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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: Upcoming 180 GALLON CICHLID TANK Reply with quote

 hi  ,  guys  this  is  devansh  here   Rock On  ,  i  have  been  keeping  a   3  feeter  (30  g)  or  about  8   months  (  have  no  experience  of  fish  keeping  in  winters),  i  am  gonna  buy  a  180US  gallon  (600  litres)  tank  of  6x2x2  feet   Thumbs Up  ,  i  am  buying  a  used  one  so  its  cheaper  ,  will  also  be  getting  gravel  &  hood  with  it.
 i  want  to  know  opinions  of  all  of  u  guys  on  various  aspects  from  moving  to  filtration.
 
 Firstly  should  i  start  setting  it  up  right  now  or  after  a  "winter  experience"  with  30  gallon  which  has  1  fh  &  some  cichlids???
 other  imp  question:
 
 1.  I  will  be  transporting  it  in  a  small  tempo  from  about  45  kms  ,  what  things  &  precautions  to  keep  in  mind??
 2.  how  many  days  will  it  take  to  cycle  if  i  add  50  litres  from  my  tank  ,  some  gravel  &  some  cheap  fishes  (20)??  how  can  i  know  it  has  cycled  without  wasting  money  on  test  kits??
 3.  i  cant  afford  a  good  external  filter  so  i  will  be  going  for  2  internal  filters  &  1battery  opereated  pump  for  emergency,  what  will  u  recommend  as  a  hassle  free  internal/top/HOB  filter  ??  
 4.should  i  go  for  sump??  does  it  require  a  lot  of  maintenance  &  cost??
 5.i  am  thinking  of  buying  2  heaters  for  this  tank  ,  the  cheap  ones  ,  fine??
 6.i  want  to  keep  3  golden  arowana  ,  only  one  first  &  about  30  cichlids,  what  cichlids  to  go  with  when  aros  are  10  inch  long??  african  /tang  or  american??
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Upcoming 180 GALLON CICHLID TANK Reply with quote

 Hi  Devansh,
 
 There  are  a  bit  too  many  questions  in  your  post..  Smile   I  will  try  to  address  a  few  of  them..
 
 1.  Stop  calling  Jardini/Pearl  Arowanas  as  "Golden  Arowanas"..  Don't  keep  a  Pearl  Arowana  with  Cichlids  or  with  other  Pearl  Arowanas.  I  strongly  recommend  going  for  either  Silver  Arowana  with  tank-mates  (Gars,  large  Cichlids  etc)  or  with  a  Cichlid-only  tank..  (CA/SA  or  African  is  a  whole  different  debate  Smile)
 
 2.  In  addition  to  the  tank,  gravel  and  hood,  one  major  expense  is  the  "stand"/Rack  to  keep  the  tank  on.  When  planning  for  a  180  Gal.  tank  myself,  I  was  quoted  such  a  ridiculous  price  for  the  stand  that  I  actually  got  angry  and  broke  the  deal  off..
 
 3.  Regarding  cycling  the  tank:  Water  from  old  tank  is  not  going  to  be  of  much  help..  On  the  other  hand,  filters  from  the  old  tank  (with  the  bacteria  culture  in  the  sponge/media)  is  going  to  be  great  help  in  jumpstarting  your  new  tank.  Get  a  few  HUGE  sponge  filters  (largest  one(~7  inches)  I  have  cost  about  250  bucks)  and  keep  them  running  in  your  current  tank.  When  you  transfer  these  filters  to  your  new  tank,  that  will  shorten  the  cycling  time  of  your  tank  drastically.
 
 4.  A  sump  is  going  to  be  cheaper  than  an  good  quality  canister  filter,  but  more  expensive  (I  think)  than  internal/HOB  filters.  I  think  it  is  worth  going  that  little  bit  extra  and  getting  a  sump  rather  than  internal  filters..  <---  Let's  see  what  the  experts  comment  on  this  part.
 
 5.  For  an  idea  of  prices  for  filters,  heaters  etc,  check  this  website  out:  http://www.shopatsimba.com/categories_list.php?cPath=410&osCsid=ebc879ad9a4337bda6ebf6c8c6bc2f7b
 
 
 Good  luck,
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:45 am Post subject: Re: Upcoming 180 GALLON CICHLID TANK Reply with quote

 thanks  a  ton  sid  ,   yaa  i  will  try  keeping  african  cihlids  only  tank  ,  regarding  sump  can  u  give  me  some  suggestions  as  to  the  size  ,  filters  etc......is  sump  difficult  to  mantain??
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Upcoming 180 GALLON CICHLID TANK Reply with quote

 Sidrock  always  comes  out  with  generous  explanations...   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Upcoming 180 GALLON CICHLID TANK Reply with quote

 Hi  Devansh
 
 Dont  worry  about  the  winters  here,  as  i  have  been  keeping  a  tank  since  3yrs  now  and  winters  wont  give  u  any  problems  until  u  have  your  thermostat  heater  on  24*7.
 
 1.  Moving  a  tank  that  size  would  be  a  cumbersome  process,  trust  me  i  just  bought  a  4*2*2  tank  made  in  12mm  glass  and  just  to  lift  the  tank  from  its  stand  required  4  people.  I  transported  it  in  a  tempo  along  with  the  stand  (bought  the  tank  along  with  the  iron  stand).  The  moving  process  was  quite  tiring  and  i  ended  up  with  a  cut  on  my  finger  which  required  2  stitches).  So  to  move  a  6*2*2  tank  would  require  at  least  4-5  people.  Be  extra  careful  while  shifting  the  tank.   
 
 2.  Putting  50  liters  of  water  to  recycle  that  tank  wont  be  of  much  help,  but  using  old  filters  as  mentioned  by  Sid  will  be  really  helpful  in  initiating  the  cycling  process.
 
 3.  Internal  filters  wont  be  of  much  help  for  a  tank  that  size,  Making  a  sump  is  the  best  option  for  u  given  the  budget  constraint.  Sump  would  work  better  as  well  and  will  be  a  multipurpose  option,  if  going  forward  u  decide  to  switch  to  marine  setup  or  planted  setup  all  u  have  to  do  is  change  the  filter  media  accordingly.  Smile  (if  u  want  u  can  visit  my  place  and  see  what  filter  i  have  made  for  my  4*2*2  tank,  its  a  sort  of  mix  of  a  sump  and  a  canister....  and  it  works  really  well...  SmileSmile)  (I  stay  in  Gurgaon  btw)
 
 4.  2  300W  heaters  would  work  well  for  the  tank,  and  u  can  get  a  good  deal  on  them  from  a  LFS  which  is  in  Laxminagar,  (Fish  Aquarium  Home)
 
 5.  About  the  aros  i  have  no  idea  as  never  have  kept  them,  the  aro  experts  will  guide  u  better.  
 
 Best  of  luck  man......  SmileSmile  
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Upcoming 180 GALLON CICHLID TANK Reply with quote

 thanks  vijendra,  Thumb Up   i  have  just  read  about  sump  &  its  looking  quite  complex  right  now  ,  will  try  to  understand  the  whole  process  again  ,  the  only  doubt  i  have  is  that  wont  the  overflow  box  be  a  hurdle  in  pitting  the  tank  top,  will  i  have  to  cut  the  top??  also  do  tell  me  the  retrun  pump  u  are  using  ,  did  u  set  the  whole  sump  by  yourself.  if  possible  plz  post  pics  with  instrucions  of  your  sump  it  will  be  of  much  help.
 
 i  will  keep  on  updating  .
 
 thanks  &  regards,
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Sidrock  always  comes  out  with  generous  explanations...   Thumb Up                

 
 
 vivek  i  just  saw  your  site  ,  u  got  a  relly  nice  tank  setup,  with  what  type  of  wood  have  u  made  the  stand  with??
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 Sad
 well  as  of  now  the  setup  has  been  delayed  by  2  weeks   as  my  LFS  is  closed  ,  will  get  a  new  tank  with  one  side  of  xtra  clear  glass.
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 Hey  I  used  teak  wood  for  frame  and  ply  to  cover  up,  it's  a  great  idea  to  go  with  extra  clear  glass..
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Hi  Devansh
 
 Dont  worry  about  the  winters  here,  as  i  have  been  keeping  a  tank  since  3yrs  now  and  winters  wont  give  u  any  problems  until  u  have  your  thermostat  heater  on  24*7.
 
 1.  Moving  a  tank  that  size  would  be  a  cumbersome  process,  trust  me  i  just  bought  a  4*2*2  tank  made  in  12mm  glass  and  just  to  lift  the  tank  from  its  stand  required  4  people.  I  transported  it  in  a  tempo  along  with  the  stand  (bought  the  tank  along  with  the  iron  stand).  The  moving  process  was  quite  tiring  and  i  ended  up  with  a  cut  on  my  finger  which  required  2  stitches).  So  to  move  a  6*2*2  tank  would  require  at  least  4-5  people.  Be  extra  careful  while  shifting  the  tank.   
 
 2.  Putting  50  liters  of  water  to  recycle  that  tank  wont  be  of  much  help,  but  using  old  filters  as  mentioned  by  Sid  will  be  really  helpful  in  initiating  the  cycling  process.
 
 3.  Internal  filters  wont  be  of  much  help  for  a  tank  that  size,  Making  a  sump  is  the  best  option  for  u  given  the  budget  constraint.  Sump  would  work  better  as  well  and  will  be  a  multipurpose  option,  if  going  forward  u  decide  to  switch  to  marine  setup  or  planted  setup  all  u  have  to  do  is  change  the  filter  media  accordingly.  Smile  (if  u  want  u  can  visit  my  place  and  see  what  filter  i  have  made  for  my  4*2*2  tank,  its  a  sort  of  mix  of  a  sump  and  a  canister....  and  it  works  really  well...  SmileSmile)  (I  stay  in  Gurgaon  btw)
 
 4.  2  300W  heaters  would  work  well  for  the  tank,  and  u  can  get  a  good  deal  on  them  from  a  LFS  which  is  in  Laxminagar,  (Fish  Aquarium  Home)
 
 5.  About  the  aros  i  have  no  idea  as  never  have  kept  them,  the  aro  experts  will  guide  u  better.  
 
 Best  of  luck  man......  SmileSmile  
 
 Do  keep  us  posted  abt  how  things  go                

 
 thanks  vijendra  ,  can  u  tell  me  more  anout  your  sump  ,  like  what   is  the  size  ,  pump  ,  partitions  &  filter  media...i  will  definitely  visit  u  whenver  i  come  near  gurgaon  ,  plz  PM  me  about  the  total  cost  of  the  sump....thanks  again.
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