into  this  type  sometime  back.   Smile  
 
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Yes,  this  would  look  much  better  than  the  former.  BTW,  nice  CRS  u  have  man..  Clapping   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Hi  Ruchit,
 
 Superb  DIY.     Clapping  
 
 I  am  also  thinking  about  setting  up  one  like  this.
 But  I  am  thinking  about  a  different  way  of  partitions.     Cool
 
 
 Is  this  good?
 What  are  the  drawbacks  here.  (It  is  better  to  know  the  drawback  before  implementation)
 Why  this  is  way  (Keeping  glasses  slanted)  is  not  being  used  by  anyone?   Unsure  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:25 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Dear  Sujo,
 
 At  first  glance  I  thought  it  was  brilliant  because  I  haven't  seen  anyone  else  conceptualize  this  but  on  second  thoughts  I  don't  see  a  real  advantage  of  this  over  the  conventional  way  of  doing  it  vertically.  Actually  there  is  drawback  that  it  reduces  the  area  for  filter  pads.  I  think  the  idea  behind  the  incline  is  to  have  more  media  and  have  a  bigger  colony  of  nitrifying  bacteria.  But  I  am  sure  you  will  know  that  the  biggest  colony  of  the  bacteria  is  in  your  substrate  itself.  Just  my  views  lets  see  what  others  have  to  say...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

                                                   
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Yes,  this  would  look  much  better  than  the  former.  BTW,  nice  CRS  u  have  man..  Clapping   Thumb Up                

 
 Thanks  Keluthi.
 
 
                                                 
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 Hi  Ruchit,
 
 Superb  DIY.     Clapping  
 
 I  am  also  thinking  about  setting  up  one  like  this.
 But  I  am  thinking  about  a  different  way  of  partitions.  
 Is  this  good?
 What  are  the  drawbacks  here.  (It  is  better  to  know  the  drawback  before  implementation)
 Why  this  is  way  (Keeping  glasses  slanted)  is  not  being  used  by  anyone?   Unsure  
 
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 Thanks  Sujo.  The  design  of  yours  is  very  appealing  but  as  "bettaji"  stated  there  will  be  some  impact  on  bacteria  colonization  due  to  less  surface  area  and  the  tough  part  would  be  building  it,  as  slanting  the  glassing  while  gluing  at  such  angles  can  be  tricky.  Also  you  will  have  to  spend  more  time  in  cutting  the  filter  sponges   Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 ---  This  post  is  done  before  seeing  the  reply  from  Ruchit.---
 
 Hi  Bettaji,
 
 I  have  never  used  or  created  a  sump.      Sad  
 So  I  cannot  judge  this  completely.
 
 But  few  points,  which  I  thought  are...
 1)  Wider  area  for  water  to  drain  from  main  tank  to  the  sump,  which  will  reduces  the  variation  of  water  level  in  main  tank.
 2)  Water  will  flow  more  distance  through  the  filter  media,  which  may  make  it  more  effective.
 3)  In  the  vertical  wall  design,  there  is  a  chance  that  water  will  flow  close  to  the  wall  and  reduces  the  rate  of  flow  through  filter  media.  
 4)  Wider  area  near  the  pump  to  store  more  water.  (Reduces  the  chances  of  pump  running  without  water)
 
 Yes.  I  too  want  to  hear  comments  from  people  like  Ruchit  who  have  implemented  sumps.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:21 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Sujo  you  have  some  practical  convincing  points  Smile.  #4  is  very  true  compared  to  placing  the  partition  straight  the  slanting  will  accommodate  more  water  volume.  I  think  this  can  be  a  new  great  design  in  the  making  of  sumps   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:39 am Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

                                                   
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They  are  well  acclimatized  to  this  temperature  now  so  why  induce  a  heater  and  disturb  them   Smile  Plus  they  are  in  a  1sqft  tank  where  the  temperature  with  heater  would  change  very  fast,  so  it  can  be  risky.  I  have  kept  very  less  changes  to  this  tank  even  my  water  change  is  just  a  top-up  from  what  is  evaporated  from  my  back  sump.                

 
 Hi,
 
 I  could  not  help  myself  but  isnt  top  up  dangerous  in  the  long  run  (unless  using  Distilled  water)  as  the  salts  and  other  material  dissolved  in  the  water  would  increase  over  a  period  of  time.
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 Sujo,
 That's  an  interesting  design.  Although  I  think  it  would  work  great,  I'm  wondering  about  the  practicality  of  the  design.  Why  go  through  all  the  trouble  of  slanted  partitions?  getting  them  parallel  to  each  other  would  be  a  pain.  Keeping  them  in  position  during  the  build  will  be  a  challenge.
 
 If  the  sump  area  were  to  drain  out,  it  would  in  any  case.  Only  a  bit  later  rather  than  earlier  with  reference  to  water  volume.
 
 Mechanical  filtration  is  not  exactly  the  main  reason  for  people  to  resort  to  sump  filtration.  It  is  the  aerobic  biological  filtration  that  is  the  main  USP  of  sumps.  So  more  area  for  sponge  filters  is  generally  not  a  primary  concern.  Usually,  people  maximise  the  volume  of  bio-media  in  sumps.
 
 just  my  point  of  debate.  If  you  plan  to  go  ahead  &  build  your  design.  DO  let  us  know  how  it  fairs.   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: CRS Tank - Update Reply with quote

 Hi  Athreyan,
 
 Thanks  for  your  points.
 Even  I  am  thinking  about  the  pros  and  cons  of  different  designs.
 At  this  moment,  I  am  thinking  about  a  3rd  way  of  making  it.     Smile   (Will  share  it  later)
 
 I  like  this  point  of  yours...
 "If  the  sump  area  were  to  drain  out,  it  would  in  any  case.  Only  a  bit  later  rather  than  earlier  with  reference  to  water  volume.  "
 I  agree  with  you.
 
 I  have  a  question  is  mind...
 Increasing  the  water  flow  through  filter  media...  Will  it  really  increase  the  effect  of  bio  filtration?
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