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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: Life after pressurised Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 My  pressurised  co2  set  up  has  been  up  and  running  for  a  week  now.  about  1-2  bubbles  per  second  during  the  day  diffused  through  a  red  sea  co2  reactor.  (this  is  extremely  effective  I  think  as  I  can  see  hardly  any  co2  bubbles  in  the  aquarium  water.)
 
 MY  tank  size  is  48  inch  X  21  X  21.  Light  is  36  watt  X  4  +  144  watt,  PLL.  All  are  6500  K.
 
 Dosing  is  EI  method,  though  I  havent  started  adding  phosphates  yet.
 
 My  questions:
 
 1)  I  see  pearling  only  after  7  hours  of  lighting?  Is  this  ok  or  should  i  be  seeing  pearling  much  earlier?
 
 2)  PLant  growth  is  yet  to  take  off  after  switch  to  pressurised  co2.  Growth  is  only  slightly  better  then  before.  Am  I  doing  anything  wrong  or  should  I  wait  longer  for  the  results  to  come  in?
 
 3)  My  HC  Cuba  is  just  sitting  there.  It  is  not  melting,  but  it  is  not  growing  either.  Almost  75%  is  covered  with  brown  algae.  What  can  I  do  to  get  it  to  grow?
 
 4)  There  is  some  kind  of  green  spot  algae  on  the  elaves  of  most  stem  plants  (in  the  top  of  the  tank  where  there  is  more  light).  Is  this  bad?  How  do  I  fix  this?
 
 5)  My  brown  algae  has  reduced,  but  is  yet  to  go  away  fully?  COuld  light  be  the  limiting  factor?  Do  I  need  to  add  more  light?  (Filtration  is  through  Eheim  2217  (installed  2  weeks  ago.)  and  the  reactor  also  helps  circulation  (rated  speed  is  50  gallons  per  hour)
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Life after pressurised Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Light  is  36  watt  X  4  +  144  watt,  PLL.  All  are  6500  K.
 Dosing  is  EI  method,  though  I  havent  started  adding  phosphates  yet.
                 

 
 Anand,
 Do  you  mean  you  have  288W  of  light  ?  f
 Also,
 Can  you  also  tell  us  your  dosing  qty  and  schedule  ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Life after pressurised Reply with quote

 SORRY  FOR  THE  TYPO..  IT  IS  ONLY  144  WATT
 
 
                                                 
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 Light  is  36  watt  X  4  +  144  watt,  PLL                

 
 I  had  meant  36  watt  X  4  =  144  watt
 
 Dosing:
 
 3/4  th  of  a  teaspoon  of  k2so4  3  times  a  week
 POtassium  Nitrate  3/4  th  of  a  teaspoon  3  times  a  week
 No  phosphate  addition  yet
 
 Microsol  B  -  10  ml  every  day  after  light  off.
 WC  -  60%  every  week
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Life after pressurised Reply with quote

 I  think  its  a  gradual  process...
 
 I  have  gone  pressurised  almost  1  month  back....the  growth  is  picking  up  now,  but  I  think  it  will  take  atleast  2  more  months  for  my  plants  to  get  accustomed  to  the  new  settings...
 
 Is  your  set  up  established  or  is  it  a  newly  done  tank?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Life after pressurised Reply with quote

 Anand,
 I  think  your  macros  dosing  is  not  enough.
 My  tank  dimensions  and  lighting  was  exactly  as  yours  and  this  is  what  I  used  to  dose.
 
 3/4th  Tsp  of  Kno3,1/4th  Tsp  of  K2So4,and  about  3/16th  Tsp  of  kh2Po4  on  alternate  days  starting  on  a  sunday  after  water  change.
 One  cap  full   (of  500  ml  pepsi  bottle)  of  Microsol-  B  on  alternate  days  starting  on   monday.
 Later,  on  advise  of  venkat(vkv)  I  started  to  dose  Microsol-B  every  day.
 
 Plant  growth  and  health  was  good  except  in  the  areas  where  the  light  was  not  enough  but  I  didnt  have  algae  problems  whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Life after pressurised Reply with quote

 It  is  an  established  tank  that  has  been  running  for  over  3  months  in  its  current  form...
 
 
 Will  appreciate  answers  for  the  specific  questions  please...
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Life after pressurised Reply with quote

 Rohan,
 
 Except  for  the  kh2Po4,  I  am  dosing  everything  else  as  much  as  you  or  more  than  you!
 
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 I  am  sorry.  I  thought  I  read  that  you  dose  the  macros  once  a  week.
 Sorry  about  that.
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 Magnessium  phosphate  is  better  to  be  avoided.  Correct  me  if  I  am  wrong.
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 no  probs  rohan....any  other  tips?
 
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 i  think  mr.madan  sir  suggested  somewhere  in  a  post  to  dose  1  ml  of  microsol  per  day  ....
 and  it  seems  you  are  dosing  10  ml  ...any  drastic  effects  or  wastage  of  the  dosage?  Sad
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 Natbox...I  think  that  was  for  a  low  tech  set  up....in  another  post,  madan  has  also  mentioned  that  he  goes  up  to  15  ml,  if  I  remember  correctly...
 
 And  the  EI  method  recommends  1/4  teaspoon...
 
 So  far,  i  have  not  seen  any  adverse  effects  attibutable  to  micros...on  the  contrary  I  increased  dosage  recently  after  seeing  symptoms  of  some  deficiencies..
 
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 3)  My  HC  Cuba  is  just  sitting  there.  It  is  not  melting,  but  it  is  not  growing  either.  Almost  75%  is  covered  with  brown  algae.  What  can  I  do  to  get  it  to  grow?
                 

 
 I  have  a  feeling  the  light  is  on  the  lesser  side  for  cuba.  It  comes  to  approx  2  watts/gallon  and  cuba  atleast  in  the  initial  stages  needs  3.5w/g  in  my  experience.
 
 I  had  bought  cuba  and  tried  growing  it  in  a  plaxtic  box  first  before  setting  a  tank.  Used  an  enriched  substrate  and  kept  it  under  strong  light.  Even  then  it  was  slow  to  throw  runners  and  now  about  95%  of  the  box  is  filled  from  the  initial  25%.  But  mine  too  has  some  brown  algae  on  it  in  some  spots.
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 Pree,
 
 Had  you  grown  the  Cuba  emersed  (without  water)  or  submerged  (plastic  box  filled  with  water)?
 
 How  much  time  did  it  take  to  go  from  25%  to  95%....would  love  to  see  some  pics,  if  possible?
 
 I  may  be  low  on  light,  but  because  I  have  pressurised  Co2  and  ample  nutrients,  I  guess  I  can  expect  to  see  some  growth,  atleast....?
 
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 the  1  ml  dosage  mr.madan  sir  recommended  was  for  a  tank  with  around  80%  planted  area......
 would  like  madan  sir  to  clarify  on  this  matter  of  dosage!  Smile
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