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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:29 am Post subject: driftwood and rock query Reply with quote

 What  are  the  steps  for  making  sure  the  driftwood  and  the  rocks  are  safe  to  be  used  in  the  tank?.  I  have  learnt  that  we  need  to  boil  the  dirftwood  in  order  to  sterilize  it.  what  else  needs  to  be  done?
 
 
 Rocks  have  to  be  cleaned  with  any  chemical?.Please  clarify  on  the  treatment  of  rocks  too.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: Re: driftwood and rock query Reply with quote

 I  soak  the  rocks  and  driftwood  in  boiling  hot  water.  I  do  this  for  one  week.
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 Chemical  washing  I  am  not  aware  of  (it  may  eventually  do  more  harm  in  the  long  run).  I  often  wash  my  (new)  driftwoods/rocks  with  boiling/hot  water  and  salt.  First  wet  the  peces,  then  rub  them  with  salt  for  a  while.  Then,  I  repeatedly  wash  trying  to  ensure  that  there  is  no  salt  left.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: driftwood and rock query Reply with quote

 As  Prem  and  @  bmukh  said  above  I  also  asserted  the  same  view  that  the  best  way  to  sterilize  drift  wood  and  stone  is  to  wash  them  in  Hot  Water.Thus  the  tannin  in  driftwood  and  zinc/magnesium  oxide/iron  oxide  washed  away.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: driftwood and rock query Reply with quote

 I  just  dip  it  in  hot  water  and  potassium  permanganate,  for  a  couple  of  hours.  Wash  it  well,  then  it  soaks  till  it  sinks  in  a  drum.  After  that  i  remove  it  wash  it  well  and  scrub  it  well  to  get  the  slimy  stuff  out.  Dry  it  completely  and  again  soak  it  till  it  sinks.  Wash  again  and  place  it  in  the  tank.
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 As  stated  by  Preetam  the  best  way  to  let  the  tanin  out  is  to  let  the  wood  sink  in  its  own  time  in  a  drum  of  water.   You  can  accelerate  the  process  of  sinking  by  boiling  and  weighing  the  rock  down  using  a  stone  etc.  Pottasium  Permanganate  wash  is  good  to  disinfect  the  wood  but  then  it  might  stain  the  wood  if  left  for  long.  I  normally  boil  it  once  more  before  putting  the  wood  in  tank.
 
 There  are  branded  driftwood  available  though  which  are  prepared  and  sinks  immediately.  They  don't  release  tanins  though.I  though  feel  that  release  of  some  tanin  has  a  positive  effect  on  the  aquarium  water.  Though  the  water  colour  becomes  yellowish  but  then  pH  comes  down  too!
 
 I  have  never  used  any  chemicals.  But  I  have  read  people  testing  out  rocks  using  acids  to  test  out  whether  the  rock  has  calcareous  content  or  not.  I  do  not  know  whether  this  is  advisable  or  not
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: driftwood and rock query Reply with quote

 thanks  for  all  the  replies  guyz.  So  boil  them  in  water  and  soak  them  in  hot  water  for  about  a  week  is  what  i  am  gonna  do.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: driftwood and rock query Reply with quote

 i  boil  them  for  a  long  time.  the  water  from  the  geyser  works  perfect....i  got  a  new  Driftwood  on  sunday..  there  was  no  problem  in  its  sinking  as  it  was  in  the  river  for  a  long  time.  it  is  as  dark  and  hard  as  a  rock....
 i  soaked  it  in  hot  geyser  water  for  some  12  hours  with  doing  the  changes  of  water  every  1  hour  so  that  the  water  remains  tooo  hot  for  all  those  time.  it  is  not  at  all  leaching.....  so  i  placed  it  in  tank  now  with  moss  tied  to  it.
 
 previously  i  left  other  driftwood  in  water  for  some  20  days  with  pouring  hot  water  every  day....  it  leached  a  lot  for  some  10  days  and  then  gradually  leaching  came  down  and  the  wood  also  sinked  easily.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: Re: driftwood and rock query Reply with quote

 Just  one  more  query  guys,  
 
 Will  all  the  drift  wood  sink  in  water???  I  have  a  couple  of  pieces  of  wood  that  have  been  picked  up  from  a  jungle  stream.  I  have  kept  them  in  water  under  a  stone,  no  leeching  but  then  when  i  remove  the  stone  they  simply  bounce  back.  I  have  tried  to  keep  them  tied  down  but  then  that  too  does  not  work.
 
 Is  there  any  trick  to  keep  the  wood  deep  below???
 
 Thanks  in  advance!!!
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 Hi  Ram,  when  you  picked  them  up  from  the  stream  where  they  under  water?  if  they  werent  then  they  are  not  exactly  driftwood  and  maybe  normal  wood  lying  by  the  stream.  On  the  other  hand  some  wood  are  really  bouyant,  but  they  should  sink  after  a  while  when  they  absorb  a  lot  of  water,  but  I  have  even  read  some  threads  on  which  experts  like  Tom  Barr  says  he  most  of  the  times  secures  his  drift  wood  with  stones,  I  dont  know  if  this  is  for  bouyancy  or  just  to  ensure  nothing  shakes  it  around  in  the  tank.  I  am  just  sharing  my  thoughts,  not  sure  if  I  am  correct,  we  will  wait  for  the  experts.
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 Shreyas  i  actually  picked  them  up  from  a  stream  caught  between  rocks,  partially  submerged  and  partly  exposed.  I  have  actually  tried  tying  the  wood  by  a  string  to  a  few  stones  to  anchor  it.  There  is  no  stability  and  the  wood  keeps  turning  over.  Then  i  could  hold  it  down  but  then  there  was  a  web  of  strings  around  it.  So  i  have  given  up  on  my  trial  and  left  the  wood  in  a  cement  tank  to  absorb  more  water  and  harden.  Really  hope  that  it  happens  soon!!!
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Just  one  more  query  guys,  
 
 Will  all  the  drift  wood  sink  in  water???  I  have  a  couple  of  pieces  of  wood  that  have  been  picked  up  from  a  jungle  stream.  I  have  kept  them  in  water  under  a  stone,  no  leeching  but  then  when  i  remove  the  stone  they  simply  bounce  back.  I  have  tried  to  keep  them  tied  down  but  then  that  too  does  not  work.
 
 Is  there  any  trick  to  keep  the  wood  deep  below???
 
 Thanks  in  advance!!!                

 
 My  driftwood/wood  that  I  picked  up  from  a  stream  have  sunk  about  1  year  after  submerging  them  tied  to  stones.  So  happens.
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 Also  supposedly  a  problem  with  Non  Bog  Wood  (you  should  look  up  Bog  wood  on  Google)  is  that,  if  you  forcibly  try  to  submerge  it,  it  can  start  rotting,  which  is  even  a  bigger  pain.  So  please  make  sure  what  you  have  is  bog  wood,  otherwise  conditioning  takes  a  long  time  and  there;s  no  guarantee  that  it  will  survive  in  water
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 @  Shreyas  
 
 Thanks  for  the  suggestion  to  look  up.  I  did  read  up  and  Bog  wood  is  defined  as  "  Bog-wood  is  wood  from  trees  that  have  been  buried  in  peat  bogs  and  preserved  from  decay  by  the  acidic  and  anaerobic  bog  conditions,  sometimes  for  hundreds  or  even  thousands  of  years.  The  wood  is  usually  stained  brown  by  tannins  dissolved  in  the  acidic  water."  
 
 Obviously  all  the  wood  that  we  see  in  aquariums  is  not  many  hundred  years  old.  Maybe  the  wood  needs  to  be  buried  in  soil  for  a  few  months.  I  will  try  that  out.  I  have  a  few  dried  tea  bushes  that  i  got  uprooted.  I  will  try  buring  them  in  soil.  Maybe  in  6  months  time  i  will  have  a  few  pieces  of  good  wood  worthy  to  be  placed  in  an  aquarium.  
 
 Any  suggestions  /  comments???  
 
 Bookings  open  for  a  few  pieces  of  wood!!!!!!
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 I  am  not  sure  that  will  help,  Ram.
 
 If  you  are  just  going  to  bury  pieces  of  wood  in  the  ground,  they  will  get  infested  with  ants,  termites,  maggots,  other  bugs  which  will  turn  your  wood  into  fertilizer.
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