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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 Different  strokes  for  different  folks  to  be  sure.  Agree  with  Joy  but  no  harm  in  learning  the  ropes.  You  can  afford  to  make  small  mistakes  with  such  a  tank  and  prepare  yourself  for  more  difficult  plants  in  future  (i  am  sure  you  will  graduate  soon).  If  nothing  you  can  understand  how  co2  injection  makes  a  difference.  The  vals  will  start  pearling  and  throw  up  a  steady  stream  of  bubbles.  it's  a  lovely  sight.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 yaap..i  second  pradeep  ideas,  all  carbonated  bottled  cap  has  got  two  layers  .  the  one  inside  layer  is  the  the  flim  layer  which  is  meant  to  keep  them  air  tight  and  to  prevent  gas  leak  from  them.  it  will  be  wise  not  to  disturb.  and  so  dont  make  any  holes  on  the  cap  but  use  the  cap  as  it  is  and  make  a  small  hole  which  is  smaller  than  the  dia  of  a  STRIAGHT  AIR  LINE  CONNECTOR.  then  snug  it  through  the  hole,  u  can  use  M  seal  around  them.  
 thanks  pradeep  for  yur  ideas  on  previos  thread.
 
 actually  have  used  both  the  ways.  making  hole  on  cap  by  doing  so,  u  have  to  seal  around  the  cap  and  the  airline  connector.  also  between  cap  and  the  bottle  using  cellophone  tapes,  because  the  integrity  of  the  inside  layer  of  the  cap  is  no  more  maintained  leading  to  leaks..
 
 so  i  prefer  to  do  it  on  the  side  of  the  bottle  rather  on  the  cap
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 Hello  everyone,
 Thanks  a  lot  for  all  your  replies.  I  will  be  trying  out  the  M-seal  thing  today.  I  would  have  used  the  plastic  connector  but  i've  already  punched  a  bigger  hole  for  the  airline  and  i'm  running  short  of  plastic  caps  (and  bottles).  There  is  a  leak  somewhere  in  the  cap  because  i  can  see  the  reaction  taking  place  but  there  is  a  hissing  sound  near  the  cap.  If  Mseal  doesn't  work  then  i'm  trying  out  hole-in-bottle-side  or  the  plastic  connector  thing.  Let's  see  what  happens.  I'll  keep  you  posted.
 Anyway  thanks  for  all  the  help  and  ideas.
 I  can  see  a  steady  stream  of  bubbles  from  many  of  the  Vals  and  there  is  a  lot  of  runners  which  have  small  leaves  growing  on  them.
 MGR.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 Oops-
 Sorry  i  forgot  to  mention-regarding  the  fishes-  ilove  angels  but  i'm  not  sure  whether  they  will  be  suitable  in  a  tank  this  size.  Do  you  guys  think  4-6  angels  will  be  OK?  Otherwise,  i  will  go  in  for  livebearers.
 I  have  a  larger  (36"  by  18"  by  18")  tank  as  well-  but  that  is  not  a  planted  tank.  I  wanted  to  get  my  hands  set  on  the  smaller  one  before  I  thought  about  converting  the  bigger  one  into  a  planted  tank.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 Hi,  just  a  small  input  for  MGR.  Friend   couple  of  days  back  I  made  a  new  CO2  bottle  glued  with  M  Seal  (Commonly  used  for  plumbing  work,  and  easily  available  in  very  cheap  rate).  And  I  didn't  put  any  connector  through  the  cap.  Directly  I  have  inserted  the  pipe  into  the  bottle  through  the  cap.  But  getting  a  nice  result.  You  can  give  a  try  for  that.
 
 [img]http://khepu.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album04&id=DIY_CO2_001[/img]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 Hi,  just  a  small  input  for  MGR.  Friend   couple  of  days  back  I  made  a  new  CO2  bottle  glued  with  M  Seal  (Commonly  used  for  plumbing  work,  and  easily  available  in  very  cheap  rate).  And  I  didn't  put  any  connector  through  the  cap.  Directly  I  have  inserted  the  pipe  into  the  bottle  through  the  cap.  But  getting  a  nice  result.  You  can  give  a  try  for  that.
 
 [img]http://khepu.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album04&id=DIY_CO2_001[/img]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 If  you  are  not  going  to  have  a  reactor,  most  of  the  CO2  bubbles  that  gets  generated  using  the  DIY  method  is  going  to  get  dissipated.
 
 If  cost  is  not  a  big  factor  for  you,  one  other  alternative  is  to  use  CO2  tablets.  You  can  use  this  till  you  get  to  master  the  CO2  DIY
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 Hello  everyone,
 After  getting  to  the  verge  of  being  exasperated,  I  finally  thought  i'd  give  another  shot  at  making  the  diy-co2  work.  And  wonder  of  wonders,  it  did  start  working-within  15  minutes  of  mixing  up  a  new  batch  of  the  mix  and  connecting  it  up  to  the  airstone.  I  have  glued  the  joints  with  M-seal  as  many  of  you  suggested.  It  was  a  big  relief  to  see  the  bubbles  coming  out.  I'm  attaching  a  pic  of  the  setup.  I  plan  to  place  the  airstone  near  the  inlet  of  the  internal  power  filter  and  i've  turned  the  outlet  of  the  filter  around  so  that  it  faces  the  walls  of  the  aquarium  so  that  the  escaping  bubbles  are  sprayed  with  the  water.  I'll  be  doing  that  tomorrow  during  cleaning  time.
 Thanks  a  lot  guys  for  helping  me  in  the  initial  stages.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

 Isn't  the  first  sight  of  bubbles  the  most  elating  thing  that  has  happened  to  you  in  a  long  long  time?  I  felt  that  way  when  it  happened  to  my  project.  My  first  successful  DIY  project  in  life  was  my  daughter,  the  second  was  this  CO2  generating  bottle.  Smile.  Both  felt  equally  great  and  uplifting  for  the  spirit.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Fallen for the planted tank bug- but have a problem Reply with quote

                                                   
Bala_Kavi  wrote  (View  Post):                
If  you  are  not  going  to  have  a  reactor,  most  of  the  CO2  bubbles  that  gets  generated  using  the  DIY  method  is  going  to  get  dissipated.
 
 If  cost  is  not  a  big  factor  for  you,  one  other  alternative  is  to  use  CO2  tablets.  You  can  use  this  till  you  get  to  master  the  CO2  DIY
 
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 Bala...
 
   Co2  tabs  does  not  give  you  an  awsome  results...  I  have  tried  out  prodac's  Co2  tabs  in  the  past  there  i  feel  are  costly  and  not  worth  it....  I  suppose  instead  of  paying  so  much  i  will  as  well  go  with  the  pressurised  Co2  setup.
 
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 If  I  go  into  the  kitchen  again  looking  for  sugar,  my  wife  will  pound  me  to  death  and  therefore,  I've  decided  to  go  for  a  pressurised  Co2  setup.
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If  I  go  into  the  kitchen  again  looking  for  sugar,  my  wife  will  pound  me  to  death  and  therefore,  I've  decided  to  go  for  a  pressurised  Co2  setup.                

 
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