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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Hey  Guys
 
 Had  a  spare  18x15x15  tank  on  the  planted  tanks  rack,  the  tank  had  bombed  cause  it  had  Amazonia  II,  No  plants,  No  CO2  and  High  Light  .....  I  was  successfully  growing  a  Blue  Green  Algae  Carpet     Chuckle   ,  The  glass  on  all  sides  was  covered  with  brown  algae  and  i  could  not  even  see  through  it.  On  6th  Nov'09  decided  to  give  this  tank  a  makeover.  I  did  not  plan  the  scape  as  such,  just  went  with  the  flow
 
 Specifications
 
 Tank           :  18x15x15
 
 Lighting     :  1x36  Watts  PLL  6500K  :  7  Hrs
 
 Filteration:  Hagen  HOB  
 
 Substrate  :  ADA  Amazonia  II  &  White  Sand
 
 CO2            :  Pressurized  at  2  bps,  diffused  through  Ceramic  Diffuser
 
 Dosing        :  ADA  DO  AQUA!  Be  Green  and  ADA  Step  2
 
 Plants         :  Java  Moss              
   Dwarf  Hair  Grass
   E.  Tenellus              
   Marsilea  Crenata  
 
 Fauna         :  None  as  of  now
 
 
 All  plants  were  grown  emmersed,  so  they  look  very  big  after  planting  ...  especially  the  Tenellus,  hopefully  once  they  settle  down  and  start  sprouting  submersed  leaves,  the  scape  would  look  much  better.
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Hi  Seetharam
 
 The  scape  is  looking  good....I  am  sure  in  a  months  time  its  gonna  be  a  bueaty!  BTW  a  heads  up  on  the  white  sand  I  had  major  issues  with  it  in  a  clients  tank  it  was  mainly  due  to  the  high  silica  content  in  it.  Keep  an  eye  out  on  the  bio  filter.  Another  pointer  is  it  possible  to  move  the  hang  on  to  the  side  glass  instead  of  the  back  glass?
 All  the  Best!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Hey  Thanks  Harshal
 
 I  had  the  same  concerns  when  using  the  white  sand  ....  anyways  decided  to  go  ahead  with  it,  will  check  on  the  water  parameters,  if  its  too  bad  then  might  change  it.  
 
 Yep,  should  be  able  to  move  the  HOB  out  onto  the  side  .....  just  that  it  will  show  up  easily  when  you  see  the  entire  rack  ....  so  though  of  leaving  it  at  the  back  for  now.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Nice  concept.  Just  two  suggestions---(1)  can  you  make  planted  portion  more  steep---almost  like  a  mountain  slope  and  (2)  how  about  black/dark  background?
 
 You  can  also  try  a  slightly  longish  rock  protruding  hanging  over  the  sand.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Hi  Seetharam,
 
 Nice  starting.  Any  fauna  kept  in  mind  specially?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Seetharam,  you  said  you  had  Cyanobacteria  layer  on  the  substrate.  Did  you  cure  the  substrate  before  you  have  started  the  setup?  If  not,  go  for  Amoxi  treatment  before  the  biologocal  filtration  starts  setting  in.  And  check  the  nitrate  level  of  your  tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 @  Bappa:  Thanks  .....  I  did  make  the  planted  portion  as  steep  as  possible  .....  Right  now  the  plants  seem  to  be  hovering  over  the  rocks  as  the  tenellus  is  grown  emmersed  and  the  emmersed  leaves  are  larger  and  tall.  Hoping  once  the  submersed  leaves  start  coming  the  scape  will  look  better.
 
 @  Anand:  Thanks,  No  Fauna  decided  as  of  now,  i  was  thinking  of  making  it  my  second  tank  for  Crystal  Red  Shrimps,  but  will  finalize  that  once  i  see  how  the  water  parameters  are.
 
 @  Tirtha  :  The  Blue  Green  algae  layer  was  so  thick  it  literally  peeled  off  like  a  sheet  of  paper,  removed  all  of  it  carefully,  when  setting  i  did  like  5  water  changes,  would  fill  the  tank  up  and  drain.
 
 Can  you  give  me  more  details  on  why  you  are  asking  to  do  a  Amoxi  treatment?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 HI  Seetharam,
 
 The  scape  is  looking  great.  As  harshal  menitioned,  should  give  it  a  month  to  month  and  a  hlf  to  see  it  turn  into  a  stunner.
 
 Have  you  deceided   on  the  forground  plant?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Yep  .....  Had  some  Marsilea  growing  emmersed  in  one  of  my  tubs,  used  that  for  foreground   Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Another  interesting  thread,  Seetharam.
 
 Am  going  to  follow  this  thread  to  watch  this  tank  grow  into  a  stunner.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

                                                   
Seetharam  wrote  (View  Post):                
@  Tirtha  :  The  Blue  Green  algae  layer  was  so  thick  it  literally  peeled  off  like  a  sheet  of  paper,  removed  all  of  it  carefully,  when  setting  i  did  like  5  water  changes,  would  fill  the  tank  up  and  drain.
 
 Can  you  give  me  more  details  on  why  you  are  asking  to  do  a  Amoxi  treatment?                

 
 Buddy,  BG  algae  is  such  a  nasty  stuff,  that  it  can  screw  up  the  tank  environment  in  no  time.  If  it  goes  out  of  control,  it  will  kill  fishes  as  well  as  the  plants.  I  know,  they  can  be  pilled  off  easily  but  the  remains  will  be  always  there.  
 
 They  thrives  under  very  low  (Almost  0)  nitrate  level  and  poor  water  circulation.  So  increasing  the  Nitrate  level  and  water  circulation  can  stop  them  spreading  but  won't  be  able  to  wipe  them  out.  
 
 So  you  have  to  use  antibiotics.  But  in  other  hand,  using  Amoxi  will  damage  the  biological  filtration.  As  the  tank  is  new  it's  always  better  to  go  under  Amoxi  treatment  before  it  starts  to  settle  in.
 
 Otherwise  you  can  go  with  erythromycin.  It  will  not  damage  the  Biological  filtration  but  bit  slower  than  Amoxi.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 Nayakere  .....  Thanks  .....  Im  waiting  for  some  updates  on  the  fish  room   Smile  
 
 
                                                 
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@  Tirtha  :  The  Blue  Green  algae  layer  was  so  thick  it  literally  peeled  off  like  a  sheet  of  paper,  removed  all  of  it  carefully,  when  setting  i  did  like  5  water  changes,  would  fill  the  tank  up  and  drain.
 
 Can  you  give  me  more  details  on  why  you  are  asking  to  do  a  Amoxi  treatment?                

 
 Buddy,  BG  algae  is  such  a  nasty  stuff,  that  it  can  screw  up  the  tank  environment  in  no  time.  If  it  goes  out  of  control,  it  will  kill  fishes  as  well  as  the  plants.  I  know,  they  can  be  pilled  off  easily  but  the  remains  will  be  always  there.  
 
 They  thrives  under  very  low  (Almost  0)  nitrate  level  and  poor  water  circulation.  So  increasing  the  Nitrate  level  and  water  circulation  can  stop  them  spreading  but  won't  be  able  to  wipe  them  out.  
 
 So  you  have  to  use  antibiotics.  But  in  other  hand,  using  Amoxi  will  damage  the  biological  filtration.  As  the  tank  is  new  it's  always  better  to  go  under  Amoxi  treatment  before  it  starts  to  settle  in.
 
 Otherwise  you  can  go  with  erythromycin.  It  will  not  damage  the  Biological  filtration  but  bit  slower  than  Amoxi.                

 
 Got  it  ....  Thanks  for  the  info  Tirtha  ....  Let  me  observe  the  tank  for  a  few  days  for  any  signs  of  disaster,  then  probably  will  go  with  erythromycin  .....  I  hate  dosing  any  anti  biotics  to  my  tanks   Thumb Down
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: New Scape - The Beach : 06 Nov'09 Reply with quote

 i  like  it  the  way  it  is.  
 
 but  i  guess  hairgrass  should  grow  in  the  middle  portions  and  the  tenellus  should  grow  right  next  to  the  rocks(right  now  it  is  opposite).  and  tenellus  should  be  in  front  of  the  hair  grass  as  hairgras  really  grows  very  tall.
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 Awesome  Sir   Thumb Up  
 Please  keep  us  posted  on  this  development...  Now  i  got  one  more  reason  to  visit  your  place  Very Happy
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 @  Mudassar  :  Thanks  ....  I  dont  think  Dwarf  Hairgrass  grows  taller  than  E.  Tenellus  ,  unless  it  is  Vivipara.  Thats  the  reason  why  Hairgrass  has  been  kept  in  the  middle.
 
 @  Saurav  :  Thanks  ....  As  with  my  other  tanks,  will  keep  updating  as  the  tank  progresses
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