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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: What is the commercial name for erthromycin Reply with quote

 I  am  having  blue  green  algae  problem  in  my  new  planted  tank.  Inspite  of  vaccuming  them  off  and  repeated  water  changes,  it  seems  to  be  coming  back.  In  the  net  I  found  that  erthromycin  is  an  effective  way  to  fight  this  battle..  which  will  be  my  last  option.  Anybody  knows  what  is  the  commercial  name  of  this  medicine  ???
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I  am  having  blue  green  algae  problem  in  my  new  planted  tank.  Inspite  of  vaccuming  them  off  and  repeated  water  changes,  it  seems  to  be  coming  back.  In  the  net  I  found  that  erthromycin  is  an  effective  way  to  fight  this  battle..  which  will  be  my  last  option.  Anybody  knows  what  is  the  commercial  name  of  this  medicine  ???                

 
 Ask  for  althrocin  at  any  chemist's  shop  -  it  is  an  anti-biotic  used  for  throat  infections.
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 An  antibiotic  in  your  tank  will  also  kill  all  beneficial  bacteria.  So  weigh  pro  &  cons  before  using  it.
 You  can  use  following  link
 http://fins.actwin.com/aquariafaq.html
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sandeepraghuvanshi  wrote:                
An  antibiotic  in  your  tank  will  also  kill  all  beneficial  bacteria.  So  weigh  pro  &  cons  before  using  it.
 You  can  use  following  link
 http://fins.actwin.com/aquariafaq.html                

 
 I  also  will  not  do  it  myself  for  my  tanks!  Sad
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 Hi  All,
 Thanks  for  your  reply.  I  acquired  althrocin  500  mg.  Did  gravel  vacuuming  to  suck  up  the  BGA  as  much  as  possible.  Applied  2  tablets  powdered  in  my  approximate  400  ltr  tank.  Next  day  another  2  tablets  went  in  the  tank.  Next  day  all  remaining  bits  of  blue  green  algae  was  brown  and  disintegrating.  Did  a  water  change  and  sucked  up  the  brown  masses  as  much  as  possible.  Added  2  more  tablets  in  the  water.  The  tank  is  going  on  now  all  through  the  week.  No  mortality.  The  spawns  of  rosy  barbs  are  fine.  Planning  to  do  a  30%  water  change  this  weekend.  Ammonia  and  nitrite  was  not  noticeable  during  the  medication  period.  What  I  have  read  from  the  net  is  that  there  is  a  +ve  strains  and  -ve  strains  of  bacteria.  The  althrocin  works  on  only  one  of  the  strain(the  BBA  is  in  this  strain).  The  nitro  bacters  are  from  the  opposite  strain  and  it  doesn't  get  much  affected  with  this  medication.  As  of  now  all  is  well  and  the  plants  look  nice  and  healthy.
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 But,  don't  you  feel  there  are  better  ways  of  dealing  with  the  algae?
 Why  was  erythromicin  the  only  option?


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 The  other  option  was  gravel  vacumming..  I  have  tried  for  couple  of  days..  but  even    if  a  single  smal  bit  is  left..  it  keeps  coming  over.  Quiet  tedious  and  removing  it  from  the  entanglement  of  the  roots  of  java  fern  and  moss  was  just  not  possible.  Now  with  the  medication,  the  BGA  disintegrated  and  is  very  easy  to  suck  it  out  with  a  siphon.    Today  I  did  a  50  %  water  change  and  will  see  if    it  comes  back  over  again.
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aquascapes  wrote:                
ROFL  and  I  thought  You  wanted  to  treat  the  fish!
 But,  don't  you  feel  there  are  better  ways  of  dealing  with  the  algae?
 Why  was  erythromicin  the  only  option?                

 
 Yes  Erythromycin  is  really  the  only  option  for  this  problem,Also  it  works  very  well,  has  no  effect  on  the  nitrobacters  (because  they  are    gram  negative  rods)  whereas  erythromycin  is  effective  only  against  Gram  positive  bacteria  and  organisms  such  as  BGA(cyanobacter)  which  are  gram  positive  and  have  characterestics  of  both  plants  (photosynthesis)  and  bacteria.
 Gram  positive  organisms  take  up  100  times  more  erythromycin  then  gram  negative  organisms  so  the  dose  that  is  fatal  for  BGA  doesnt  effect  the  nitrobacters.
 This  is  a  good  link:  http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/654antibiotic.html
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 I  agree  with  you  guys,
 I  tried  this  and  have  very  good  results  even  with  the  hair  algae!
 thanks!
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The  other  option  was  gravel  vacumming..  I  have  tried  for  couple  of  days..  but  even  Â if  a  single  smal  bit  is  left..  it  keeps  coming  over.  Quiet  tedious  and  removing  it  from  the  entanglement  of  the  roots  of  java  fern  and  moss  was  just  not  possible.  Now  with  the  medication,  the  BGA  disintegrated  and  is  very  easy  to  suck  it  out  with  a  siphon.  Â Today  I  did  a  50  %  water  change  and  will  see  if  Â it  comes  back  over  again.                

 
 Could  you  please  let  us  know  if  you  come  across  BGA  after  this  treatment.  I  want  to  treat  my  tank  in  the  same  way.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:54 am Post subject: Re: What is the commercial name for erthromycin Reply with quote

 What  is  the  dose  of  erythromycin  ?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: Re: What is the commercial name for erthromycin Reply with quote

 For  BGA  the  dose  is  2.5  mg  per  litre.  The  commonly  available  preparations  of  Erythromycin  are  usually  tablets  of  500  mg.  Powders  for  suspension  contain  125  mg  /  5ml  after  reconstitution  with  water.  Syrups  Â are  not  advisable  as  they  contain  more  stabilizers  and  preservatives,  flavouring  agents,  etc.
 Treat  for  6  days  with  30%  WC  on  3rd  and  6th  day.  Monitor  for  nitrites  in  case  your  nitrobacter  take  a  slight  hit.  May  not  happen  though,  as  E-Mycin  has  very  little  effect  on  them.
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 thanks  for  the  info
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 My  take  on  the  use  of  Emycin.
 
 Antibiotics  are  effective  against  most  BGA.  Emycin  is  an  antibiotic  active  against  a  large  range  of  gram  positive  bacteria  and  BGA.  Activity  against  gram  negative  bacteria  is  lesser.  It  will  get  rid  of  your  BGA.  Probably  with  little  noticable  impact  on  your  aquarium.
 
 It  would  be  naive  to  think  that  nitrobacter  is  the  only  bacteria  important  in  an  aquarium.  Maybe  there  are  hundreds  of  others  many  of  them  might  very  well  be  gram  positives.  I  supect  that  the  term  Nitrobacter  is  a  catch-all  term  including  many  species  of  bacteria  with  similar  metabolic  paths.
 
 The  likely  reason  why  your  aquarium  might  escape  visible  effects  is  that  Nitrobacter  might  be  the  most  important  and  it  escapes  the  effects  of  Emycin.
 
 On  the  other  hand...
 
 Emycin  is  not  the  lasting  cure  for  BGA.  The  actual  solution  should  be  to  shift  the  balance  against  them.  BGA  are  all  over  the  place  not  just  in  your  aquarium.  Once  the  Emycin  is  gone  BGA  will  be  back  if  the  conditions  suit  them.
 
 The  question  then  is  that  if  Emycin  is  such  benign  stuff  why  not  just  forget  about  fiddling  with  nitrates,  nitrites,  phosphates,  light  etc  and  just  continue  dosing  Emycin  everyday  of  the  year  and  be  done  with  this  BGA  for  good?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: What is the commercial name for erthromycin Reply with quote

 Hi  Deepesh,  As  you  rightly  point  out  there  are  many  G+organisms  in  there  as  well,  which  might  very  well  be  affected  by  E-Mycin.  And  as  you  also  pointed  out,  they  have  little  effect  on  the  nitrification  process  so  it  is  immaterial  whether  E-Mycin  affects  them  or  not.
 Secondly  if  one  were  to  regularly  dose  a  tank  with  any  antibiotic  sooner  or  later  resistent  strains  will  emerge.  This  might  create  an  even  bigger  problem,  for  the  aquarist  himself.  The  continued  presence  of  any  chemical  in  the  tank  might  also  cause  chronic  problems  for  the  fish  themselves.  So  if  you  have  BGA,  and  it  is  heavy  enough  to  be  unsightly,  use  E-mycin  to  get  rid  of  it  definitively  and  then  try  to  maintain  an  ideal  tank  where  BGA  never  occurs(  unlikely).  Smile  
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