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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 Looks  good,  for  a  first  try.
 
 The  straight  line  cuts  are  unnatural,  that's  why  I  recommended  burning  the  Thermocoel  with  a  butane  torch.
 
 I  have  seen  the  finished  product  it's  stunning.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 looks  quite  nice!
 could  you  please  post  the  exact  specs  of  the  materials  used  along  with  prices?
 or  mebbe  a  pic?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 I  have  a  small  butane  torch  i  think  itz  butane  as  the  flame  is  slightly  greenish  blue  in  color  and  the  gas  is  over  in  it  i  guess...  and  it  has  a  small  gas  filling  indicator  at  the  bottom  and  my  digi-cam  is  not  working  properly...  will  post  a  pic  of  it  tommor.  
 
 If  i  can  fill  it,  nothing  like  it.
 
 Anyways,  i  have  resized  the  pic  and  here  it  is  once  again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 Madan,  It  was  not  to  my  satisfaction.  But  as  you  said,  good  enough  for  first  try.
 
 Planning  for  a  second  coat  with  Brown  ...  mostly  not  a  complete  coat  but  touch  and  go,  so  that  i  can  learn  painting!!!  ha  ha  ha
 
 Wanted  a  inset  so  cut  the  triangle  like  inset  on  the  left  side,  and  wanted  a  projection  and  that  formed  the  inverted  triangle...  but  only  when  i  reached  the  top  left  i  realized  how  to  trim  and  how  to  cut!!!  ha  ha  ha...  so  mostly  planning  to  do  another  one  tommorow  more  of  only  rock  patterns  similar  to  those  in  cichlid-forum  DIY's!!!...  
 
 Aditya,  it  is  Thermacol  -  and  got  hold  of  a  manufacturer  here  in  Chennai...  went  scouting  in  factory  and  finally  located  this  4"  thick  1m  X  2'  sheet  and  a  few  more  1mX1m  sheet.  This  is  not  exactly  the  same  thermacol  sheets  of  10mm/20mm  available  in  the  market.  This  sheet  has  got  smaller  grains  and  more  densly  packed.  And  they  said  there  is  no  general  spec  for  it  -  you  just  need  to  ask  for  "thermacol,  smaller  grains  densly  packed".  Thatz  the  spec  for  the  product  used.
 
 The  Paint  i  used  :  Cico  Damp  Coat  with  Black  Colr  (Asian  Paints  Universal  Stainer).  the  first  coat  consumed  about  1  1/2  kg  pack  of  damp  coat  and  1/2  of  the  pack  of  the  stainer  color.
 
 I  haven't  posted  the  pics  of  the  rear  of  the  background..  planning  to  set  filter  and  media  in  it...  will  do  shortly  once  my  digicam  is  working.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 PK,
 Let  me  first  compliment  you  on  a  very  good  looking  first  trial!
 I  surely  agree  with  madan  on  the  burning  rather  than  cutting  of  the  edges  so  that  it  looks  more  natural  and  gives  you  a  good  texture  also.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 Madan  and  Aqua  thanks  again.
 
 Madan,  no  where  here  i  can  find  your  butane  torch,  but,  i  found  a  similar  torch  to  that  of  a  butane  torch  and  it  is  used  by  A/c  mechanics  and  its  got  an  LPG  Gas  can  as  that  of  a  500ml  bottle  attached  to  the  burner  and  the  flame  can  be  controlled  by  adjusting  the  force  using  a  controller  in  the  burner...  hope  you  have  seen  or  used  such  a  device.  The  device  is  totally  portable  and  kinnda  nice  to  use  too.
 
 Will  be  using  it  today  to  burn  another  thermacol  and  shape  it...  lemme  hope  it  turns  out  well..
 
 will  give  the  feedback  soon.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 I  have  found  the  butane  like  blow  torch...  i  have  attached  the  images  ...  kindly  check  it  out  and  lemme  know  whether  is  it  the  same?
 
 Tried  using  it  on  the  thermacol  and  it  worked  pretty  welll  and  since  i  can  adjust  the  torch  intensity  it  is  pretty  useful..  but  i  think  i  need  to  burn  a  few  4'  thermacols  to  learn  the  technique!!!  ha  ha  ha
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 Hey  PK  you  have  struck  Gold!
 
 I  wanted  something  exactly  like  this  for  a  lot  of  my  work,  where  did  you  get  this,  this  will  really  help  in  some  of  the  jobs  I  plan  to  do.
 
 The  small  one  that  I  have  runs  out  of  gas  quickly  as  it  stores  only  about  20  ml  of  lighter  fluid.
 
 You  are  Da  Maan!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 Boss,  went  per  your  advice...  just  that  i  found  somethin  similar  ...  it  helps  being  in  the  construction  industry  u  know!!!  ha  ha  ha
 
 Its  used  by  A/c  Mechanics  ...  and  u  can  get  it  any  Air-conditioner  Spare  Parts  shop.
 
 They  call  it  the  "blow  torch  gun"...   they  dont  know  anything  else  about  it!!!.  Got  the  info  from  my  A/c  mechanic.
 
 The  Cylinder  should  last  for  atleast  1hr  of  continuous  use  at  max  flame  and  its  replacement  is  cheap.  Its  a  200ml  can  and  replacement  is  available  easily.
 
 If  you  want,  i  can  get  it  and  send  it  there...  
 
 lemme  know
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 PK  thanks  for  the  offer.  I'll  check  out  A/C  supply  stores  in  Bangalore.  In  case  I  cannot  get  it  I'll  be  in  touch.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 lemme  know,  Anytime  for  u.  
 
 Will  burn  my  first  thermacol  and  see..!!!  and  gonna  do  one  more  4'  tommorow.
 let  god  gimme  god  creative  mind  to  do  somethin  unique.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 i  hope  you  are  done  with  your  diy.  If  you  still  are  lack  if  creativity,  i'd  say  get  a  kid  n  let  him  slash  thru  the  thermocoal  for  a  while.  once  he  is  through,  smoothen  the  edges  and  clear  the  pieces.  am  sure  you  would  have  a  random  design  custom  background.  i  feel  that  in  such  stuff  as  background,  randomness  provides  a  more  natural  effect.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 plannin  to  go  thro  with  drill  bits  to  get  uneven  surfaces...  done  with  my  4'  background...  2nd  painting  remaining
 
 doin  another  2'  to  get  the  feel  of  backgrounds.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 I  had  another  3'  peice  lying  with  me  and  i  tried  to  do  the  2nd  attempt  on  that...  with  the  new  devices  that  i  have  now...
 
 Here  are  the  pictures  from  start  to  end...  and  the  final  product  before  painting  and  finishing.
 
 There  are  quite  a  few  caves  under  the  rocks...was  able  to  depen  the  caves  with  the  help  of  the  torch..  but  the  torch  also  widened  the  gap  between  the  rocks  giving  it  a  track  like  feelin..  but  still  need  to  develop  the  art  of  using  the  torch  now.
 
 The  Rocks  are  at  different  levels..  the  depth  is  not  so  visible  in  the  pics  but  the  top  portion  is  max  projected  to  give  a  shadow  and  also  depth.  the  bottom  portion  is  3"  deep  and  top  portion  is  abt  1/4"  deep.
 
 Lemme  know  what  you  all  think...  any  suggestion  are  really  welcome.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Background Reply with quote

 finally  to  blow  away  the  hanging  peices  and  using  the  blow  torch  to  get  the  final  product  for  painting.
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