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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: South East Asian Blackwater setup:: Photographs Page 2. Reply with quote

 Guys  want  to  setup  a  Black  Water  setup.  Suggestions  are  most  welcome.
 
 Tank  Size:  45  X  30  X  30  cm.
 
 Please  clear  some  doubts.
 
 1.  Which  locally  available  leaves  can  I  used  to  turn  water  black?  In  an  old  topic  read  about  jackfruit  leaves.  Jackfruit  tree  is  available  in  my  school  premises.  From  where  can  I  get  almond  leaves?
 
 2.  I  want  to  keep  only  Neon  Tetras.  Please  suggest  another  fish/invertebrates  with  these?
 
 3.  How  much  light  will  be  sufficient?
 
 4.  Can  I  grow  any  plants  from  Neon  tetra  biotype?  What  about  water  lettuce?
 
 5.  Which  material  should  I  use  as  background?  Simple  black  paper  or  rocks.
 
 6.  I  have  a  very  beautiful  branch  of  LEMON  tree.  I  want  to  use  it  in  this  aquarium.  Lemon  wood  is  aquarium  compatible  and  I  used  it  successfully.  But  its  color  is  white.  How  can  I  turn  it  in  black  color?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

                                                   
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From  where  can  I  get  almond  leaves?                

 Indian  Almond  Tree
 Guess  now  you  will  remember  the  spot  where  to  collect  almond  leaves.  Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

 What  you  have  started  smoking  now  a  days?????  Last  Sunday  you  said,  you  are  going  for  a  reef  tank  and  now  asking  abt  Rio  Negro!!
 
 Anyway,  there  is  nothing  you  have  to  do  much  in  this  setup.  Drop  drift  woods  as  many  as  you  can  find.  Make  sure  they  are  dark  colored.  Use  dark  color  sand  as  substrate.  Drop  some  dried  Jackfruit  leaves  in  the  tank.  Add  some  drops  of  Peat  extract  in  water  (Sera/Azoo/Aquael).  If  you  want,  you  can  keep  some  small  sized  rocks  in  the  tank.  Release  the  Neons/apistos/rummynose.  Keep  the  light  as  low  as  possible.
 
 Make  sure  to  have  a  good  filtration  and  flow  in  the  tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

                                                   
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What  you  have  started  smoking  now  a  days?????  Last  Sunday  you  said,  you  are  going  for  a  reef  tank  and  now  asking  abt  Rio  Negro!!
 
 Anyway,  there  is  nothing  you  have  to  do  much  in  this  setup.  Drop  drift  woods  as  many  as  you  can  find.  Make  sure  they  are  dark  colored.  Use  dark  color  sand  as  substrate.  Drop  some  dried  Jackfruit  leaves  in  the  tank.  Add  some  drops  of  Peat  extract  in  water  (Sera/Azoo/Aquael).  If  you  want,  you  can  keep  some  small  sized  rocks  in  the  tank.  Release  the  Neons/apistos/rummynose.  Keep  the  light  as  low  as  possible.
 
 Make  sure  to  have  a  good  filtration  and  flow  in  the  tank.                

 
 I  have  a  empty  tank  for  blackwater  setup.  I  want  something  new  so  decided  for  a  reef  and  blackwater  tank.  
 
 Reef  tank  will  be  establish  after  new  tank  of  Ashok  Yadav.  I  will  take  some  live  stock  from  him.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

 Hi  Rajiv!
 
 Nice  to  hear  that  as  I  got  company!  I  am  in  the  process  of  setting  up  a  black  water  setup,  though  not  absolutely  Rio  Nigro  biotope.  
 
 Planning  to  keep  some  ferns.  Not  sure  about  that  lives  there  in  that  biotope  though.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Rajiv!
 
 Nice  to  hear  that  as  I  got  company!  I  am  in  the  process  of  setting  up  a  black  water  setup,  though  not  absolutely  Rio  Nigro  biotope.  
 
 Planning  to  keep  some  ferns.  Not  sure  about  that  lives  there  in  that  biotope  though.                

 
 I  will  keep  Neons  in  this  setup.  I  will  setup  this  on  Sunday  with  Jackfruit  leaves  and  woods.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

 I  plan  to  keep  cardinals,  rummy  noses,  some  dwarf  cories  and  hatchets.  Not  yet  started  to  buy,  the  tank  is  cycling  with  some  tiger  barbs.  
 
 Have  to  pick  up  the  leaching  wood  from  somebody,  planning  to  add  almond  leaves,  I  also  heard  dried  banana  leaves  also  do  the  job  well.
 
 How  big  will  be  your  tank,  mine  is  a  25  G  only.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

 Dear  Rajiv,
 If  u  ever  need  almond  leaves  let  me  know.  I  do  come  to  delhi  app.  once  in  30  -  45  days  and  can  always  bring  the  same  for  you.  Whenever  i  come  here  i  stay  at  def  col.  By  the  way  i  have  seen  almond  leaves  at  Rajinder  florists  at  def  col  though  very  rarely.  They  get  the  stems  when  they  are  in  blossom  during  late  winter.
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 Dear  Rajiv,
 The  only  problem  with  Black  water  setup  in  your  aquarium  size  is  maintaining  the  PH.  As  with  every  water  change  the  PH  could  swing  a  lot.  Leaching  will  take  time  and  so  also  get  some  plan  in  place  for  your  water  change.
 
 I  did  use  some  cocunut  shalls  for  release  of  tanins,  these  are  another  option  you  can  try.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

 If  you  need  only  tannis  then  use  tea  leaves/powder  in  socks.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Black water setup:: Need advice. Reply with quote

 @saikumar  -  Have  you  really  tried  that  in  a  tank?
 
 @Rajiv  -  I  have  used  jackfruit  tree  leaves.  It  does  tend  to  keep  ph  at  lower  levels,  but  didnt  have  much  of  any  change  in  coloration.  Try  and  get  a  good  source  for  almond  leaves.
 
 And  maintaining  ph  might  be  a  problem.  Make  sure  you  have  hold  on  that  before  you  introduce  fishes  (Maybe  after  3-4weeks,  so  that  you  have  time  to  monitor  changes  during  a  week  and  also  change  in  params  during  water  change).
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 You  could  try  Black  Water  Extract
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 If  you  are  not  going  to  keep  Wild  cought  tetras  then  you  don't  have  to  pay  much  attention  to  Lower  pH.  For  the  coloration  you  can  use  readymade  Peat  Extract/Black  Water  extract  or  I  think  those  leaf  litters  will  be  enough  to  add  some  tanin.
 
 
 @Sai....  we  should  not  use  Tea  leaf  extract  in  aquariums  randomly.  Once  I  heard  from  a  cardinal  breeder,  a  single  drop  of  Tea  leaf  extract  can  make  a  havoc  to  the  electro  conductivity  of  the  tank  water.  Don't  ask  me  in  details,  I  don't  know  anything  else.
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@saikumar  -  Have  you  really  tried  that  in  a  tank?
 
                 

 Yes  dear,  in  my  4ft  Smile  
 
 
 
                                                 
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 @Sai....  we  should  not  use  Tea  leaf  extract  in  aquariums  randomly.  Once  I  heard  from  a  cardinal  breeder,  a  single  drop  of  Tea  leaf  extract  can  make  a  havoc  to  the  electro  conductivity  of  the  tank  water.  Don't  ask  me  in  details,  I  don't  know  anything  else.
                 

 Tirtha,  
 That  water  would  have  been  poor  buffer  then,  also  depending  on  extract  conc.  If  its  just  for  colouration,  then  should  be  cheapest  way.  But  true,  for   everything  should  be  taken  care.
 http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99571.htm
 
 Or  else  everytime  we  drank  little  tea  after  Biryani...  something  odd  should  have  happened.  Chuckle  
 
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 When  u  getting  the  neons  and  from  where  remember  i  told  i  also  need  that  it  appears  few  other  frdns  are  intrested  so  need  about  40-  60pairs
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