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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:33 am Post subject: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need idea Reply with quote

 hey  friends
 I  am  following  forums  articles  for  few  months,  I  highly  appreciate  inputs  made  by  the  members  to  bring  forward  new  ideas,  experiences   and  ton  of  knowledge.
 I  never  had  any  aquarium  till  this  time.  I  wish  to  put  up  one  decent  aquarium.
 I  can  put  max  of  54"*18"*24"glass   tank.   fresh  water  without  plants.  I  like  gold  fish
 kindly  help  me  in  choosing   filter(  canister).  
 heater  lighting.  substrate,  ats,  wave  maker.
 I  can  also  diy  cansiter  filter  out  of  big  paint  bucket  (20l)  i.e.  14odd  inch  tall.  can  u  please  suggest  pump  for  it.  also  put   some  light  on  idea  of  diy  canister  filter.
 I  have  found  from  the  forum  that  eheim  is  great  option,  can  some  body  tell  approx  price  for  2217  or  other  filter.  hows  sun  sun  in  terms  of  reliability.  which  one  is  safe  option  to  go  for.  where  can  I  buy  eheim  or  sun  sun  in  delhi  or  mumbai.  
 
 guys  may  be  I  am  asking  too  much,  but  I  have  many  doubts  in  my  mind,  your  help  will  enable  me  to  put  up  successful  aquarium  with  no  fish  belly  up.
 
 I  live  in  Palampur  Himachal  Pradesh  ,  doesn't  have  very  nice  lfs  here.  but  i  can  manage  to  bring  required  stuff  from  delhi.  kindly  let  me  know  some  decent  lfs  in  delhi.
 Thanks  alot
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:39 am Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need Reply with quote

 Try  indianaquarium.com  for  equipment  like  filters  etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need Reply with quote

 Hi  Pradeep,
 
 Based  on  my  experience,  below  is  my  suggestion.
 
 1.  Filter  -  I  would  suggest  you  to  go  with  External  Top  or  HOB  (Hand  on  Back)  filter  in  Gold  fish  tank  instead  of  Canister  filter  because  Gold  Fish  eat  in  large  quantity  and  also  do  lots  of  waste  in  the  tank.  Top  or  HOB  filter  are  very  easy  to  clean  and  maintain  than  Canister.  Considering  large  waste  amount,  you  will  need  to  clean  filter  regular  may  be  once  in  week  or  once  in  two  week.  Note  that,  Fish  waste  material  staying  in  filter  for  long  time  is  also  not  good.  You  can  do  DIY  Top  filter  also.
 
 For  such  a  size  aquarium,  price  of  Canister  Filter  for  good  brand  will  be  costly  but  it  depend  on  your  budget.  If  I  compare  the  cost  of  canister  filter  vs  cost  of  top  filter  and  also  the  ease  in  cleaning  the  filter,  i  would  have  gone  for  Top  or  HOB  filter.  
 
 2.  Pump  -   your  tank  capacity  is  approx  380  ltr  so  you  can  take  minimum  1500  ltr/hr  to  2000  ltr/hr  pump  (4  to  5  time  of  tank  capacity)  for  gold  fish  tank
 
 3.  Heater  -  Considering  you  are  in  Himachal  Pradesh,  minimum  use  TWO  200  watts  or  300  watts  heaters.  In  Mumbai,  for  such  large  tank  One  Heater  for  gold  fish  is  sufficient  to  keep  temperature  maintained  but  you  live  in  cold  area  so  i  think  you  will  need  TWO  header.
 
 4.  Gravel  -  Based  on  my  experience  in  my  starting  days,  Gold  fish  have  tendency  to  lick  gravel  or  swallow  gravel  and  again  throw  back.  so  go  for  slightly  big  size  gravel  /  stones
 
 5.  Waver  Maker  -  If  you  ask,  is  it  necessary  then  NO.  If  you  say  I  have  budget  and  want  to  keep,  then  wave  maker  will  only  help  to  collect  all  waste  in  one  corner  but  that  to  if  you  have  small  size  gravel.  In  large  size  gravel  /  stone  I  don't  think  it  will  help.
 
 6.  Lighting  -  I  don't  have  much  knowledge  on  lighting  but  you  will  need  extra  lights  than  standard  setup  because  of  height  of  your  tank  is  2  ft.  
 
 
 This  is  my  view  but  would  recommend  to  wait  for  advise  from  experts.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need Reply with quote

 You  don't  need  Heaters  for  gold  fish  tank.  They  will  do  well  in  cold  water.  They  will  do  well  in  temperatures  as  cold  as  15  degrees.  Reduce  feeding  when  temperatures  are  lower  than  this.  They  may  not  eat  when  temperatures  drop  to  single  digits.
 
 You  can  also  keep  beautiful  carps.  
 
 1  or  2  tube  lights  will  provide  sufficient  lights.  
 
 Use  small  smooth  pebbles  or  gravel  for  the  substrate.
 Gold  fish  dont  need  strong  flow,  so  you  need  not  use  wave  makers.
 
 A  good  canister  filter  will  be  better.
 
 Do  not  stock  more  that  5-6  Gold  fish.  Don't  believe  the  Vastu  nonsense  the  LFS  guy  will  tell  you.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:43 am Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need Reply with quote

 hey  guys  
 thnaks  alot  for  help.
 guys,  I  am  considering  to  put  up  a  sump     Unsure  
 would  like  to  add  mechanical  filtration  by  foam  and  floss,   biological  by  matrix  and  ceramic  rings  and  chemical  by  purigen.  and  in  addition  to  that  would  put  ATS  and  one  200  watt  thermometer  (may  be  optional  only)  lastly  return  pump.  
 can  you  tell  me  your  views  on  dry/wet  sump  ?
 what  should  be  flow  rate  through  a  such  sump.  
 addition  of  small  power  head  or  propeller  inside  display  tank  will  help  in  better  circulation  of  water
 
 guys  I  have  mixed  feelings  now,  shall  I  put  goldfish  tank,  or  arowana   or  flower  horn  tank
 i  like  all  these  fish,  also  like  blood  parrots
 .
 kindly  advise
 I  was  little  busy  these  days  but  now  I  will  quickly  get  my  tank  and  stand  built.
 I  am  considering  angle  bar  (1inch)  with  6legs.
 sump  vs  canister.  what  is  better
 thanks  friends
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need Reply with quote

 You  don't  need  a  sump  for  fresh  water  tanks.  A  canister  filter  is  enough.  vacuum  the  Bottom  every  Week  during  water  change  and  you  are  good.  Get  some  ceramic  rings  for  the  Canister  filter.  Add  one  layer  of  sponge  in  the  canister  filter.  That  will  do  to  keep  the  water  clean.
 
 You  don't  need  an  ATS.
 
 The  tank  is  too  small  for  Arowana.  Flower  horns  are  a  waste  of  money.  Go  with  any  medium  sized  fish  you  like.
 
 How  thick  is  the  angle.  Go  with  minimum  4  mm  thick  angle,  which  is  1  inch  on  each  side.  4  legs  for  the  stand  should  do.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need Reply with quote

 @Preeths
 thanks  alot  for  the  advice  
 would  go  for  canister  filter  (  diy  )
 
 
   Agree  
 
 good  to  know  that  4  legged  stand  will  do  the  job,  ya,  will  go  for  angle  bar  1"  4+mm  material.
 thanks  a  ton
   Rock On
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