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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 Hi  guys,  after  seeing  all  the  various  planted  tanks,  i  wanted  to  try  my  hand  with  carpet  plants.  So  I  placed  order  through  a  lfs  here  for  hair  grass,  and  vallisneria  for  background.  The  dealer  provided  hair  grass  and,  japanese  rush  as  he  didnt  have  vallisneria.  Its  been  about  two  weeks  now,  and  the  japanese  rush  has  put  out  new  leaves.  But  not  so  with  the  hair  grass.  Instead  it  appears  to  be  yellowing.  So  I  wish  to  ask  for  guidance  on  whether  this  is  to  be  initially  expected  and  if  I  need  to  cater  additionally  for  this  plant.  Pics  posted  below  for  reference.
 
 Tank  info:  
 ht:  1.5ft  with  water  level  about  2  to  2.5  inches  from  top.
 Lighting:  20W  spiral  philips  CFL  -  2
 Other  plants  in  tank:  Japanese  rush,  cabomba,  hygrophilla
 All  these  other  plants  have  very  good  fresh  green  shoots/  leaves.
 
 As  seen  in  the  pics,  one  set  is  in  sand  base  and  the  other  tuft  is  directly  placed  in  the  gravel.  Thought  I'd  kind  of  experiement  to  see  which  one  works  out  better  and  use  that  substrate  to  propagate  for  the  rest  of  the  carpet.  The  blyxa  is  in  sand  base.  The  other  plants  are  directly  placed  in  the  gravel  and  they  have  rooted  well.
 
 Thanks  for  the  help!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 I  guess  those  plants  are  Echinodorus  Tennelus  not  Blyxa  or  Hair  Grass.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

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 Are  you  sure  that  this  is  hairgrass?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 Johnny
 
 First  of  all  the  sizes  of  the  gravels  you  selected  for  your  tank  are  not  suitable  for  any  carpet  plant.  Moreover  these  gravels  appears  to  be  marble  or  calcium  enriched.  You  will  not  get  good  results  with  these.
 
 Secondly,  DJ  is  correct,  these  plants  are  neither  hair  grass  nor  blyxas.
 
 Also  please  provide  other  informations  such  as  fertilisation  regime  and  total  tank  volume.  How  old  is  you  tank?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 A  bit  different  type  of  Echinodorus  Tennelus  .  I  had  this  before.  A  very  low  demanding  and  medium  light  tank.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 Hi  Johny,
 
 I  would  request  you  to  post  a  full  tank  picture  so  we  can  help  you  further  in  better  ways!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 Hi  guys,  thanks  for  the  response.
 
 Yeah,  this  is  not  blyxa.  The  blyxa,  or  atleast  the  one  that  I  have  as  blyxa  has  leaves  that  are  about  30cm  long  and  about  1cm  broad.  Its  a  tuft  of  leaves  starting  at  the  base.  I  think  the  stem  was  very  small  or  not  present.  Not  sure  as  I  didnt  observe  it  in  much  detail.  It  is  not  visible  above  the  sand  anyway  after  I  planted  it.  :-)
 
 And,  sorry  about  the  hair  grass  part.  I  had  asked  the  dealer  for  grass  for  carpeting,  specifying  hair  grass  as  my  choice.  He  asked  for  my  expertise  in  planted  tanks  and  recommended  that  I  take  echinodorus  instead.  Guess  since  hair  grass  was  my  initial  choice,  that  name  is  still  stuck  in  my  head  for  this  grass  also.  Only  when  I  saw  your  replies,  I  recalled  the  other  name.  My  apologies  for  the  confusion.  :D
 
 The  second  pic  in  post  (close_up_1)  is  the  "experiment"  part  for  gravel.  The  first  pic  (close_up_2),  in  that,  the  grass  is  placed  in  soil.  The  soil  is  taken  from  a  special  section  of  my  garden  regularly  enriched  with  water  from  my  goldfish  cement  tank.
 
 My  objective  is  to  have  a  completely  lowtech  tank.  Given  my  work  profile,  I  have  been  travelling  on  assignment  lately  and  I  am  expecting  to  travel  some  more,  atleast  for  this  year.  So  I  want  to  keep  the  maintenance  part  to  a  minimum  (meaning  not  any  more  complex  than  changing  water  and  feeding  fish  etc)  so  that  my  family  can  also  handle  it  when  I  am  not  available.  The  entire  current  set  up  is  made  with  this  target  in  mind.  And  I  am  extending  the  same  to  the  plants  also.  I  will  post  the  full  tank  photo  in  evening  once  I  reach  home.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 The  gravel  is  too  big  for  a  planted  tank.
 Also  the  crown  of  plants(place  where  leaves  start)  seem  to  be  buried  in  gravel.
 Just  pull  them  up  a  bit,  most  plants  when  placed  in  aquarium  shed  old  leaves,  and  new  leaves  come  out.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 Hi  guys,  the  pics  of  the  tank  as  requested.
 
 Tank  dimension:  L  x  B  x  H  :  2.5'  x  1'  x  1.5'
 
 <u>Photo  1:</u>
 This  is  the  tank  as  it  was  in  early  december.
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/gallery2/v/User_Galleries/johnny/IMG_2864.JPG.html
 
 part  planted,  part  plastic.  The  cabomba  in  the  white  tray  have  gravel  base,  and  the  cabomba  in  the  transparent  tray  have  soil  base.
 
 <u>Photo  2:</u>
 The  tank  as  of  today.
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/gallery2/v/User_Galleries/johnny/IMG_3402.JPG.html
 
 After  almost  a  month  of  laziness/  carelessness,  the  cabombas  grew  too  long  and  spread  out  on  the  water  surface,  thinning  out  in  the  lower  part  of  the  tank.  And  also  algal  growth.  So  did  some  heavy  trimming  this  weekend.  The  cabomba  and  hygrophilla(?)  are  directly  placed  in  gravel.  A  couple  of  the  cabomba  in  the  pic  now  have  leaves  with  a  radius  of  about  an  inch  from  stem  to  leaf  tip.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with Hair Grass Reply with quote

 and  also,  covered  up  the  mud  plate  with  a  layer  of  gravel  today  evening  as  the  fish  picking  at  the  leaves  was  causing  them  to  uproot  and  float.  On  the  bright  side,  the  uprooted  plants  had  new  white  roots.  So  guess  I  needn't  worry  to  much,  at  least  for  the  ones  in  the  mud  plate  anyway.   Very Happy
 So  back  to  the  post,  I  guess  the  main  issue  pointed  out  is  that  the  gravel  substrate  I  am  using  is  not  suitable  for  plants.  I  will  set  up  a  tray  with  soil  for  the  grass.  Would  be  glad  to  receive  tips  on  propagating  them  quickly  enough  to  carpet  the  entire  floor  soon.  All  the  fish  in  my  tank  love  the  grass  carpet  that  is  already  there.  The  white  tray  is  practically  owned  by  my  fighter  who  loves  to  sleep  among  the  plants.  Kind  of  inspiring  to  try  and  spread  em  more  in  the  tank.   Smile
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 Hair  grass.  An  before  and  after  planting  it  photo  and  the  right  soil  for  it.  Thumb Up  
 
 
 My  foot  long  nano.  Smile
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 Thanks  for  the  pic  sir.  The  plants  look  wonderful.  This  is  the  look  I  imagined  in  mind  when  I  made  the  order  for  the  grass.
 Once  I  get  the  current  grass  settled,  should  def  try  for  this  next.  I  think  my  fighter  would  love  this  even  better.  Smile
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