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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Hi,  
 
 Is  DYE  MAX  Filters  Good.  I  am  Purchasing  it  so  i  would  like  to  have  some  suggestions  about  this  whether  this  good  or  not.  Its  strength  is  750  liters  per  hour.
 
 
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 Sharath,
   Whats  the  tank  that  you  are  looking  at  putting  this,  More  details  of  the  tank  would  help  us  suggest  you  better.  If  its  a  hi-Tech  planted  tank  and  i  would  not  go  with  this,  Due  to  the  fact  that  this  creates  a  lot  of  turbulance.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Hi  Raghu,  
 
 
 I  have  a  2  feet  X  1  feet  X  1  feet  Tank.  In  this  i  have  only  1Gold  Fish  which  is  of  7inches  and  2  Kissing  Gourami  which  is  of  the  same  size  and  an  Angle.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Note  that  Gold  fishes  and  others  in  your  tank  require  a  totally  different  environrment  of  temp  PH  and  other  specs.  Your  tank  is  too  small  for  a  gold  fish.
 
 I  would  recommend  giving  away  the  gold  fish  if  you  are  willing  to  go   for  a  planted  tank.
 
 Even  Kissing  gourami  is  also  not  recommended.  Go  in  with  only  angels  may  be  a  pair  will  look  great  in  the  tank.
 
 Now  for  the  filter,  I  would  recommend  that  you  go  with  a  Eheim  2213.  Cause  the  others  would  cause  turbulance  and  would  render  useless  for  your  planted  tank.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Raghu
 
 even  I  have  a  planted  tank  which  of  18X11X11  Inches.  What  is  the  speciality  of  this  Dy  Max  filter.  Now  what  is  the  next  step...  Why  is  it  not  good  for  this  tank.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Sharath,
   The  filter  of  750ltr  capacity  should  be  a  power  filter  or  a  HOB  filter,  Power  filters  can  rip  the  leaves  of  plants  and  both  HOB  and  power  filters  create  a  lot  of  turbulance  which  makes  the  Co2  escape.  Hence  they  are  not  suited  for  planted  tanks.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Raghu,
 
 Can  i  use  this  in  the  2  Feet  Tank.  now  i  have  ordinary  Filter  in  the  so  i  would  like  to  replace.  The  filter  which  we  get  for  30  or  40  bugs.
 
 
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 Hi  Sharath,
   What  filters  do  you  get  for  30  a  piece  buddy,  can  you  post  further  details  of  it,  A  pic  would  be  even  better.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Raghu,
 I  guess  you  and  sharath  are  not  on  same  page.
 Sharath  wanted  to  know  if  a  HOB  filter  will  do  for  his  2X1X1  tank  where  he  plans  to  house  a  goldfish  and  other  fishes  that  he  mentioned.
 You  are  very  right  about  not  housing  those  fishes  in  a  small  tank.
 But  he  never  mentioned  about  a  planted  tank  till  then  Smile
 So  i  guess  we  can  safely  ignore  planted  tank  constraints  for  a  while.
 
 Sharath,
 2X1X1  tank  can  hold  abt  55  ltrs  of  water.
 750  LPH  HOB  will  be  on  a  higher  side  for  a  tank  as  small  as  that.
 You  could  do  with  an  internal  power  filter  with  a  flow  rate  of  abt  300  LPH.
 Brand  shouldnt  matter  as  a  filter  of  that  power  shud  cost  you  few  hundred  bucks  and  will  easily  last  for  atleast  an  year  or  even  more.
 
 There  will  be  turbulence  with  an  internal  power  filter.Angels  do  not  prefer  turbulence  in  water.
 I  can  guess  that  can  be  tackled  with  a  usage  of  spray  bar.
 
 
 But,
 Raghu  is  very  right  about  the  choice  of  your  fishes.  The  mix  of  your  fishes   isnt  very  good.
 
 Hope  that  helps.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Sharath,
   What  filters  do  you  get  for  30  a  piece  buddy,  can  you  post  further  details  of  it,  A  pic  would  be  even  better.
 
 Raghu                

 He  must  be  talking  about  a  sponge  filer  driven  by  an  air  pump.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

                                                   
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Raghu
 
 even  I  have  a  planted  tank  which  of  18X11X11  Inches.  What  is  the  speciality  of  this  Dy  Max  filter.  Now  what  is  the  next  step...  Why  is  it  not  good  for  this  tank.
 
 Regards
 
 Sharath                

 Rohan,
 This  is  where  i  got  confused.
 
 And  so
 
                                                 
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Sharath,
   The  filter  of  750ltr  capacity  should  be  a  power  filter  or  a  HOB  filter,  Power  filters  can  rip  the  leaves  of  plants  and  both  HOB  and  power  filters  create  a  lot  of  turbulance  which  makes  the  Co2  escape.  Hence  they  are  not  suited  for  planted  tanks.
 
 Raghu                

 
 I  talked  about  both  HOB  and  power  filter.
 
 I  suppose  Sarath  still  is  looking  for  a  planted  tank  setup  and  is  trying  for  a  filter.
 
 Or  i  may  be   Drinking  
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Or  i  may  be   Drinking  
 
 Raghu                

 
 i  thot  u  are  planted  tank  obsessed   and  so  you  keep  thinking  only  abt  it  :chuckle:
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What  filters  do  you  get  for  30  a  piece  buddy,  can  you  post  further  details  of  it,  A  pic  would  be  even  better                

 
 A  simple  Indian  made  corner  filter  driven  by  an  air  pump...  Thumb Up
 
 @  RGG  (Raghu)
 
 
                                                 
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Now  for  the  filter,  I  would  recommend  that  you  go  with  a  Eheim  2213.  Cause  the  others  would  cause  turbulance  and  would  render  useless  for  your  planted  tank.                

 
 Dont  you  think  Eheim  2213  will  be  too  much  costly  for  him...Confused
 
 @  Mini,
 
 I  will  suggest  you  to  go  for  a  top  filter...  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Re: About Hang On Filters Reply with quote

 Rocky,
   I  would  certainly  think  of  a  Eheim  2213  or  a  Eheim  Ecco  2231   provided  i  do  not  have  a  price  constrain.  
 
   As  i  feel  these  filters  do  not  give  me  any  sought  of  turbulance  as  compared  to  any  other  cannister  or  HOB  or  a  power  filter,  Hence  any  sought  of  Co2  stays  trapped  inside.  This  i  feel  is  the  best  suited  if  its  a  planted  tank.  
 
 In-arguably  i  can  be  rest  assured  that  i  need  not  have  to  worry  about  filtration  for  the  next  5-7  years  if  i  use  this.
   
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 Hi  Raghu,
 
 I  wouldn't  suggest  the  2213  for  two  reasons  probably.  The  2x1x1  tank  holds  about  54  litres  of  water,  with  decorations  and  some  substrate  even  much  less.  Why  would  you  want  a  2213  that  has  a  rated  tank  volume  of  250  lts  to  run  just  50  lts  that  too  with  an  output  of  440  l/h?
 
 Even  the  best  of  tanks  cost  about  a  few  hundred  bucks  for  that  size.  The  canister  filter  costs  upwards  of  3K.  Cost  factor=???
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