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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:48 am Post subject: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 By  looking  at  the  posts  in  this  forum  my  craving  of  keeping  discus  have  again  re-ignited.
 I  would  ask  the  Veterans  to  please  provide/pass  me  information  such  as  tank  size,  maintenance,  feeding  etc  so  that  this  novice   Clapping  can  successfully  start  keeping  discus.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Answers  to  your  questions  depends  a  lot  on  your  requirements.
 Here  are  my  counter  questions.
 1.  How  many  discus  you  want  to  keep?
 2.  In  what  size  you  prefer  to  have  them?
 
 Per  my  experience,  I  suggest  a  newbie  to  start  with  at  least  3/3.5"  size  as  the  mortality  is  less  in  this  size.
 As  for  equipments  they  need,  sponge  filter,  heater  -  they  are  not  fussy  about  equipments  you  see.
 
 I  prefer  to  have  the  tank  as  bare-bottom  so  that  it  becomes  easy  for  siphoning  and  water  changes.  The  more  you  can  arrange  for  water  changes,  more  they  will  grow.  the  growth  also  depends  on  the  genes.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Tank  size:  Atleast  4  footer.  Bigger  is  best.
 Maintenance:  Keep  an  eye  on  water  change.  Some  guys  change  upto  90%  water  daily.  I  changes  60-70%  water  twice  a  week.
 Feeding:  You  can  go  Tetra  bits,  Hikari  biogold,  beef  heart  etc.  but  I  am  offering  only  Tetra  bits  and  hikar  bio  gold,  three  times  per  day.  The  growth  is  amazing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Hi  Adesh,  below  are  the  answers,
 I  just  want  to  start  with  3-4  discus  only,  and  size  I  have  no  idea  you  said  3-3.5  thats  I  would  ask  for.
 And  regarding  ph,  temperature  what  it  should  be?
 
 @Rajiv,  thanks  for  sharing  the  valuable  information  I  would  surely  do  that.
 
 Which  are  the  discus  to  start  with?   Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Adesh,  below  are  the  answers,
 I  just  want  to  start  with  3-4  discus  only,  and  size  I  have  no  idea  you  said  3-3.5  thats  I  would  ask  for.
 And  regarding  ph,  temperature  what  it  should  be?
 
 @Rajiv,  thanks  for  sharing  the  valuable  information  I  would  surely  do  that.
 
 Which  are  the  discus  to  start  with?   Smile                

 
 Temperature  should  be  26-30.  
 pH-  5.0  to  7.0
 Link  for  your  help  http://www.aqua-fish.net/show.php?h=discusfish
 http://badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile14.html
 
 I  have  started  with  a  single  pair  of  blue  turquoise  and  now  I  have  8  discus.  In  future  I  will  add  some  blue  diamonds.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 I  started  keeping  Discus  exactly  a  month  back  with  2  Blue  Diamond  Discus  and  then  immediately  the  next  couple  of  days  added  4  more  blue  diamond  discus.  6  in  total.  My  tanks  is  90  gallons,  5  footer  and  heavily  planted.  Not  much  bio  load,  another  6  Denisonii  barbs.  I  do  not  think  they  are  difficult  fish  to  keep  if  you  do  regular  water  changes.  50%  twice  a  week  should  be  OK  or  you  can  make  that  3  times  a  week.  Any  discus  from  a  good  source  should  be  OK.  You  can  choose  the  colours  that  excite  you  the  most.  Super  red  melons  in  a  planted  setup  would  look  great.  Thumb Up  
 
 pH,  KH,  temperatures  are  all  that  are  independent  and  beyond  our  control.  Normal  water  anywhere  in  India  would  be  6.5-7.5  pH,  KH  anywhere  between  4-8  (Goa  water  is  1  KH),  and  all  of  us  know  the  huge  temperature  fluctuations  between  the  seasons  in  India.  Cold  in  Delhi  would  require  a  heater  and  summers  would  need  ice  or  a  chiller.  Temperatue  is  something  that  you  need  to  monitor  and  check.  Except  that,  else  should  be  OK.
 
 For  food  discus  prefer  animal  heart  meat.  Beef  heart  more  in  particular.  I  use  a  homemade  recipe  of  Goat  heart,  prawns,  fish  meat,  garlic,  multivitamin  tablets,  flake  food  and  freeze  dried  bloodworms.  Mix  everything  in  a  mixer  grinder  and  keep  the  paste  in  self  locking  plastic  bags  inside  the  freezer.  Break  up  small  pcs  every  day  and  feed  from  my  hand  as  the  food  crumbles  in  my  hand.  The  fish  love  it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 most  of  your  queries  are  answered.  To  start  a  discus  tank  it  is  better  to  start  with  at  least  6  of  them.
 Don't  worry  on  KH/PH  parameters  they  are  needed  to  be  observed/calibrated  while  breeding  them.
 
 Have  daily  50%  WC  with  regular  sponge  filter  cleaning  and  temperature  to  29/30  C.  
 
 For  food,  people  have  different  opinions  and  choices.  Animal  heart  is  fed  to  them  as  it  has  high  protein  contents  but  it  has  another  disadvantage  of  having  flagellates  and  needs  periodic  de-worming.
 Another  choice  to  have  dry  food  is  to  feed  them  discus  bio  gold,  tetrabits  or  sera  discus  food.  They  need  to  be  soaked  in  water  before  feeding  them  to  discus.
 
 All  d  best  and  happy  discus  keeping.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Hi  Adesh,
 Sorry  for  interuppting  the  thread  but  was  really  curious  about  your  comments  about  the  presence  of  flagellates  in  animal  heart.Could  you  please  elaborate  since  I  have  been  suspecting  some  flagellate  presence  in  my  tank?Can  animal  heart  frozen  for  a  week  or  more  harbour  such  organisms?
 Coldfear,
 Welcome  to  the  amazing  kingdom  of  Discus  King!!!  Thumb Up  
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Hi  Adesh,
 
 Your  avatar  has  a  yellow  discus  with  black  fin  edges.  Now,  honestly  do  you  actually  get  to  buy  yellow  discus  or  is  it  a  photoshopped  image.  And  if  you  do  get  yellow  discus,  that  would  be  something.  Now  gurus,  tell  me  whether  the  yellow  variety/colour  morph  is  available  and  if  so  where  can  i  get  them  in  india.  Now  that  colour  would  be  amazing  in  a  planted  tank  with  green  plants.   Cheering   Cheering   Cheering   Cheering   Cheering   Cheering   Cheering   Cheering   Cheering
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Swarendu,  I  do  not  know  till  when  we  can  keep  animal  heart  mix  and  keep  feeding  to  discus.  However,  I  make  sure  to  prepare  the  mix  which  can  be  sufficient  to  be  consumed  in  1  month  and  not  more  than  that.  
 
 Vijay,  the  avatar  picture  is  downloaded  from  internet  and  its  not  mine.  As  per  my  knowledge  it  is  yellow  sunshine  discus.  And  i  guess  this  strain  is  becoming  available  in  india,  not  so  common  though.  To  increase  yellow  pigment  from  yellowish  discus  it  is  said  to  use  spinach  in  the  feed.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi,
 
 I  started  keeping  Discus  exactly  a  month  back  with  2  Blue  Diamond  Discus  and  then  immediately  the  next  couple  of  days  added  4  more  blue  diamond  discus.  6  in  total.  My  tanks  is  90  gallons,  5  footer  and  heavily  planted.  Not  much  bio  load,  another  6  Denisonii  barbs.  .                

 
 Hi  Vijoy,
 
 It's  advisable  keep  slow  moving  fish  with  Discus.  Denisonii  barbs  is  a  fast  moving  fish  though  they  looks  nice.  But  if  priority  is  Discus  it's  better  to  not  to  keep  with  Discus.
 
 From  my  personal  exp.
 
 good  luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 @coldfear39  Go  for  it  as  I  had  a  big  5  footer  in  Kolkata  back  in  1997  and  after  that  I  moved  to  Bangalore  for  my  education  and  never  got  a  chance  to  reignite  my  passion.
 I  have  never  kept  Discuss  though  but  few  of  my  friends  use  to  keep  and  I  was  more  into  Goldfishes,Angels,  Sharks..
 
 @VijayKgoa  how  you  are  keeping  your  heavily  planted  5  footer  clean?  wht  is  the  water  change  schedule?  which  filters  you  are  using?  Can  you  share  few  pics  of  yours  beauty?  loved  to  see  some  planted  tanks  with  Discus.
 Can  you  PM  me  the  costs  of  the  entire  tank  setup?
 
 I  am  planning  to  make  one  5  footer  with  Discus  and  most  probabaly  with  plants  (5ft  x  1.5ft  or  2ft  x  1.5ft)  
 
 How  many  Max  Discus  one  can  keep  if  the  tank  is  heavily  planted?
 and  how  many  if  the  tank  is  moderately  planted?  
 
 Guys  one  thing  is  for  sure  I  read  almost  all  the  forum  topics  on  Discus  and  can  proudly  say  that  I  am  kind  of  prepared  to  keep  a  tank  with  Discus  and  IAH  and  the  memebers  are  awesome  in  help  and  knowledge...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Hi  Amazonian2010,
 
 Join  with  our  IAH  Discus  Team.....surely  u  will  get  all  type  of  helps  from  the  Master's........  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 Thanks  Abhi...I  am  completely  into  this  IAH  forum  ...I  have  dream  of  keeping  a  big  Discus  tank  (  may  be  like  your's)...I  have  placed  many  aquatic  and  Fish  related  questions  in  the  different  forums  (  mostly  for  my  friends)  and  got  awesome  and  practical  suggestions..
 
 I  believe  reading  each  and  every  post  here  provide  enough  information  for  almost  all  subjects  and  good  or  bad  a  people  can  face
 
 Thanks  again.
 
 Raj  here.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Novice Reply with quote

 i  have  kept  lots  of  fishes  in  my  aquarium  hobby,except  the  king  himself  -  discuss..
 right  now  i  am  not  in  my  hometown  and  that's  why  i  cant  keep  them  as  they  require  a  lot  of  care..
 but  yes,when  i  make  my  own  fish  room,i  would  be  having  a  discuss  only  planted  tank..my  dream  in  fact..
 having  said  that,i  personally  think  that  they  absolutely  deserve  their  reputation  of  being  called  the  king..
 since  i  am  not  into  discuss  keeping  now,i  do  not  have  much  idea  about  them..but  yes,when  i  would  be  keeping  them,i  ll  make  sure  that  they  are  happy  in  my  tank   Very Happy
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