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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

 Hey  all,  
 
 Here  is  a  list  of  some  popular  Central  /  North  American  Cichlids.  I  request  everyone’s  help  and  guidance  to  compile  a  list  of  Central  /  North  American  Cichlids  that  are  available  in  India  through  LFS,  Breeders  &  Hobbyists.  
 
 I  do  welcome  everyone  to  update  the  
 A)  Availability  List  in  India  &  
 B)  Wanted  List  

 
 so  that,  the  hobbyist  who  are  looking  for  these  cichlids  can  source  them  with  mutual  help  and  guidances.  I  hope,  in  Chennai,  Bangalore  &  Mumbai,  the  availability  ratio  is  higher  for  these  cichlids.  
 
 (Common  Name,  Scientific  name,  Average  Size)
 
 01,  Midas  Cichlid,  Amphilophus  citrinellus,  15  Inches
 02,  Red  Devil  Cichlid,  Amphilophus  labiatus,  15  Inches
 03,  Roberts  Cichlid  /  Blue  Sifter  ,  Amphilophus  robertsoni,  10  Inches
 04,  Lyonsi  Cichlid,  Amphilophus  lyonsi,  8  Inches
 05,  Convict  Cichlid,  Archocentrus  nigrofasciatus,  6  Inches
 06,  T-Bar  Cichlid,  Archocentrus  sajica,  5  Inches
 07,  Yellow  Dwarf,  Archocentrus  nanoluteus,  5  Inches
 08,  Flyer  Cichlid  /  Green  Fin,  Archocentrus  centrarchus,  6  Inches
 09,  Jack  Dempsey,  Archocentrus  octofasciatum  (or)  'Cichlasoma'  octofasciatum,  10  Inches
 10,  Multispin  Cichlid,  Archocentrus  multispinosus,  6   Inches
 11,  Turquoise  Cichlid  /  Umbie  ,  Caquetaia  umbrifera,  24  Inches
 12,  Golden  Mojarra,  'Cichlasoma'  bocourti,  12  Inches
 13,  Bean's  Cichlid,  'Cichlasoma'  beani,  12  Inches
 14,  Pearse  Cichlid,  'Cichlasoma'  pearsei,  12  Inches
 15,  Salvin's  Cichlid,  'Cichlasoma'  salvini,  7  Inches
 16,  Tri-Mac,  Three  Spot,  'Cichlasoma'  trimaculatum,  15  Inches
 17,  Mayan  Cichlid  /  'False'  Red  Terror,  'Cichlasoma'  uropthalmus,  
 18,  Green  Texas,  Pearl  Scale  Cichlid,  Herichthys  carpintis,  10  Inches
 19,  Texas  Cichlid,  Herichthys  cyanoguttatus,  10  Inches
 20,  Nicaragua  Cichlid  /  Macaw  Cichlid,  Hypsophrys  nicaraguensis,  10  Inches
 21,  Rainbow  Cichlid,  Herotilapia  multispinosa,  6  Inches
 22,  'Odo'  Cichlid,  Black  Nasty,  Nandopsis  haitiensis,  15  Inches
 23,  Cuban  Cichlid,  Nandopsis  tetracanthus,  14  Inches
 24,  Wolf  Cichlid,  Rainbow  Bass,  Parachromis  dovii,  24  Inches
 25,  Freddy',  Yellow  Jacket  Cichlid,  Parachromis  friedrichsthalii,  12  Inches
 26,  Loiselle's  cichlid,  Parachromis  loisellei,  12  Inches
 27,  Jaguar  /  Managua  Cichlid,  Parachromis  managuensis,  16  Inches
 28,  Elliot's  cichlid,  Thorichthys  ellioti,  7  Inches
 29,  Fire  Mouth  Cichlid,  Thorichthys  meeki,  6  Inches
 30,  Asfraci  Cichlid,  Tomocichla  asfraci,  ,  10  Inches
 
 Viejas
 
 31,  Silver  Vieja,  Vieja  argentea,  14  Inches
 32,  Bifa'  or  Two  Stripe  Cichlid,  Vieja  bifasciatus,  
 33,  Window  Cichlid,  Vieja  fenestratus,  16  Inches
 34,  Godman's  Cichlid,  Vieja  godmanni,  14  Inches
 35,  Red  Tailed  or  Red  Spot  Cichlid,  Vieja  guttulatum,  16  Inches
 36,  Intermedius  Cichlid,  Vieja  intermedium,  12  Inches
 37,  Black  Belt  Cichlid,  Vieja  maculicauda,  16  Inches
 38,  Black  Tail  Vieja,  Vieja  melanurus,  16  Inches
 39,  Regans  Cichlid,  Vieja  regani,  
 40,  Quetzal  Cichlid/Fire  Head,  Vieja  synspilum,  17  Inches
 
 Hybrids:
 
 41,  Flowerhorn
 42,  Red  Texas  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

 Hey  All,  
 
 Here  is  my  confirmation  of  Available  List  (That  i'm  aware  of  and  which  i've  seen  directly  in  various  LFS  in  India).  I  guess,  everyone  will  update  this  list,  if  they  have  seen  other  cichlids  among  this  list.   
 
 Available  List  in  India
 
 01,  Midas  Cichlid,  Amphilophus  citrinellus,  
 02,  Red  Devil  Cichlid,  Amphilophus  labiatus,  
 05,  Convict  Cichlid,  Archocentrus  nigrofasciatus,  
 15,  Salvin's  Cichlid,  'Cichlasoma'  salvini,  
 16,  Tri-Mac,  Three  Spot,  'Cichlasoma'  trimaculatum,  
 18,  Green  Texas,  Pearl  Scale  Cichlid,  Herichthys  carpintis,  
 19,  Texas  Cichlid,  Herichthys  cyanoguttatus,  
 23,  Cuban  Cichlid,  Nandopsis  tetracanthus,  
 24,  Wolf  Cichlid,  Rainbow  Bass,  Parachromis  dovii,  
 27,  Jaguar,  Managua  Cichlid,  Parachromis  managuensis,  
 29,  Fire  Mouth  Cichlid,  Thorichthys  meeki,  
 40,  Fire  Head,  Quetzal  Cichlid,  Vieja  synspilum,  
 41,  Flowerhorn  
 42,  Red  Texas  (Available  in  India,  but  mostly  poor  quality)  
 
 
 My  Wanted  List  (Please  let  me  know,  if  the  following  Cichlids  are  spotted  in  LFS  or  anyone  have  them  for  sale.  I'm  interested  in  all  the  following.)  
 
 04,  Lyonsi  Cichlid,  Amphilophus  lyonsi,  
 06,  T-Bar  Cichlid,  Archocentrus  sajica
 09,  Jack  Dempsey,  Archocentrus  octofasciatum  â€“  Electric  Blue  Only  
 10,  Multispin  Cichlid,  Archocentrus  multispinosus
 14,  Pearse  Cichlid,  'Cichlasoma'  pearsei,  
 23,  Cuban  Cichlid,  Nandopsis  tetracanthus,  
 31,  Silver  Vieja,  Vieja  argentea,  
 40,  Fire  Head,  Quetzal  Cichlid,  Vieja  synspilum,  
 42,  Red  Texas  (Hybrid)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

 Hey  All,  
 
 Where  are  all  the  Cichlid  Experts?/   I  know,  many  of  us  might  be  keeing  few  rare  cichlids  here.  
 
 Can  some  one  confirm,  from  where  we  can  get  the  above  cichlids  in  india.  
 
 Some  info,  like  if  it  is  available  in  particular  LFS  or  spotted  in  some  city  etc  is  welcome.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

 Hi  indianoscar!I'm  surprised  you  have  not  seen  blue  dempseys....."Sagar  Aquarium"  of  Baroda  has  4-6  specimens  of  the  same.You  may  call  him  to  enquire.He  is  sagaraqua  on  IAH.I'll  post  his  number  after  I  ask  his  permission  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

 Cubans,  neon  pot  flowerhorns,  midas  r  available  with  a  breeder  here...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

 Wonder  why  
 
 Heros  severus  (golden  and  green  severums  are  not  added  here)
 Blood  Parrot  Cichlid  is  another  commonly  available  ones  in  LFS  here
 Gold  Saum  
 Green  terrors  
 
 
 Peaceful  guys  like
 Bolivian  Ram,  Microgeophagus  altispinosa  
 Blue/Gold  Ram  Microgeophagus  ramirezi
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

                                                   
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Wonder  why  
 
 Heros  severus  (golden  and  green  severums  are  not  added  here)
 Blood  Parrot  Cichlid  is  another  commonly  available  ones  in  LFS  here
 Gold  Saum  
 Green  terrors  
 
 Peaceful  guys  like
 Bolivian  Ram,  Microgeophagus  altispinosa  
 Blue/Gold  Ram  Microgeophagus  ramirezi
 
 Raghu                

 
 Hey  Raghu,  
 
 Severums,  Green  Terrors,  Ram's  etc  are  not  added  up  in  this  list,  for  they  all  belong  to  Popular  South  American  Cichlids.  Â This  list  is  just  a  compilation  of  Central  /  North  American  Cichlid's.  
 
 Regarding  the  Hybrids  ,  Flowerhorn  &  Red  Texas  was  listed  here  ,  because  most  of  their  "biological  parents"  belong  to  the  Central  American  Category.  
 
 Well,  now  the  real  question  is  ...  Where  should  we  include  the  Blood  Parrot  Cichlid?.  Â I  guess  both  Central  American  &  South  American  Cichlids  are  the  biological  parents  of  this  hybrid,  Blood  Parrot.  
 
 The  blood  parrot  cichlid  is  a  man-made  hybrid.  The  exact  origins  of  the  fish  are  unclear  but  it  appears  to  be  a  cross  between  a  South  American  cichlid,  likely  the  severum  (Heros  severus)  and  a  Central  American  cichlid,  likely  the  midas  cichlid  (Amphilophus  citrinellus)  or  the  red  devil  (Amphilophus  labiatus).
 
 So,  the  question  is  Where  do  we  list  this  Bood  Parrot  Hybrid.  A  Central  American  or  South  American  Cichlid?
 
 Note::  The  most  interesting  thing  is,  there  are  two  type  of  Parrot  Cichlids  
 
 They  are  
 a)  Parrot  cichlid  (Hoplarchus  psittacus)  -  A  true  species  from  South  America.  It  is  a  green  color  cichlid  and  look  different  from  the  normal  hybrid  blood  parrots  that  we  see  in  most  LFS.  The  term  parrot  would  have  been  coined  based  on  te  green  colorage  of  the  bird  parrot.  
 
 b)  Blood  Red  Parrot.  -  The  Hybrid  that  we  see  in  most  LFS.  Â Mostly  the  term  parrot  would  have  been  coined  based  on  the  'parrot  face'  appeal  in  this  cichlids.  No  scientific  name  is  assigned  to  this  Cichlid.  
 
 In  the  hobby,  many  people  might  support  hybrids  like  Flower  Horn  &  Red  Texas.  Though  some  agressive  natures  and  characters  are  not  predictable  ,  they  seems  to  be  some  mutational  genetic  enhancement  over  some  popular  cichlids  like  Trimac  (Flowerhorn)  &  Red  Texas  (Pearly  Green  Texas).  
 
 But,  again  Blood  Parrot  is  still  hated  or  not  promoted  much  by  many  hobbyist  for  its  Deformation  (Deformed  swim  bladder  and  curved  spine,  extra  large  eyes).  Â 
 
 Hybrids  are  "Hybrids"  again...........  (Personally  i  am  against  hybrids  ,  and  dont  promote  or  trade  Blood  Parrots.  But,  still  for  trading  part  and  hobby  part,  i  collect  flowerhorns  and  red  texas).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

 Cool,
   My  mistake....  Did  not  read  your  post  compleatly,  Thought  only  American  Cichlids...
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 Hi  Indianoscar,  a  small  doubt...under  your  "Available  list  in  India"  you  have  listed  Tri-Mac,  Three  Spot,  'Cichlasoma'  trimaculatum,  are  you  sure  you  have  seen  the  true  blooded  Trimac  or  was  it  just  another  look  alike  Flowerhorn,  would  love  to  keep  ne  of  those  true  trimacs.....please  clarify   Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Popular 42 Central American Cichlids – in India Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Indianoscar,  a  small  doubt...under  your  "Available  list  in  India"  you  have  listed  Tri-Mac,  Three  Spot,  'Cichlasoma'  trimaculatum,  are  you  sure  you  have  seen  the  true  blooded  Trimac  or  was  it  just  another  look  alike  Flowerhorn,  would  love  to  keep  ne  of  those  true  trimacs.....please  clarify  Â Smile                

 
 Hey  Oscar-lover,  
 
 Even  many  have  the  same  doubt  like  you  arised  including  me.  Infact  everyone  is  aware  that  most  of  the  'ordinary  FH',  or  what  people  call  as  3rd  grade  FH  resembles  the  "Tri-Mac,  Three  Spot,  'Cichlasoma'  trimaculatum,".  In  overseas,  nowadays  many  LFS  sell  true  Trimac  as  Flowerhorn  ,  for  FH  fetch  more  money  than  any  natural  cichlids.  
 
 In  a  reverse  business  line,  in  India,  we  are  flooded  with  all  3rd  and  4th  grade  FH,  so  LFS  add  fancy  name  like  "Golden  Trimac',  or  Red  Trimac"  so,  these  branding  fetches  good  money.  
 
 But,  you  can  offcourse  spot  some  true  Trimac  (or  some  hybrid  of  true  trimac)  once  in  a  while  in  some  LFS.  Again  it  is  hard  to  identify  them  before  4  to  5  inches.  Normally,  FH  have  more  spread  of  red  coloration  on  the  body,  is  very  taller  than  trimac  and  have  little  bulkier  body.  In  turn,  Trimac  have  red  on  front  face  side,  is  more  longer  and  short,   and  not  as  bulkier  as  a  FH.  Also,  the  hump  of  an  adult  male  trimac  is  also  very  small  and  is  seen  only  with  few.  
 
 Anyhow,  it  is  hard  to  get  a  100%  true  trimac  even  overseas.  Only  Jeff  Rapps  of  http://www.tangledupincichlids.com/  can  assure  you  that.  
 
 If  you  are  very  concerned  ,  i  can  help  you  to  arrange  some  trimac  (that  is  labelled  as  trimac  by  breeders)  which  offcourse  dont  resemble  like  flowerhorn  body  shape.  Offcourse  species  genuinity  is  a  big  question,  is  it?.  So  wait  till  you  find  an  Indian  Jeff  Rapps  Very Happy
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