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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 Hi
 
 I  cant  afford  a  good  canister  filter  hence  DIY...And  also  because  it  works  on  a  simple  mechanism  
 Here  is  a  cartoon  diagram  made  in  paint:
 
 
 Some  point:
 1.I  dont  want  to  use  a  PVC  pipe  where  the  are  ton  of  things  to  do..(especially  leakage).  I  will  use  an  air  tight  jar  instead
 2.  Media  will  be  aquarium  sponge(same  thing  as  used  in  sponge  filters)  and  gravels   
 3.  planned  canister  is  going  to  be  10-12  inches  tall  and  5  inches  in  diameter(appox)  
 4.  Tank  size  for  which  I  will  use  the  filter  30  l  X  18  w  X  15  h(~45  US  gal)   
 
 Now  my  questions  are:
 1)  Is  this  plan  correct?  Will  it  work?  All  suggestions  are  welcomed
 2)  Which  pump  will  be  suitable  for  this  and  any  specific  good  brand  you  recommend?
 3)  Any  other  media?
 4)  What  glue/adhesive  to  use?  any  other  option  that  araldite?  
 5)  What  pipes  to  use  for  inlet  and  outlet?  Air  supply  pipes  will  be  too  small  I  guess  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 Looks  promising.  How  bout  making  tiny  holes  on  top  insteed  of  syphon  water  supply.  
 Just  curious
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Looks  promising.  How  bout  making  tiny  holes  on  top  insteed  of  syphon  water  supply.  
 Just  curious                

 I  didnt  get  you?  how  will  those  tiny  holes  help?  
 The  siphon  is  going  to  be  the  to  start  water  supple  instead  of  pulling  in  water  with  my  mouth(disgusting)!   After  the  water  begins  to  flow,  the  siphon  is  useless
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 Should  work  properly  provided  you  seal  all  the  joints  well!  
 If  you  use  a  longish  container,  you  can  DIY  it  so  that  you  can  keep  it  on  the  top  of  the  tank  itself,  like  a  top  filter.  
 I  would  suggest  you  use  a  PVC  pipe  with  end  caps.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 ok  that  filter  will  be  out  of  water.  Istill  think  it  needs  more  water  supply.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 have  you  calculated  the  out  flow  and  how  you  intend  to  control  it?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

                                                   
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Should  work  properly  provided  you  seal  all  the  joints  well!  
 If  you  use  a  longish  container,  you  can  DIY  it  so  that  you  can  keep  it  on  the  top  of  the  tank  itself,  like  a  top  filter.  
 I  would  suggest  you  use  a  PVC  pipe  with  end  caps.                

 I  dont  have  place  to  keep  it  above  the  tank  
 I  dont  like  PVC  pipes...jar  is  more  convinient  for  me   
 
 
                                                 
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 ok  that  filter  will  be  out  of  water.  Istill  think  it  needs  more  water  supply.
                 

 Any  suggestions  to  increase  the  water  supply?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

                                                   
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have  you  calculated  the  out  flow  and  how  you  intend  to  control  it?                

 No...can  you  elaborate  please?  I  have  never  used  an  external  filter  before  so.......  Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 ok  what  i  meant  was  since  your  using  a  siphon  &  gravity  to  do  your  work  for  the  intake,  you  will  need  a  check  point  to  make  sure  that  you  dont  flood  your  canister.  if  your  gonna  use  the  speed  of  the  water  that  reaches  the  canister,  you  need  a  pump  equally  fast  but  this  i  forsee  as  a  pain  in  the  rearend  cos  you  might  create  to  much  of  a  circulating  current.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 What  container  do  you  intend  to  use?
 
 I  guess  if  you  keep  the  inlet  on  the  bottom  and  the  outlet   on  the  top,  it  would  be  more  efficient.
 I  cant  say  why  exactly,  but  i  have  a  gut  feeling,  and  this  is  what  i  did  with  mine.  Chuckle
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ok  what  i  meant  was  since  your  using  a  siphon  &  gravity  to  do  your  work  for  the  intake,  you  will  need  a  check  point  to  make  sure  that  you  dont  flood  your  canister.  if  your  gonna  use  the  speed  of  the  water  that  reaches  the  canister,  you  need  a  pump  equally  fast  but  this  i  forsee  as  a  pain  in  the  rearend  cos  you  might  create  to  much  of  a  circulating  current.                

 Will  flooding  the  filter  really  create  a  problem?  Ir  the  container  is  airtight...will  it  really  matter?  
 Ok  the  water  will  take  its  own  sweet  time  to  circulate  ...but  the  water  filteration  should  be  good  
 
 Can  some  one  tell  me  what  pump  should  i  ask  for  to  the  shop(of  what  power/flow  rate)  
 
    
                                                 
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 What  container  do  you  intend  to  use?
 
 I  guess  if  you  keep  the  inlet  on  the  bottom  and  the  outlet   on  the  top,  it  would  be  more  efficient.
 I  cant  say  why  exactly,  but  i  have  a  gut  feeling,  and  this  is  what  i  did  with  mine.  Chuckle
                 

 As  I  said  it  will  be  a  jar  like  THIS  but  a  translucent  one  
 If  i  keep  inlet  on  the  bottom  and  the  outlet  on  the  top...I  will  require  a  very  very  strong  pump
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 personally,  i  wouldnt  allow  it  to  flood.  pressure  buildup  can  become  a  problem.
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 Why  would  you  need  a  stronger  pump?
 I  guess  you  are  using  a  cooler  pump  from  the  H/W  store.  These  pumps  don't  have  a  liter/hr  rating.  Instead  they  have  height,  i.e.  the  height  you  want  the  water  to  rise.  This  would  depend  on  where  you  keep  the  canister,  not  where  you  place  the  pump.  Also  suppose  ,  if  your  height  comes  to  be  1.5  meter,  get  a  pump  with  more  than  2meter  capacity.  Thats  how  you  can  get  flow  required  for  the  filter.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: DIY canister filter - Will this work Reply with quote

 Samir,
 
 I  would  suggest  you  to  not  make  hole  in  the  lid,  as  it  ll  get  difficult  to  make  lea  proof.  Instead  check  this  design,  hole  on  two  sides.  It  worKs....simply
 
 Just  get  hold  of  a  thicK  rimmed  bottle.
 4mm  Rubber  sheet  cut  to  shape.
 
 
 The  thing
 
 
 
 Pump-  ask  for  water-cooler  pumps.  But  depends  what  volume  of  your  tank  is.  You  ll  get  from  600l/h  onwards.  Just  see  you  have  enough  space  of  filter  media  after  adding  the  pump  in.
 
 Good  luck.
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 The  thing
 
 
 
 Good  luck.                

 
 Is  the  silver  thing  the  pump??  Surprised  
 Looks  like  a  DC  motor  to  me  Chuckle
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