Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:33 am Post subject: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need idea
I am following forums articles for few months, I highly appreciate inputs made by the members to bring forward new ideas, experiences and ton of knowledge.
I never had any aquarium till this time. I wish to put up one decent aquarium.
I can put max of 54"*18"*24"glass tank. fresh water without plants. I like gold fish
kindly help me in choosing filter( canister).
heater lighting. substrate, ats, wave maker.
I can also diy cansiter filter out of big paint bucket (20l) i.e. 14odd inch tall. can u please suggest pump for it. also put some light on idea of diy canister filter.
I have found from the forum that eheim is great option, can some body tell approx price for 2217 or other filter. hows sun sun in terms of reliability. which one is safe option to go for. where can I buy eheim or sun sun in delhi or mumbai.
guys may be I am asking too much, but I have many doubts in my mind, your help will enable me to put up successful aquarium with no fish belly up.
I live in Palampur Himachal Pradesh , doesn't have very nice lfs here. but i can manage to bring required stuff from delhi. kindly let me know some decent lfs in delhi.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need
Based on my experience, below is my suggestion.
1. Filter - I would suggest you to go with External Top or HOB (Hand on Back) filter in Gold fish tank instead of Canister filter because Gold Fish eat in large quantity and also do lots of waste in the tank. Top or HOB filter are very easy to clean and maintain than Canister. Considering large waste amount, you will need to clean filter regular may be once in week or once in two week. Note that, Fish waste material staying in filter for long time is also not good. You can do DIY Top filter also.
For such a size aquarium, price of Canister Filter for good brand will be costly but it depend on your budget. If I compare the cost of canister filter vs cost of top filter and also the ease in cleaning the filter, i would have gone for Top or HOB filter.
2. Pump - your tank capacity is approx 380 ltr so you can take minimum 1500 ltr/hr to 2000 ltr/hr pump (4 to 5 time of tank capacity) for gold fish tank
3. Heater - Considering you are in Himachal Pradesh, minimum use TWO 200 watts or 300 watts heaters. In Mumbai, for such large tank One Heater for gold fish is sufficient to keep temperature maintained but you live in cold area so i think you will need TWO header.
4. Gravel - Based on my experience in my starting days, Gold fish have tendency to lick gravel or swallow gravel and again throw back. so go for slightly big size gravel / stones
5. Waver Maker - If you ask, is it necessary then NO. If you say I have budget and want to keep, then wave maker will only help to collect all waste in one corner but that to if you have small size gravel. In large size gravel / stone I don't think it will help.
6. Lighting - I don't have much knowledge on lighting but you will need extra lights than standard setup because of height of your tank is 2 ft.
This is my view but would recommend to wait for advise from experts.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need
You don't need Heaters for gold fish tank. They will do well in cold water. They will do well in temperatures as cold as 15 degrees. Reduce feeding when temperatures are lower than this. They may not eat when temperatures drop to single digits.
You can also keep beautiful carps.
1 or 2 tube lights will provide sufficient lights.
Use small smooth pebbles or gravel for the substrate.
Gold fish dont need strong flow, so you need not use wave makers.
A good canister filter will be better.
Do not stock more that 5-6 Gold fish. Don't believe the Vastu nonsense the LFS guy will tell you.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:43 am Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need
thnaks alot for help.
guys, I am considering to put up a sump
would like to add mechanical filtration by foam and floss, biological by matrix and ceramic rings and chemical by purigen. and in addition to that would put ATS and one 200 watt thermometer (may be optional only) lastly return pump.
can you tell me your views on dry/wet sump ?
what should be flow rate through a such sump.
addition of small power head or propeller inside display tank will help in better circulation of water
guys I have mixed feelings now, shall I put goldfish tank, or arowana or flower horn tank
i like all these fish, also like blood parrots
I was little busy these days but now I will quickly get my tank and stand built.
I am considering angle bar (1inch) with 6legs.
sump vs canister. what is better
Joined: Nov 07, 2007 Posts: 2028 Location: Bangalore
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: putting up new tank 4 1/4' * 1 1/2' * 2' beginner, need
You don't need a sump for fresh water tanks. A canister filter is enough. vacuum the Bottom every Week during water change and you are good. Get some ceramic rings for the Canister filter. Add one layer of sponge in the canister filter. That will do to keep the water clean.
You don't need an ATS.
The tank is too small for Arowana. Flower horns are a waste of money. Go with any medium sized fish you like.
How thick is the angle. Go with minimum 4 mm thick angle, which is 1 inch on each side. 4 legs for the stand should do.
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