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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Wish me luck...[Discus Breeding:Month2 Spawn2] Reply with quote

 Blue  Turk  Pair:  I  agree  on  giving  the  opportunity  to  the  parent  to  raise  its  fry,  how  else  would  they  learn.
 OK  Last  year  they  used  to  eat  up  all  their  eggs,  but  that  was  because  they  always  got  fungus  and  were  in  hard  water.  About  3  months  ago  they  started  again,  but  this  time  they  would  not  eat  their  eggs  at  all  even  after  5  days  when  the  eggs  were  completely  white  and  with  fungus  they  didn't.  I  assumed  they  learnt  to  be  patient.  But  now  even  after  separating  them  to  a  breeder  after  3  tries  I  had  no  fry,  this  I  though  could  be  for  2  reasons  either  my  water  is  still  not  right  or  my  male  is  not  doing  a  good  job.  So  this  time  I  tried  to  rule  out  the  water  by  moving  the  eggs  after  the  spawn  in  the  show  tank  to  the  breeder  just  to  see  what  would  happen.  Yes  this  is  confirmed  Male  and  Female,  and  a  pair  they  never  leave  each  other  if  you  know  what  I  mean..The  eggs  haven't  hatched  in  the  breeder  with  the  same  water  where  the  others  hatched.  Now  I  feel  this  male  is  no  good,  but  once  I  get  me  another  breeder  I  will  give  them  a  try  again  as  they  seem  like  a  very  loving  pair.
 
 Red  Turk  Pair:  This  pair  is  very  young  for  me.  I  didn't  know  if  they  even  were  a  male  and  female  until  they  started  giving  their  first  set  of  eggs  about  3  months  ago  too.  So  I  don't  really  want  to  even  separate  them  for  another  6  months.  I  am  yet  to  even  watch  them  carefully  while  spawning  to  confirm  male  and  female.  Since  I  had  them  give  eggs  a  day  after  the  other  pair  on  a  cone,  I  though  I  had  nothing  to  lose  if  I  did  transfer  them.
 
 Shiva  Sir,
 Thanks   for  the  guidance.  The  first  set  of  fry  are  doing  fine.
 Is  there  anything  I  should  do  this  time  around  on  the  first  few  days?  Last  time  I  missed  your   initial   guidance,  also  I  would  like  to  reduce  the  number  of  fry  that  grow  up  with  bad  gill  covers,  how  do  I  prevent  that?  More  airstones?  Also  Why  is  my  hatch  rate  so  low?  The  spawn  size  is  also  only  about  100ish  eggs?
 Do  I  have  to  give  them  FBW,  or  more  vitamins  in  BHM,  I  believe  that  the  spawn  size  depends  on  the  condition  of  the  fish  and  diet?  I  am  willing  to  work  n  both  for  them.  What  is  the  mature  breeding  age  and  time  line  for  these  fish,  as  even  age  will  have  to  do  a  lot  with  it?
 OK  Too  many  questions...
 Anyhow,  my  visit  to  Bombay  is  pending.  
 Have  a  Nice  day
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Wish me luck...[Discus Breeding:Month2 Spawn2] Reply with quote

                                                   
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Is  there  anything  I  should  do  this  time  around  on  the  first  few  days?  Last  time  I  missed  your   initial   guidance,                  

 
 WC  on  2nd  day  of  free  swimming  .
 Freshly  hatched  Brine  Shrimp  on  4th  or  5th  day  ,  start  with  small  qty  .
 WC  of  25%  daily  with  aged  water  .
 Seperate  the  frys  once  you  notice  that  they  are  moving  away  from  their  parents  to  eat  BS  or  parents  are  avoiding  them  to  fed  on  them  (  Pricking  )   .  may  be  15  -  20  days  .  This  also   depends  upon  the  size  of  the  spawn  .  biger  the  size  more  stress  to  the  parents  .
 
 
                                                 
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Why  is  my  hatch  rate  so  low?  The  spawn  size  is  also  only  about  100ish  eggs?  
 Do  I  have  to  give  them  FBW,  or  more  vitamins  in  BHM,  I  believe  that  the  spawn  size  depends  on  the  condition  of  the  fish  and  diet?  I  am  willing  to  work  n  both  for  them.                  

 
 May  be  the  male  is  not  producing  quality  milt  (  fish  sperm  )  ,  try  Pro  More  .  Thumbs Up  
 Fertility  of  eggs  are  also  depends  upon  the  hardness  of  the  water  .  If  the  water  is  hard  ,  sperms  will  not  enter  the  eggs  easily  .   Thumb Up  
 
 
                                                 
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What  is  the  mature  breeding  age  and  time  line  for  these  fish,  as  even  age  will  have  to  do  a  lot  with  it?  
                 

 
 12  -  14  years  is  spawnable  age  ,  after  3.5  years  their  rate  drops  down  .
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Wish me luck...[Discus Breeding:Month2 Spawn2] Reply with quote

 Read  as  12-14  months.
 Shiva:  is  it  possible  for  you  to  start  a  separate  thread  with  your  updated  discus  pics.  Sounds  like  a  nice  collection.
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Read  as  12-14  months.                  

 
 Beta  :  Thanks  for  the  correction  .
 
 
                                                 
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Shiva:  is  it  possible  for  you  to  start  a  separate  thread  with  your  updated  discus  pics.  Sounds  like  a  nice  collection.                

 
 Yes  i  will  do  that  at  earliest  opportunity  .  
 Ritesh  :  when  are  your  comming  to  Mumbai  ?  why  don't  you  come  to  my  place  and  click  few  pics   Cheering  Now  you  are  an  expert  discus  photographer  .   Clapping  
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Wish me luck...[Discus Breeding:Month2 Spawn2] Reply with quote

                                                   
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when  are  your  comming  to  Mumbai  ?  why  don't  you  come  to  my  place  and  click  few  pics   Cheering  Now  you  are  an  expert  discus  photographer  .   Clapping                  

 
 Shiva  Sir,  I  would  love  to  come  to  your  place  asap.  But  the  mumbai  rains  scare  me  :-).  I  am  no  expert  in  taking  pictures,  but  I  will  or  sure  be  more  than  glad  to  take  pictures.  :-)
 
 Humm,  Pro  More  ,  another  one  of  the  things  on  my  list  to  pick  up  from  you.
 
 Beta  Sir:  Until  new  pictures  come  by,   
 
 Shiva's  Discus  Thread
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Wish me luck...[Discus Breeding:Month2 Spawn2] Reply with quote

 Hi  Ritesh,
 
 Any  updates  on  the  babies?  both  the  first  and  the  second  batch
 
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 Day  85  :-)
 
 
 
 
 My  second  batch  I  lost  all  of  them  :-(
 
 We  are  having  6  hour  powercuts  here  in  Pune,  I  would  blame  that  and  maybe  me  neglecting  the  tank  a  bit  due  to  too  much  work  last  month  and  some  travelling.
 
 This  fry  tank  has  an  APC  UPS  just  for  it  so  it  is  going  fine  and  it  supports  the  entire  powercut  time.  
 These  guys  are  doing  fine,  no  complaints  about  my  first  batch  except  that  some  of  them  have  bad  gill  covers  and  a  defective  stress  bar,  it  seems  to  be  breaking?  Will  this  develop  differently  or  will  they  have  it  for  life..?
 Also  they  have  started  to  show  some  amount  of  blue  speckles  and  they  are  a  bit  red  too  so  lets  see  how  it  goes  and  what  they  turn  out  like...
 
 There  are  eggs  again  in  a  breeder,  but  until  the  electricity  situation  doesn't  come  around  I  don't  feel  too  good  about  getting  fry.  Lets  see  what  happens.
 
 Thanks  for  reading
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 nice  looking  fish  ..making  me  more  and  more  hooked  onto  this  fish  day  to  day  .....cant  wait  to  lay  my  hands  on  those  beauties  Thumb Up
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cant  wait  to  lay  my  hands  on  those  beauties                  

   Confused  How  do  you  intend  on  doing  that?
 
 Anyhow  I  have  posted  more  on  my  blog.
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 cheer  up  nanu..seeing  you  breed  those  beauties  makes  want  to  have  them  too  .....its  an  exciting  prospect  .....  Very Happy   you  are  an  inspiration!
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 not  sad  just  was  confused..
 :-)
 Anyhow,  yes  they  are  nice  fish.
 I  hope  they  grow  faster  though...its  a  slow  process,  even  with  BHM.
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 nice  work  man.  cheers.  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: Re: Wish me luck...[Discus Breeding : Day 85...] Reply with quote

 4.5  Months:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ..not  all  are  this  big  about  6  of  them  are  some  of  them  are  really  tiny  still,  
 like  the  one  half  cut  off  he  is  only  1.5  inch  still..
 ...will  post  more  on  them  later,  its  2am  and  I  got  office  tomorrow.
 ...just  been  really  preoccupied  thats  why  havent  taken  a  lot  of  pics  yet.
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 hi  nanu,
 it's  nice  to  see  your  cute  little  babies  Smile  
 how's  the  parents  now?
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 Hey...my  pair  has  just  gotten  bashing  up  everyone  else  in  the  tank  and  have  been  separated...So  was  just  thinking  today  about  how  your  discus  babies  are  doing.  The  babies  are  doing  really  well...Nice!
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