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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:13 am Post subject: Re: PP for treating GillFlukes. Reply with quote

 how  can  one  do  100%  water  change,  should  we  remove  discus  out  of  the  tank  ,cause  their  might  be  people  having  one  tank  (even  i  have  one  tank),,,,,,,,so  whats  the  procedure
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 Unless  you  remove  your  discus  out  of  the  tank,  empty  entire  tank  &  refill  it  again;  it  wouldn't  be  called  100%  WC.  Otherwise,  keep  two  tanks  &  keep  shifting  your  discus  to  alternate  tank  so  as  to  achieve  100%  WC.  Chuckle  
 
 Jokes  apart,  you  don't  really  need  100%  WC  if  not  you  are  showcasing  your  discus  for  grand  championship.  As  monsoon  is  nearing,  BMC  has  already  increased  chlorine  content  in  its  water  supply  and  daily  35-40%  WC  should  be  fine  for  the  next  few  months.  Later  you  can  go  upto  90-95%  WC  if  you  want,  common  hobbyists  need  not  require  100%  WC.
 
 
 PS:  Have  split  this  topic  from  another  thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: Re: 100% water change Reply with quote

                                                   
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how  can  one  do  100%  water  change,  should  we  remove  discus  out  of  the  tank  ,cause  their  might  be  people  having  one  tank  (even  i  have  one  tank),,,,,,,,so  whats  the  procedure                

 
 There  are  several  ways  of  doing  100%WC  ,  provided  your  new  incoming  water  parameter  should  be  within  the  acceptable  limits  .  
 1)  You  can  empty  the  entire  tank  water  ,  your  discus  will  be  flat  on  bottom  glass  ,  there  may  be  very  little  water  left  .  then  immediately  fill  up  the  tank  up  to  certain  level  say  25%  again  siphon  out  the  water  and  then  fill  the  entire  tank  .  
 
 2)  You  remove  the  water  up   to   discus  Dorsal  fins  level  .  then  fill  up  the  entire  tank  ,  again  siphon  out  up  to  discus  size   ,  and  refill  it  again  .  you  are  actually  replacing  more  then  100%  of  water  here  .
 
 3)  When  you  use  Formalin  for  fish  treatment  ,  it  is  advisable  to  add  few  drops  of  Methylene  blue  to  give  blue  color  to  the  water  .  since  formalin  is  colorless  liquid  ,  adding  metheylene  blue  in  water  will  indicate  presence  of  Formalin  in  water  .  so  during  WC  ,  you  do  WC  till  such  time  blue  color  disappears  from  water  .   
 
 4)  You  can  also  use  two  pipes  at  same  time  ,  one  for  siphoning  and  other  for  refilling  .  start  siphoning  first  ,  once  water  level  reaches  till  the  size  of  discus  ,  start  filling  the  tank  with  new  water  without  removing  the  siphoning  pipe  .  so  your  both  pipes  are  at  work  ,  incomming  and  outgoing  ,  keep  this  for  few  minutues  you  will  be  replacing  the  tank  with  complete  new  water  .  
 
 So  100%  WC  in  short  means  replacing  the  entire  tank  with  new  water  .
 Normal  hobbiest  don't  requires  this  ,  but  in  our  hatchery  we  do  this  on  regular  basis  .  Siphoning  the  water  till  discus  height  is  normal  for   us  .
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: Re: 100% water change Reply with quote

                                                   
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 4)  You  can  also  use  two  pipes  at  same  time  ,  one  for  siphoning  and  other  for  refilling  .  start  siphoning  first  ,  once  water  level  reaches  till  the  size  of  discus  ,  start  filling  the  tank  with  new  water  without  removing  the  siphoning  pipe  .  so  your  both  pipes  are  at  work  ,  incomming  and  outgoing  ,  keep  this  for  few  minutues  you  will  be  replacing  the  tank  with  complete  new  water  .  
 
                 

 
 This  is  what  I  do  for  my  50%  weekly  WCs  for  my  fronts  -  makes  changing  water  so  easy  !  The  Draining  Hose  in  on  one  extreme  end  and  the  filling  hose  is  on  the  other.  Sometimes,  I  let  both  run  at  the  same  time  for  a  few  mins  and  it  flushes  out  the  water  and  dirt  well  for  me.
 
 Anyways,  kindly  excuse  my  ignorance  here  -  but  is'nt  it  bad  to  do  a  100%  WC  ?  I  mean  its  almost  like  rinsing  your  Filter  Media  and  entire  Bacterial  Bed  with  tap  water  (while  we  just  rinse  out  the  Filter  Media  with  Tank  Water)  ?  I  understand  that  one  has  to  try  to  match  the  'new'  water  exactly  with  the  existing  tank  water,  in  temp,  pH,  etc  but  still  I  have  a  feeling  that  a  100%  WC  is  not  necessary  at  all  and  can  infact  be  bad  for  the  good-guy  bacteria  and  fish  (IMHO)
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Anyways,   kindly   excuse   my   ignorance   here   -   but   is'nt   it   bad   to   do   a   100%   WC   ?   I   mean   its   almost   like   rinsing   your   Filter   Media   and   entire   Bacterial   Bed   with   tap   water   (while   we   just   rinse   out   the   Filter   Media   with   Tank   Water)   ?   I   understand   that   one   has   to   try   to   match   the   'new'   water   exactly   with   the   existing   tank   water,   in   temp,   pH,   etc   but   still   I   have   a   feeling   that   a   100%   WC   is   not   necessary   at   all   and   can   infact   be   bad   for   the   good-guy   bacteria   and   fish   (IMHO)                

 
 It  is  not  bad  to  do  100%WC  ,  100%  WC  is  recommended  only   for  certain  conditions  and  to  obtain  certain  results  .  It  is  always  not  necessary  .  I  don't  think  the  hobby  tank  needs  such  huge  WC  wherein  there  tanks  hold  few   discus  and  they  maintain  controlled  feeding  schedule  .
 
 I  don't  think  beneficial  bacterias  in  sponge  filters  is  destroyed  when  you  do  100%  WC  of  similar  water  parameter  .  even  if  you  keep  the  used  wet  sponge  filters  outside  the  tank   for  few  days  ,  the  benificial  bacteria  still  remains  alive  .  it  multiplies  vey  fast  once  they  kept  again  in  tank  water  .  
 
 
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 100%  Water  Changes  are  generally  not  necessary  unless  there  is  a  medication  issue  or  if  you  want  to  induce  breeding..  a  40-60%  water  change  if  done  regularly  (atleast  5-6  times  a  week)  will  keep  the  fish  in  good  health  and  the  fish  will  also  achieve  good  sizes...
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 Hi  there  !
 
 Thanks  for  the  kind  reply  and  for  explaining.  I  guess  that  cleared  a  few  doubts  of  mine...  Thanks  again  for  caring.
 
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