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 Yes,  but  there  is  a  risk  of  the  change  in  salinity  killing  off  bacteria...
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 ...or  try  commercial  bacterial  culture,'cycle'  /'bacterlife'  /'14-in-1  bacteria',any  one  of  these  in  recommended  doses.  Smile
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Ummm,  a  month  long  cycling  is  the  usual  minimum...patience  my  friend  Very Happy                

 
   Shocked    WHAT??  A  MONTH?!?!!??
 
 wait  a  min,  Madhu  said  if  i  use  a  filter  media,  it'd  speed  up?  does  that  mean  a  week's  enough  then?  Rolling Eyes  
 
 I've  been  using  a  submersible  filter  (buoy  1800b)  with  a  sponge  media.  also  the  aerator's  on  most  of  the  time.  
 
 The  substrate's  construction  sand  and  i  have  about  20  little  mollies  and  guppies  mixed  in  there!  anything  more  to  speed  it  up  and  make  it  a  safer  tank  as  well?
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 What  Madhu  meant  was  if  you  tranfer  a  filter  from  an  established  tank  to  a  new  one,  you  can  speed  up  the  cycling  process  with  the  bacteria  already  present  in  the  old  filter.  Even  then,  it'll  take  10  days  or  so.
 
 In  this  case,  you  are  setting  up  a  brackish  water  tank,  so  transferring  a  filter  from  a  fresh  water  tank  may  not  work  as  expected.
 
 It  does  not  matter  what  filter/aerator  you  have  in  the  tank,  the  rate  at  which  the  bacteria  establish  themselves  is  dependent  on  many  other  factors.
 
 As  Murthy  suggested,  you  could  try  using  one  of  the  commercial  bacterial  products  to  kickstart  your  tank.  I  have  no  experience  with  these  so  cannot  vouch  for  them.
 
 The  best  course  of  action  is  to  get  a  good  test  kit,  monitor  the  NH3,  NO3,  NO2  levels  in  your  tanks  and  take  things  slowly...no  point  in  needlessly  killing  fish.  Smile
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 my  daddy  alwasy  preached  "patience  is  virtue".
 
 another  question.....  do  plants  help  speeding  up  the  cycling  process?
 
 i  had  started  another  thread  about  planting  money  plants,  etc  in  the  aquaria...  any  opinions  on  that  in  terms  of  cycling  and  dangers?
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 Plants  don't  speed  up  the  cycling  procees,  but  they  will  take  up  nitrates,  which  are  the  end  product  of  the  nitrification  process...  Terrestrial  plants  are  much  more  efficient  at  this  than  aquatic  plants.  Just  make  sure  they  are  not  toxic  to  fish.
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my  daddy  alwasy  preached  "patience  is  virtue".                  

 
 And  that  very  important  virtue  is  something  I  very  sadly  lack.    Rolling Eyes  
 
 Cycling  is  the  most  time-consuming  process,  but  once  you  get  it  right,  everything  sails  smoothly.  
 
 Once  I  started  cycling  my  new  tanks,  I  have  not  lost  even  a  single  fish  (desperately  crossing  my  finger  and  toes).  Razz
 
 And  as  Retro  suggested,  try  getting  yourself  a  hydrometer  first  at  those  laboratory  supplying  stores.  Check  the  yellow  pages  for  that.  
 
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 Hence,  go  in  the  bamboos  &  the  money  plants
 
 Thanx  for  the  gyan  Rahul.
 
 its  going  to  be  a  week  and  a  half  i  think  since  i  started  cycling...  or  maybe  even  more    Confused:  
 
 I  havent  added  the  salts  yet  Jenny...  altho  i  do  have  to  get  that  darn  hydro  meter...  i  did  call  a  few  ppl  but  they  dont  stock  it  apparently.
 
 Alls  well  ..except  that  i  havent  been  able  to  find  myself  those  ceylon  puffers  yet  Sad  ibut  im  still  looking!
 
 would  the  FW  puffers  possess  similar  characters  as  the  ceylon  puffers?
 
 if  i  dont  find  the  puffers,  i  guess  i'l  just  keep  it  a  FW  tank    (thatb  doesnt  mean  im  losing  hope)
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I  havent  added  the  salts  yet  Jenny...  altho  i  do  have  to  get  that  darn  hydro  meter...  i  did  call  a  few  ppl  but  they  dont  stock  it  apparently.                  

 
 Just  remember....  all  your  cycling  goes  waste  if  you  change  the  salinity.  The  bacteria  wouldn't  survive  then.    Smile  
 
 
                                                 
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would  the  FW  puffers  possess  similar  characters  as  the  ceylon  puffers?                

 
 Sometimes,  LFS  guys  sell  acclimatized  brackish  water  puffers.  They  slowly  acclimatize  brackish  water  fish  to  freshwater.  I  find  that  barbaric.  So,  please  clarify  that  before  you  buy  the  fish.  
 
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Dolphy  wrote:                
Just  remember....  all  your  cycling  goes  waste  if  you  change  the  salinity.  The  bacteria  wouldn't  survive  then.    Smile  
                 

 
 what  the!!?!  
 
 Rolling Eyes  
 
 well,  guess  daddy  was  right!
 
 i  guess  i'l  just  hafta  wait  till  i  find  the  puffers  first!i'l  start  cycling  a  smaller  2'x1'  tank  as  a  BW  one  from  today!
 
 thanx  jenny
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