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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: Dead Fish....Why! Reply with quote

 Hi  Guys
 
 This  little  koi  about  4  inches  died  today  morning.  It  was  turning  sideways  and  rolling  for  some  time.  The  eyeball  was  as  though  it  was  going  to  pop  out  and  its  mouth  was  fully  open  for  a  long  time  before  it  died.  It  was  breathing  heavily.
 
 I  have  a  17000  l  Pond!
 
 I  took  this  shot  after  a  while  and  there  are  some  ants  in  the  tails  area...please  do  not  mistake  for  parasites
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Dead Fish....Why! Reply with quote

 It  looks  bloated,  might  be  swim  bladder  disease  ?  Did  it  look  like  it  was  having  trouble  swimming/balancing  for  a  while  before  it  died  ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Dead Fish....Why! Reply with quote

 I  agree  the  fish  sure  looks  bloated.  Could  have  been  a  Swim-Bladder  problem  (if  it  had  trouble  swimming,  as  Mortis  has  adviced)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Dead Fish....Why! Reply with quote

 17000  pond  is  fine.
 
 Do  you  have  any  filtration?  aeration?  water  changes?  fish  population?
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 When  fish  have  clouded  eyes  or  pop  eyes  it  usually  means  bad  water  quality.  how  are  you  taking  care  of  the  filtration  in  such  a  big  pond?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Dead Fish....Why! Reply with quote

 Hu
 
 Thanks  for  your  comments.  I  have  been  recently  giving  treatement  for  fish  lice  from  a  local  fish  expert  and  after  that  immediately  i  had  gone  for  a  bacterial  treatment  for  secondary  infections.  Just  finished  the  treatement  2  days  ago  and  the  water  level  i  have  inside  the  pond  is  approx  5000  litres  as  i  had  to  reduce  to  decrease  medicine  load.  I  am  running  a  temporary  filtration  and  aeration  for  this  treatement  period.
 
 Water  quality  is  ok  but  there  is  alot  of  algae....else  everything  is  normal.
 
 I  have  a  couple  of  other  fishes  with  the  same  kind  of  shape.  Thought  they  females  were  like  that...plumpy.Do  you  think  its  wise  to  post  their  photos.  They  are  normal  and  running  fine.
 
 And  this  fish  which  died  was  lying  on  the  floor  and  often  it  will  flip  and  roll  sideways  at  least  for  an  hour  or  more  before  it  left.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Dead Fish....Why! Reply with quote

 Hmmm  quite  possibly  swim  bladder  disease.  What  are  you  feeding  them  ?
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 Your  main  problem  is  water  quality.  Just  because  your  water  looks  crystal  clear  does  not  mean  a  thing.  
 You  yourself  have  been  admitted  having  fish  lice  and  fungus  on  your  pond  fish.
 
 Read  my  short  article  below.  
 
 Winter  care  for  fish  in  Ornamental  Ponds
   

 
 Fish  are  introduced  in  a  pond  to  create  harmony.  Introducing  the  right  number  is  very  important.  A  simple  calculation  is  to  allow  two  inches  of  fish  for  every  square  foot  of  surface  area  in  your  pond.  A  maximum  of  six  inches  length  of  fish  for  a  square  foot  of  surface  area  can  be  achieved  eventually.  This  allows  for  development,  growth  and  breeding.  The  calculation  of  length  of  fish  is  based  on  the  distance  from  the  nose  to  tail.
 
 People  new  to  the  hobby  should  buy  smaller  fish  and  go  in  for  less  expensive  breeds.
 
 You  can  have  many  small  fish,  or  a  few  large  fish  or  a  moderate  number  of  both.  Overstocking  your  pond  is  a  sure  recipe  for  failure.  
 

 Hypothermia  in  Fish.  It  is  the  condition  of  the  water  being  too  cold  due  to  the  absence
 
 of  a  water  heater.  This  is  common  in  winter  months.
 
 Fish  suffering  from  hypothermia  appear  slow  and  do  not  take  food.  Hypothermia  causes  changes  in  the  fish  metabolism  and  the  immune  system  of  the  fish   
 
 Nearly  everyone  can  notice  changes  in  a  fish  action  or  looks  that  indicate  that  it  is  ill.  A  sick  fish  will  move  slowly  and  will  come  up  and  gasp  for  air.  Its  fins  get  clamped  to  its  sides.  The  fish  could  develop  red  veins  and  the  dorsal  fin  could  look  droopy.  
 
 The  water  temperature  should  be  checked.  The  levels  of  ammonia  and  the  pH  should  be  regularly  checked  as  these  could  indicate  whether  it  is  stressing  the  fish.  
 
 The  correction  of  water  quality  could  improve  the  condition  of  your  fish.  
 
 Fish  diseases:
 
 Anchor  worm:  This  is  a  tube  like  parasite.  It  attaches  it  self  with  its  hooked  head  under  the  fish  gills.  The  anchor  worm  can  be  removed  with  a  pair  of  tweezers  while  the  fishes  are  held  by  hand.
 
 The  wound  should  be  disinfected  with  an  anti  septic  or  iodine.  
 
 Fin  rot  or  body  rot:  A  common  and  very  unpleasant  disease  caused  by  bacteria.  It  generally  starts  with  the  dorsal  fin  and  if  left  unattended  it  spreads  to  the  other  fins  and  tail.  The  affected  fish  should  be  placed  in  one  part  of  malachite  green  and  nine  parts  of  water  for  not  more  than  a  minute.  If  the  infection  has  spread  from  the  fins  to  the  body  there  is  no  hope  and  the  fish  should  be  destroyed.   
 
 Flukes:  Gill  flukes  and  skin  flukes  are  microscopic  parasitic  flat  worms.  When  they  prey  on  fishes  you  see  excess  mucus  and  puffy  patches.  The  fish  have  a  loss  of  color.  The  fish  get  irritated  banging  themselves  to  the  sides  and  to  any  objects.  They  have  rapid  opening  and  closing  of  the  mouth  and  twitching  of  fins.
 
 Cure  for  this  is  a  salt  bath.  
 
 The  fish  leech:  The  leech  has  a  body  consisting  of  numerous  sacs,  which  it  fills  with  blood  sucked  from  its  victims.  One  gorging  with  blood  sucked  out  can  last  the  leech  a  very  long  time.
 
 The  leech  attaches  itself  to  the  body  of  the  fish.  This  causes  the  fish  to  become  less  active.  Soon  other  leeches  get  attached.  Salt  dabbed  on  the  leech  will  cause  it  to  release  itself  from  the  fish  body.  Pulling  the  leech  will  cause  considerable  damage  to  the  fish.  For  treatment  immerse  the  fish  in  a  solution  of  malachite  green.  
   
 
 Fungus:  When  fish  are  stressed  they  lose  their  protective  mucus  coating  and  become  susceptible  to  fungi.  The  fish  now  sprouts  cottony  growth.  Use  a  fungicide.  
   
 
 Lice:  These  tiny  creatures  have  clearly  visible  legs  and  eyespots.
 
 The  lice  attach  themselves  to  the  gills  and  fins  of  fish  and  damage  the  tissue  that  can  sometimes  prove  fatal.
 
 The  lice  can  be  removed  with  tweezers.  
 
 Tuberculosis:  This  is  a  highly  contagious  disease  witch  causes  rapid  weight  loss.  The  fish  will  lose  color  and  get  swollen  patches.  The  fins  will  fade  away.
 
 There  is  not  much  anyone  can  do.
 
 Separate  the  fish  as  soon  as  you  can  to  prevent  its  spread.  
 
 Ulcers:  Bacteria  causes  the  stressed  fish  to  develop  ulcers,  popped  eye,  bloody  patches  and  ragged  looking  fins.
 
 Water  should  be  tested  to  see  what  is  stressing  the  fishes.  The  fish  should  be  treated  with  an  anti  biotic.     
   
 
 White  spot:  This  disease  is  called  “ichthyopthiriasis”  or  “ich”  for  short  will  have  spots  like  grains  of  salt.  This  will  be  all  over  the  fish  body  and  because  they  itch  the  fish  will  rub  themselves  against  objects  and  the  sides  of  the  water  body.  
 
 Loss  of  balance:  A  fish  will  lose  its  balance  and  swim  upside  down  or  with  its  nose  pointing  down  wards.  This  is  a  disorder,  which  is  associated  with  the  swim  bladder.  It  is  a  derangement  of  the  swim  bladder  or  balancing  mechanism.
 

 The  fish  should  be  insolated  and  kept  in  a  stable  temperature.  Some  cases  unfortunately  cannot  be  treated.  
   Covering  the  pond:  Protective  netting  and  fencing  is  essential  especially  if  you  see  birds  and  animas  lurking  around.  Installing  a  net  over  the  pond  will  also  keep  falling  leaves  that  decay  and  pollute  the  water.
 Predators  can  easily  find  your  fish.  You  should  create  hiding  places  for  them.  Overhangs,  terra  cotta  tiles  and  drain  pipes  should  be  weighed  down  and  arranged  so  that  the  fish  can  take  refuge  in  times  of  danger.
   
 
 Feeding  the  Fish:  During  winter  the  fish  uses  up  far  less  food.  They  become  less  active  and  reduce  their  food  intake.  They  can  to  an  extent  survive  with  the  fat  they  have  stored.  They  use  these  resources  slowly  because  during  winter  their  metabolism  slows  down.  
   
 
 Some  solutions  to  common  problems  in  ponds.  
 
 Pond  water  stays  green  –  Remove  leaves  and  debris  from  bottom.  More  floating  plants  and  oxygenating  plants  should  be  added.  
 
 Fish  gasping  at  the  surface  –  Add  more  fresh  water  with  a  water  change.  Use  more  aeration  with  the  help  of  a  aerator.  
 
 Frantic  swimming  by  fish  –  This  is  normal  breeding  behavior  during  summer.  During  winter  check  for  disease.   
 
 Disappearance  of  fish  –  The  fish  could  be  taken  by  predators  like  Kingfishers,  cats  or  snakes.
 
 Level  of  water  drops  after  filling  –A  leak  is  possible.  
 
 Water  smells  and  turns  black  –  Add  more  submerged  plants.  Aerate  water.  This  is  the  result  of  low  oxygen.  
 
 Lotus  does  not  bloom  –  The  climate  too  cold.  
 
 Water  lilies  do  not  bloom  –  Not  enough  sunlight.  
 
 Water  plants  are  part  of  a  beautiful  garden  pond.  They  are  important  for  biological  balance  and  give  the  pond  a  face.
 
 A  pump  is  also  very  important.  It  brings  movement  to  water.  It  gives  water  its  life.  Water  moves,  flows,  bubbles,  splashes  and  dances.  It  gently  vibrates  the  soul,  pleases  the  eye  and  enchants  the  ear.
 
 Moving  water  is  refreshing  and  a  great  rejuvenator.  
 
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 yes,probably  a  bladder  disease..as  far  as  the  algae  goes,fish  feed  on  them.so  no  need  to  worry  about  that..how  frequently  do  you  make  water  changes?  and  what  are  you  feeding  them..
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 I  am  feeding  think  4mm  pelletes  Taiyo  make...and  i  am  talking  about  a  pea  soup  pond  filled  with  algae
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