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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject: Devil acting strange Reply with quote

 Hi  all,
 
 I  have  a  9"  Red  Devil  which  I  got  from  Salem  4  days  back.  I  have  housed  him  in  a  3  feet  tank  atpresent.  He  is  all  alone  in  the  tank.
 
 I  am  facing  a  few  problems.
 1.  The  devil  has  not  eaten  anything  since  the  day  one.
 2.  I  have  provided  good  aeration  to  the  tank  and  have  also  made  30%  water  change  today  but  the  devil  seems  to  be  inactive.  He  tends  to  float  always.
 3.  He  lets  his  half  body  appear  above  the  water  level.
 4.  He  is  not  using  his  gills  to  swim.  He  uses  his  tail  to  push  himself  sometimes.
 
 Please  help.
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 I  guess  he's  stressed.  Do  not  continue  with  wc  regularly.  It  will  add  up  stress,  do  not  worry  about  a  new  fish  not  eating  for  the  first  three  days.
 
 But  if  the  pectoral  fins  are  not  used  and  struck  close  to  the  body  i  will  rule  it  into  a  crisis.
 
 Add  up  aquarium  salt  to  the  water,  it  can  relax  him  a  bit.  If  he  improves  throw  in  some  feeder  fish  to  make  him  active  bringing  out  his  agression.
 
 My  idea  is  basic  first  aid,  hope  gurus  come  out  with  better  solutions.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Devil acting strange Reply with quote

                                                   
Vijayblr  wrote:                
Hi  all,
 
 I  have  a  9"  Red  Devil  which  I  got  from  Salem  4  days  back.  I  have  housed  him  in  a  3  feet  tank  atpresent.  He  is  all  alone  in  the  tank.
 
 I  am  facing  a  few  problems.
 1.  The  devil  has  not  eaten  anything  since  the  day  one.
 2.  I  have  provided  good  aeration  to  the  tank  and  have  also  made  30%  water  change  today  but  the  devil  seems  to  be  inactive.  He  tends  to  float  always.
 3.  He  lets  his  half  body  appear  above  the  water  level.
 4.  He  is  not  using  his  gills  to  swim.  He  uses  his  tail  to  push  himself  sometimes.
 
 Please  help.                

 
 Large  Fishes  don't  transport  well,  they  will  take  sometime  to  settle  down.  Add  a  pipe  or  slab  under  which  he  can  hide.  He  will  start  coming  out  once  they  feel  more  secure.  Adding  a  little  Rock  salt  to  the  tank  sometimes  helps  in  increasing  appetite  and  relieving  stress  on  the  fish.
 Don't  do  water  changes  till  he  settles  down.  Feed  ater  a  couple  of  days  and  siphon  out  only  the  uneaten  food.  
 Avoid  feeder  fishes  unless  you  grew  them  up  yourself.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Thanks  Venki  and  Beta
 
 I  will  use  a  pot  for  him  to  hide  as  pipe  would  be  too  small.
 But  could  you  please  let  me  know  why  has  his  body  become  so  sturdy???  It  seems  like  he  is  finding  it  difficult  to  move  his  mid  section.
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 Could  be  a  swim  bladder  problem!  Keep  us  updated  if  it  doesn't  recover  in  a  few  days.
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 Thank  you  very  much  Beta.
 
 Will  keep  you  updated.  FYI  just  called  home  to  enquire  it  is  still  in  the  same  condition.
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 Status  as  on  29th  may
 
 It  has  been  more  than  a  week  since  I  have  this  fish  with  me.  
 The  fish  feels  very  difficult  to  swim.  
 Always  the  upper  body  is  out  of  water  atleast  2"  and  
 Is  not  able  to  swim  like  other  fish.  Rather  tries  to  push  itself  by  its  tail  rather  than  usingits  gill.  
 It  has  lost  all  its  colors.
 
 I  have  tried  feeding  it  Dried  Shrimp,  feeder(  home  bred),  Freeze  dried  Blood  worms  and  pellets.  None  has  been  eaten.
 
 Any  possibilities  about  eating  disorders???
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 No  improvement  till  date.
 
 Seems  to  be  blind  on  the  left  side.  Thinking  of  Euthanasia.
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 vijay,
 
 was  going  through  google  on  red  devils  and  saw  this  site....
 
 http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/reddevils.htm
 
 it  mentions  some  type  of  metabolic  disease...  have  you  tried  frequent  water  changes???  apparently  this  is  of  some  use...  don't  know,  but  give  it  a  try.
 
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 Vijay,
 
 have  you  by  any  chance  noticed  any  type  of  discoloration  or  anything  like  that  at  all??
 
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 Thanks  Nevil,
 
 I  tried  to  do  some  water  changes  initially  but  later  went  against  it.
 The  Devil  is  a  lot  lighter  in  color,  has  lost  its  fat  content  and  is  blind  on  the  left  eye.
 
 Finds  very  difficult  to  swim.
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 Vijay,
 
 what  is  the  status  on  your  fish??
 
 Check  this  info  out:
 
 
                                                 
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Air  Bladder  Disease
 Some  fishes  with  air  bladder  ailments  will  appear  to  settle  on  the  bottom  of  the  tank  and  make  violent  efforts  to  rise,  only  to  settle  down  again.  Others,  called  floaters,  rise  to  the  top  of  the  tank  and  are  unable  to  swim  down.  Students  of  fish  diseases  tell  us  that  inflamed  organs  can  reduce  the  size  of  the  air  bladder.  Inflammation  of  the  bladder  wall  also  exerts  a  disastrous  influence.
   Treatment:  Dissolve  a  teaspoonful  of  Epsom  salts  in  a  pint  of  water.  Immerse  the  fish  in  it  until  it  almost  ceases  its  efforts  to  escape  and  lies  exhausted.  Then  change  the  fish  to  a  shallow  container  in  which  the  water  is  not  more  than  three  times  as  deep  as  the  fish  is  thick.  Leave  him  in  this  water  in  which  you  have  dissolved  an  antibiotic  until  he  appears  recovered.  TOP
                 

 
 from  http://www.guppies.com/PAGES/diseases.html
 
 its  for  guppies,  but  i  feel  it  should  work  for  cichlids  as  well....  one  more  thing,  i  could  not  find  info  on  the  type  of  antibiotic  to  use....    Sad
 
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